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AdExchanger Talks is an advertising and marketing technology podcast from AdExchanger, the leading voice in ad tech. Listen in as AdExchanger's award-winning editorial team, led by Managing Editor Allison Schiff, interviews industry leaders and explores the issues and trends that matter to brand marketers, ad agencies, publishers, media companies and technology providers.

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Stop Buying Lemons, With SWYM.ai

45 min

DSPs only see a fraction of available ad supply, and SSPs have no idea which impressions actually drive results, says SWYM.ai CEO Ravi Patel. That's how buyers end up paying again and again for low-performing inventory. But it's time to break the cycle.

Intent Data Is A Gift, With Edible Brands

46 min

Gift shoppers wait until the last minute, but when they show up, they know exactly what they want. That's why Edible Arrangements shrinks its catalog on peak days, says Erica Randerson, chief digital officer at Edible Brands.

From Puppies To Programmatic To AI Agents

53 min

Nobody gets into media buying for the joy of reconciling reports or QA-ing a campaign. But trusting AI to do those things takes more than a promise to save time, says Kovva COO and Co-Founder Tanja Mimica.

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Stop Buying Lemons, With SWYM.ai

45 min

DSPs only see a fraction of available ad supply, and SSPs have no idea which impressions actually drive results, says SWYM.ai CEO Ravi Patel. That's how buyers end up paying again and again for low-performing inventory. But it's time to break the cycle.

Intent Data Is A Gift, With Edible Brands

46 min

Gift shoppers wait until the last minute, but when they show up, they know exactly what they want. That's why Edible Arrangements shrinks its catalog on peak days, says Erica Randerson, chief digital officer at Edible Brands.

From Puppies To Programmatic To AI Agents

53 min

Nobody gets into media buying for the joy of reconciling reports or QA-ing a campaign. But trusting AI to do those things takes more than a promise to save time, says Kovva COO and Co-Founder Tanja Mimica.

What Frogs And Socks Can Teach Us About AI Implementation

50 min

The biggest obstacle to AI transformation may not be disorganized data but the messy workflows around it, says Rebecca Sykes, a partner at The Brandtech Group, where she leads the emerging tech practice.

Making AI Pay Its Way, With Cloudflare

50 min

What if AI companies had to pay publishers every time they used their content? Cloudflare's Lara Cohen explains the new playbook for dealing with AI bots, from blocking them to billing them.

Value Over Volume, With NYT's Courtney Glaze

46 min

Most publishers add SSPs like insurance. More partners means more demand and more demand means more competition for every impression. But at The New York Times, every ad tech partner has to earn its place in the stack, says Courtney Glaze, its VP of revenue operations.

Creator Marketing Is Growing Up

58 min

Creator marketing and influencer relationships are a top priority for marketers, but both are still behind other digital channels when it to scale, proper reporting and transparency. That's starting to change, though, says Jennifer Quigley-Jones, the founder of Digital Voices and VP of strategy and partnerships at PMG.

Information Quality Is What Wins In The AI Era

53 min

In the AI era, according to Tim Frank, the man in charge of AI monetization at Microsoft, "information is the new bid." In other words, the brands that get recommended won't necessarily be the ones with the biggest ad budgets, he says, but rather those with the most clear, complete and transparent product data.

I've Tried Everything But AdTech Therapy

52 min

With AI eating everyone's traffic, publishers could use a sympathetic ear. AdTech Therapy's Jana Meron and Scott Messer talk through the sell side's biggest challenges and break down what Google avoiding an ad tech breakup means for media owners.

Programmatic Gets An Agentic Brain

58 min

Agentic AI just ran a CTV campaign end-to-end through a new, agent-driven buying workflow with far less manual optimization and a lot less waste. Butler/Till's Scott Ensign explains what that means for the future of programmatic.

Google's Mass Arbitration Problem

51 min

Thousands of advertisers are taking Google to arbitration over alleged ad overpayments. Attorney Ashley Keller of Keller Postman explains the legal strategy and what a positive outcome could mean for claimants.

Murder Your Thirst And Measure Everything

51 min

Liquid Death is all jokes and dark humor on the surface, but the canned water brand's chief media and digital commerce officer, Benoit Vatere, takes measurement deadly seriously. He's tackling one of the gnarliest problems in CPG: proving that media actually moves product off the shelves.

'Models Built For Me'

54 min

Chalice AI's COO and co-founder, Ali Manning, explains how the AI startup – don't call it a custom algorithm company – is helping brands like Bayer use advertiser-specific bidding models to drive real outcomes as opposed to poor proxies.

The Hardest KPI In Advertising

46 min

Marketing consumer products comes with plenty of challenges. But just try selling a political candidate in a hyper-polarized, 24-hour news environment, says Mark Jablonowski, CEO of DSPolitical, a political ad platform that caters to Democrats and progressive causes.

Forget The Shiny Objects And Focus On Fundamentals

48 min

Sharona Sankar-King, Havas Media's chief data and product officer, on why marketers should stop chasing shiny AI toys and get serious about the fundamentals, including truly understanding the customer and only collecting data that's "fit for purpose."

Convincing Cat Parents To Buy A $600 Litter Box

45 min

Most brands worry about competitors. Whisker is worried about complacency, says CMO Hew Loyd – specifically, the millions of cat owners who have decided that scooping an open box of poop in their home is just one of life's little chores.

Reckitt's Digital Reckoning

39 min

You wouldn't accept paying for a Big Mac and getting a single chicken nugget. But that's essentially what a lot of marketers are doing with their digital ad budgets, says Reckitt's Sameer Amin, on this week's episode of AdExchanger Talks recorded live in Cannes.

Reddit Is Training The Robots

30 min

Reddit is now one of the main data sources feeding LLMs and AI search. In this episode, recorded live in Cannes, COO Jen Wong talks data licensing deals, how people use Reddit to validate what they're about to buy and what it takes to stop bad actors from gaming its forums to sway AI results.

Rethinking Vitamin Marketing, With Barrière

50 min

Cleo Davis-Urman, CEO and co-founder of wearable vitamin brand Barrière, talks word-of-mouth, measurement, retail media and what it takes to build a new category around patches instead of pills.

California Regulatin'

41 min

Tom Kemp, executive director of CalPrivacy, unpacks the DELETE Act, his agency's enforcement priorities, the rules governing automated decision-making tech – and why ad tech should pay close attention to it all.

The Gwyneth Effect, Measured

46 min

You don't usually hear someone talk about peptide serums, CAC and customer lifetime value in the same breath. But that's a normal day for Alexa Raff, CMO of goop, the wellness and lifestyle brand co-founded and led by Gwyneth Paltrow.

Don't Take Customers At Face Value

50 min

Verizon Value President David "DK" Kim digs into the lingering stigma around prepaid wireless – and how reframing customers as "prepaid by need" versus "prepaid by choice" changes the way Verizon markets and measures its eight-brand portfolio of prepaid plans.

How 'Wrapped' Insights Become Audience Segments

50 min

How does Spotify translate quirky "Wrapped" labels, like "divorced dad hipster," into ad audiences? And is AI-generated content safe for brands? Spotify's Global Head of Ad Product Katie English weighs in.

Influencer Marketing Grows

50 min

Up If creators want brand dollars, they have to play by the rules of data-driven marketing and measurement, says Ryan Detert, CEO and co-founder of Publicis-owned influencer marketing platform Influential.

Zoom's Next Act

54 min

Zoom CMO Kim Storin has one of the rarer jobs in marketing: She's responsible for promoting and evolving a brand that's also become a verb.

Manscaped's Whole‑Body Media Strategy

1 hr 1 min

Behind the scenes with Manscaped CMO Marcelo Kertész on the brand's first Super Bowl spot – a musical ad starring singing hair balls (just watch it) – and how he's shifting Manscaped's marketing from performance-heavy DTC to a broader, brand-led strategy.

Ready, Set, Upfront

33 min

Amazon is gearing up for its third-ever upfront event next month in New York City – and programmatic is at the center of its pitch. "We're encouraging brands and agencies to consolidate into the Amazon DSP to drive better outcomes," says Sarah Iooss, head of agency partnerships at Amazon Ads.

AI Is The New Ad Space

50 min

AI isn't just a productivity tool, says Debra Aho Williamson, founder of Sonata Insights. It's a brand-new media environment that's reshaping how people decide what to buy and challenging marketers to completely rethink the funnel.

Betterment's 'Anti‑Marketing' Machine

44 min

Kim Rosenblum, CMO of investment app Betterment, unpacks her "anti‑marketing" playbook, which involves telling customers not to engage and shifting away from chasing cheap CAC to prioritizing lifetime value.

Who Needs 'Corrosive Intermediaries' Anyway?

46 min

The programmatic supply chain is "pretty flawed," says Danny Spears, COO of publisher alliance Ozone, and value is leaking away from digital media brands. But that doesn't mean they need to stand there and take it.

Why Scripps Is All In On Women's Sports

52 min

Scripps CRO Brian Norris explains why the broadcaster is leaning into women's and local sports – and how that shift is reshaping the media plan.

Sussing Out 'Performance TV'

37 min

Can connected TV really deliver performance – or is "performance TV" just a branding boost with extra data? Erin Firneno, SVP of business intelligence at Advertiser Perceptions, weighs in.

Perion Is So Over The AI Hype Cycle

52 min

Perion CEO Tal Jacobson is done with AI buzzwords. Instead, he's betting big on agents, outcomes and letting machines handle the messy parts of media buying.

Healthy Growth In The Age Of AI

48 min

Mary Beech, chief growth officer at health-and-wellness brand Thorne, shares how she's turning marketing into a growth engine amid AI-driven discovery and chatbots that get loose with the facts.

What Marketers Miss When Their Data Isn't Inclusive

46 min

Inclusive measurement is more than a nice-to-have, says Charlene Polite Corley, Nielsen's VP of inclusive insights. Because undercounting Black, Hispanic and intersectional audiences isn't just a measurement failure; it's a missed growth opportunity for brands.

From Avoiding Bad Ads To Demanding ROI

39 min

Ad verification used to be mostly about keeping brands away from the bad stuff. Now, verification providers have to prove that quality actually moves the needle, says Integral Ad Science CEO Lisa Utzschneider.

In Platforms We Trust?

48 min

The future of measurement is automated, but can marketers trust the black box? Kantar Chief Product Officer Ty Ahmad‑Taylor shares his take. Plus: Performance meets brand and measurement "at the speed of culture."

AI Won't Shop For You – Yet

51 min

AI is reshaping how we shop, but agents won't take over our carts just yet. LiveRamp CEO Scott Howe explains why the change will be gradual – and how chatbot ads (not just on ChatGPT) will change the online shopping experience. NOTE: A Perplexity spokesperson reached out to AdExchanger to deny the existence of an official partnership between LiveRamp and Perplexity or the existence of an alpha program set to launch this quarter that will test combining its behavior data with CRM data from advertisers. "Although we do enjoy speaking with and listening to leaders in every industry, there is not currently any partnership between Perplexity and LiveRamp," according to Jesse Dwyer, Perplexity's chief communication officer.

Sizing Up Success Metrics, With The CMO Of True Religion

52 min

True Religion CMO Kristen D'Arcy approaches marketing measurement the way you'd shop for jeans – by looking for the right fit. She's moved past last click, using real-time data to see what actually drives sales, and she isn't afraid to make fast changes when something isn't working.

Turning Snark Into Strategy, With The Onion

47 min

No brand safety? No problem. The Onion's CMO Leila Brillson shares how the iconic satire site is expanding beyond pithy headlines into documentaries and also helping other brands find their snark – all while staying far, far away from generative AI.

Channel Surfing The Future, With NBCU

56 min

NBCU's early embrace of ad tech – led by Ryan McConville, its chief product officer and EVP of ad platforms – set the stage for a pandemic-fueled digital transformation that blurred the line between traditional TV and streaming. But that doesn't mean linear isn't still a top priority.

The Brand Safety Balancing Act

53 min

As brand safety standards evolve and oversight shifts from platforms to third-party vendors, Brittany Scott, SVP of global partnerships at Zefr, explains what the rise of generative AI – and Meta's decision to step away from MRC brand safety audits – means for the future of media quality.

Breaking The Snap Stereotypes

58 min

Think you know Snapchat's audience? Think again, says Ajit Mohan, Snap's chief business officer. Mohan gets real and busts myths, including the idea that Snap is just for kids and its youngest users aren't big spenders.

AI That's Generative, Not Generic

52 min

Jay Richman, Amazon's VP of product and technology, on how AI-generated ad creative can still stand out at scale without becoming generic or too samey samey. Plus: The risks brands face if they wait too long to embrace AI.

Why The Economist Is An AI Outlier

50 min

The Economist is charting its own course in the age of AI, says Nada Arnot, the 182-year-old publication's EVP of marketing. It's steering clear of licensing deals and lawsuits and partnering with Claude on its own terms.

From Hype To Hyperscale In AI

58 min

AI hype is everywhere, but Moloco CEO Ikkjin Ahn says the real winners in ad tech will be those who can move beyond flashy demos and harness AI at true hyperscale.

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