Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more. Intro / Outro music on the AB Testing podcast is The One by Rivet. License: CC BY Intro / Outro music on ABT343 is from https://filmmusic.io “Werq” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
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Host Alan and co-host Brent welcome Lana for a wide-ranging conversation about AI-assisted testing, agent delegation, and how teams can adapt as work changes. Lana shares her experience building a mobile automation tool and testing accessibility on real devices, while Alan and Brent explore accountability, AI risks, and the principles behind Alan’s upcoming book.
48 min
In this episode, Alan and Bridges Smith from SmartBear explore how AI is transforming software testing and quality assurance. They discuss the evolving roles of developers and testers, the potential of AI agents, and strategies for maintaining quality in a fast-paced development environment.
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In this episode, Jason Arbon shares insights on AI's impact on software testing, development workflows, and the future of AI systems. We explore how AI is transforming industries, the concept of confidence in AI, and the philosophical questions around AI consciousness.
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1 hr 2 min
Host Alan and co-host Brent welcome Lana for a wide-ranging conversation about AI-assisted testing, agent delegation, and how teams can adapt as work changes. Lana shares her experience building a mobile automation tool and testing accessibility on real devices, while Alan and Brent explore accountability, AI risks, and the principles behind Alan’s upcoming book.
48 min
In this episode, Alan and Bridges Smith from SmartBear explore how AI is transforming software testing and quality assurance. They discuss the evolving roles of developers and testers, the potential of AI agents, and strategies for maintaining quality in a fast-paced development environment.
1 hr 1 min
In this episode, Jason Arbon shares insights on AI's impact on software testing, development workflows, and the future of AI systems. We explore how AI is transforming industries, the concept of confidence in AI, and the philosophical questions around AI consciousness.
53 min
In this episode, Alan and Brent explore the evolving landscape of AI, confidence engineering, and the future of software testing. They discuss how AI impacts decision-making, testing practices, and the importance of clear principles in a rapidly changing tech environment.
1 hr 3 min
In this episode, Lana Begunova and Alan explore the intricacies of the human brain, creativity, AI, and innovation, sharing personal stories and insights into their mental processes and projects.
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In this episode, Alan and Brent discuss the challenges and strategies of modern software testing, deployment, and organizational culture. They share insights on continuous deployment, environment management, AI's role in testing, and building trust within teams.
51 min
In this episode, Alan and Molly explore the evolving landscape of software development, AI's role in coding, systems thinking, and the future of tech education. They share personal stories, industry insights, and practical advice for navigating a rapidly changing tech world.
48 min
In this episode, Alan and Brent explore the rapid evolution of AI, the implications of Jaevon's paradox, and how organizations can adapt to the changing technological landscape. They discuss the future roles of developers, the importance of critical thinking in education, and the ongoing shifts in the software industry.
52 min
In this episode, Alan and Aditya discuss the complexities of mobile testing, the impact of AI on software development, and how to adapt testing strategies for rapid development cycles. They explore challenges like device fragmentation, AI-driven automation, and future trends in mobile delivery.
48 min
In this episode, Alan and Colette explore the importance of empathy, self-awareness, and human skills in tech leadership, especially in the context of AI's rise. They share personal stories, practical strategies, and insights on developing emotional intelligence to foster better team dynamics and decision-making.
49 min
In this insightful interview, Prince Kohli, CEO of Sauce Labs, discusses the transformative impact of AI on software testing. Topics include how AI accelerates test creation, enhances stability, and reshapes roles in development and testing teams.
51 min
In this episode, Spy and a special guest explore the evolving landscape of software engineering, emphasizing the shift towards postmodern engineering principles that acknowledge the role of AI, organizational interaction, and probabilistic systems. They discuss how traditional concepts are becoming obsolete and propose a new framework for trustworthy, adaptive socio-technical systems.
54 min
In this insightful interview, Kat Obring discusses the evolving role of AI in testing and quality assurance, emphasizing good decision-making, automation, and the future of team collaboration. The conversation explores practical AI applications, decision frameworks, and how testers can stay relevant in a fast-changing landscape. More from Kat https://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaobring/https://kato-coaching.com/
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In this engaging interview, Chris Armstrong from SmartBear discusses the evolving role of testing in the age of AI, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, system thinking, and responsible AI integration to ensure quality and trust in software development.https://smartbear.com/ai-software-quality-gap-report/https://smartbear.com/blog/levels-of-autonomy-in-software-development-closing-the-gap-between-creation-and-confidence/
52 min
Shachin Agarwal and Pulkit Agarwal join Alan for a discussion on AI in testing. https://evertest.ai
55 min
In this engaging interview, Elisabeth Hendrickson shares her journey through the tech industry, her insights on systems thinking, and the principles behind her upcoming book 'Signals and Levers.' Discover how her experiences shape modern approaches to quality, leadership, and software delivery. Elisabeth's book: https://signalsandlevers.com/Elisabeth's linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed/The Curious Duck website: https://curiousduck.io/
57 min
In this replay of episode 103, we are joined by Jason Huggins, the creator of Selenium, to discuss the true intent of the tool and why the industry has developed what Alan calls a 'tragic sickness' and an 'unhealthy infatuation' with UI automation. Driven by his belief that hand-crafted UI tests are an inefficient 'money pit' and a 'maintenance nightmare,' Alan challenges the traditional reliance on Selenium and advocates for developers owning automation to ensure better code design. Together with Huggins, we explore the history of the 'mercury monster' and the 'Steel Cage Match' while looking toward a future where robotics, AI-assisted record-and-playback, and data-driven experimentation replace brittle, legacy scripts
54 min
Summary In this episode of the AB Testing Podcast, host Spy welcomes back Walmyr, a seasoned QA engineer and educator, to discuss his journey in quality assurance, the importance of quality culture in software development, and the transition to agile environments. Walmyr shares insights on his experiences with test automation, the significance of effective test design, and the challenges of navigating job changes and company culture. The conversation also touches on personal growth, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and the impact of remote work on team dynamics. Walmyr emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and knowledge sharing in the tech industry, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone interested in quality assurance and software development. More on Walmyr here: https://walmyr.dev/
58 min
In this episode of the A-B Testing Podcast, Spy, Walmyr, and Global Warming reflect on the past year, discussing their favorite books, podcasts, and entertainment from 2025. They delve into the importance of code review and refactoring in the age of AI, share personal finance strategies, and explore the evolving landscape of remote work. The conversation also touches on predictions for 2026, including the impact of AI on job markets and the future of work dynamics.
55 min
Lina joins Spy this week to talk about metrics, her upcoming book, and a bit about AI (with a whole lot of ranting). More from Lina on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/
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Spy is joined by Globalworming, and we talk about quality as a system, PCT hike statistics, and narrative fiction.
45 min
Brent is still on hiatus, so Spy-Friend Timm Gleason joins the podcast this week to talk about stuff - but especially Spy's rant's on project management.
59 min
Back after a long hiatus - or half back. No Brent this week, but Andreas Worm and Danny Faught listen while I tell trail stories
48 min
We take on a mailbag question, and then talk a bit about the upcoming AB Testing hiatus as Alan prepares for a very long walk in the woods.
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We ramble a bit...but then get somewhere interesting. Worth a listen.
42 min
Alan gives Brent some advice on engaging remote workers, and Alan shares some bigly news.
41 min
We take a mailbag question - and talk about other stuff.
48 min
More ranting and discussions (and sometimes, some insights) from Brent and Alan.
42 min
It's been a while, but we're back to disagree about measuring developer productivity, and then talk about the doom and rebirth coming from AI.
54 min
Usual end of year episode where we reflect on 2024, and look forward to 2025.
45 min
Once again, we ramble on topics we didn't plan on talking about.
43 min
Welp - Alan asked Brent how it was going, he said it was review season, and then 40 minutes of babbling commenced
53 min
We're lazy, so we let chatgpt kick us off with a mailbag question. Tangents followed.
58 min
It's hard to tell what we talked about in this episode. But it involved a sleep-deprived Alan, and Brent, the Cat-Lady.
55 min
The wonderful Dagna Bieda joins us to talk about her new book, Brain Refactor. Buy the book at https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Refactor-Engineering-Fulfillment-Opportunities/dp/B0DB69G798/ and learn more about Dagna at https://www.themindfuldev.com/
47 min
We talk about this article - https://stackoverflow.blog/2024/06/10/generative-ai-is-not-going-to-build-your-engineering-team-for-you/ - which is good, but hyperbolic at times.
48 min
Just like millions of others, we feel the need to talk about crowdstrike - just a bit. Then we talk about leadership, engagement, and potential new podcasting ventures.
42 min
It's another episode of the AI Testing Podcast, where we discuss the advancements of AI, parallels to nuclear war, and what humans will do in the future. Links - OpenAI reportedly nears breakthrough with “reasoning” AI, reveals progress framework The Day After
49 min
We talk about a lot of stuff - because that's what we do. Somewhere in there, we talk about the overlap between the ways of devops and MT, and Brent threatens to rewrite the first principle.
50 min
We talk about "Podcast Alan", and a bit about Alan's day job. Once again, going with the minimal editing approach.
50 min
It's been a long break. Again. But there are reasons. This time, we take a mailbag question and talk about the challenges of organizational change.
44 min
In the aftermath of the episode 200 extravaganza, we talk about Fallout (the show), and take a mailbag question that evolves into yet more discussions on AI.
1 hr 5 min
We recorded this episode live - sort of. We have guests. We have fun. We get bobbleheads. We talk about AI. It's EVERYTHING you could ask for on our 200th episode AND 10th anniversary.
43 min
For the first time in ten years, Brent and Alan both listen to the very first episode of AB Testing (so you don't have to).
47 min
We talk about fiefdoms - but mostly we end up talking about the growth mindset.
49 min
Somewhere in the middle of a whole lot of tangents, we take a walk though James Whittaker's post on The Resurrection of Software Testing - https://medium.com/@docjamesw/the-resurrection-of-software-testing-634423cd8411
45 min
We had a great time with a wonderful guest. Big thanks to Kat Obring for hanging out with us. Sign up for Kat's newsletter here - https://katobring.podia.com/ You can find Kat on linkedin here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaobring/ And even more about Kat and her business here - https://kato-coaching.com/
39 min
We start with a bit of a retro of the last few episodes and once again head off into the weeds of AI.
35 min
It's the remainder of the interview with Jason. It gets fun, it gets weird, and it gets cool.
34 min
We spent a little extra time with Jason and talked A LOT about AI, testing in AI, and whether or not Alan or Brent will have a quality title some day.
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