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Robert McNeill and Stephanie Ganter

Between Two Teeth

A How To , Education and Self-Improvement podcast

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About the show

Between Two Teeth is life, health, surgery, law school, motorcycles, marriage, leadership, and midlife reinvention. Hosted by Dr. Bobby McNeill and Dr. Stephanie Ganter, two surgeons, part-time law students, and full-time adventurers, the show blends clinical perspective with honest conversations about trust, growth, failure, practice, purpose, and what happens when two doctors keep asking better questions. Still practicing. Still learning. Still riding. Still between two teeth. Follow us: Instagram: B2teeth,  YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/BetweenTwoTeeth https://b2teeth.com/

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Age Gap Reality Check: Who Has It Harder in Their 30s or 50s?

14 min

Bobby and Steph take on the age gap question from the road: who really has it harder, people in their 30s or people in their 50s? In this episode of Between Two Teeth, they talk marriage, career pressure, health, kids, law school, energy, wisdom, fear, reinvention, and the very real difference between building a life in your 30s and rebuilding or redefining one in your 50s. It is funny, honest, a little uncomfortable, and exactly the kind of conversation that happens when two overachieving dentists, law students, and motorcycle adventurers start comparing life stages through a helmet mic. #BetweenTwoTeeth #AgeGap #AgeGapRelationship #LifeInYour30s #LifeInYour50s #MarriagePodcast #RelationshipPodcast #DentistPodcast #DentalPodcast #OralSurgery #Periodontics #LawSchoolLife #NonTraditionalStudent #MidlifeReinvention #CareerGrowth #WorkLifeBalance #MotorcyclePodcast #DoctorLife #SecondAct #PersonalGrowth

Two Surgeons walk into a Law School. Roast edition.

18 min

Two dental specialists, medical degrees, dental degrees, multiple residencies, fellowships, an MBA, motorcycles, mountain climbs, and somehow Bobby and Steph decided the missing piece was law school. In this NotebookLM roast edition of Between Two Teeth, we ask the obvious question: how many degrees are enough before someone gently recommends a silent retreat? Bobby has wanted to go to law school his whole life, Steph got into schools first, and now these two Type A-plus overachievers are trying to carve out 20 to 30 extra hours a week like time is hiding in a drawer somewhere. It is part podcast, part intervention, and part academic hostage situation. #BetweenTwoTeeth #LawSchoolPodcast #DentalPodcast #DentistryPodcast #OralSurgery #Periodontics #DentalLife #DoctorLife #MedSchool #LawSchoolLife #NonTraditionalStudent #CareerGrowth #TypeAPersonality #MotorcyclePodcast #PodcastRoast #HealthcareLeadership #DoctorsInLawSchool #LifelongLearning #WorkLifeBalance #Overachievers

Why two surgeons are going to law school

19 min

Join Bobby and Steph as they discuss their why and how two dentists, who are happy being surgeons, would go to law school. They chat LSAT, applications, workload, and all the things in between. Have you thought about going to law school as a non-traditional applicant? If so, this motorcycle diary is for you

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Age Gap Reality Check: Who Has It Harder in Their 30s or 50s?

14 min

Bobby and Steph take on the age gap question from the road: who really has it harder, people in their 30s or people in their 50s? In this episode of Between Two Teeth, they talk marriage, career pressure, health, kids, law school, energy, wisdom, fear, reinvention, and the very real difference between building a life in your 30s and rebuilding or redefining one in your 50s. It is funny, honest, a little uncomfortable, and exactly the kind of conversation that happens when two overachieving dentists, law students, and motorcycle adventurers start comparing life stages through a helmet mic. #BetweenTwoTeeth #AgeGap #AgeGapRelationship #LifeInYour30s #LifeInYour50s #MarriagePodcast #RelationshipPodcast #DentistPodcast #DentalPodcast #OralSurgery #Periodontics #LawSchoolLife #NonTraditionalStudent #MidlifeReinvention #CareerGrowth #WorkLifeBalance #MotorcyclePodcast #DoctorLife #SecondAct #PersonalGrowth

Two Surgeons walk into a Law School. Roast edition.

18 min

Two dental specialists, medical degrees, dental degrees, multiple residencies, fellowships, an MBA, motorcycles, mountain climbs, and somehow Bobby and Steph decided the missing piece was law school. In this NotebookLM roast edition of Between Two Teeth, we ask the obvious question: how many degrees are enough before someone gently recommends a silent retreat? Bobby has wanted to go to law school his whole life, Steph got into schools first, and now these two Type A-plus overachievers are trying to carve out 20 to 30 extra hours a week like time is hiding in a drawer somewhere. It is part podcast, part intervention, and part academic hostage situation. #BetweenTwoTeeth #LawSchoolPodcast #DentalPodcast #DentistryPodcast #OralSurgery #Periodontics #DentalLife #DoctorLife #MedSchool #LawSchoolLife #NonTraditionalStudent #CareerGrowth #TypeAPersonality #MotorcyclePodcast #PodcastRoast #HealthcareLeadership #DoctorsInLawSchool #LifelongLearning #WorkLifeBalance #Overachievers

Why two surgeons are going to law school

19 min

Join Bobby and Steph as they discuss their why and how two dentists, who are happy being surgeons, would go to law school. They chat LSAT, applications, workload, and all the things in between. Have you thought about going to law school as a non-traditional applicant? If so, this motorcycle diary is for you

Control, motorcycle diary edition.

10 min

Bobby and Steph are back on the road with a helmet-recorded conversation about motorcycles, control, marriage, momentum, and the beautiful chaos of trying to live fully while keeping the wheels turning.

Bad luck. Salt air. Dead bike by the ocean.

9 min

Broken bike. Ocean air. Real conversation.Recorded on the California coast after a motorcycle breakdown, this episode is part roadside debrief, part reflection, and part reminder that the best stories usually start when the plan fails.

Dead Bike, Bad Mic. Roadside confessions.

15 min

A motorcycle breaks down in California. One microphone barely works. Law school is still waiting. And somehow, that becomes the episode. In this field-recorded conversation, Bobby and Steph talk through the messiness of travel, marriage, adventure, and trying to keep moving when the plan falls apart. The audio is imperfect, but the moment is real. Broken bike. Bad mic. Good story. Still practicing. Still learning. Still riding. Still between two teeth.

The Comeback Roast:.

5 min

After a multi-year podcast disappearance, Bobby and Steph are back, married, riding motorcycles, working full-time, going to law school part-time, and somehow pretending this was all a reasonable life plan. This short roast episode is a sarcastic victory lap through the Between Two Teeth relaunch. We make fun of the hiatus, the “worst kept secret in dentistry” wedding reveal, the motorcycle chaos, the overcommitted schedule, and the fact that Bobby and Steph apparently believe rest is something that happens to other people. This episode includes an AI-assisted roast segment generated with NotebookLM using our own Between Two Teeth source material. The sarcasm may be artificial, but the chaos is unfortunately real. Listen to Season 2, Episode 1 first. Then come back for the roast.

We are back. In Cali. On motorcycles.

15 min

Between Two Teeth is back for Season 2. We kick things off in Cali, on motorcycles, talking about how the marriage happened, the proposal in the Himalayan mountains, and the wild ride that brought us here. Surgeons. Law students. Adventurers. Back in the saddle.

Ep. 53:: Life Hacks for Emotions

3 min

In this episode of Between Two Teeth, Bobby and Stephy Steph uncover life hacks for dealing with emotions, particularly anxiety. Join them as they explore strategies for managing emotional energy, navigating cognitive overload, and embracing the perspective that the rearview mirror is smaller than the windshield.  Bobby shares his insights on overcoming challenges like not being a runner, while Stephy Steph discusses how exercise helps her balance emotions. Tune in for actionable tips, relatable anecdotes, and empowering advice to thrive amidst life's ups and downs. Subscribe now for #EmotionalWellness, #LifeHacks, and #MindfulLiving. Don't miss this enlightening discussion!

Ep. 52: Walking Diaries figuring out the meaning of life

4 min

Join Bobby and Stephy Steph for a special edition of Between Two Teeth: Walking Diaries. In this episode, they delve deep into the meaning of life, sharing their experiences, adventures, and insights on when to pivot in your career and beyond.  Embark on this journey of self-discovery and personal growth as they explore what it means to live your best life. Tune in for thought-provoking conversations, invaluable wisdom, and inspiration to seize every moment. Subscribe now for #LifeReflections, #AdventureTalk, and #CareerPivot. Don't miss out on this enriching experience!

Ep. 51: Motorcycle Diaries with Bobby and Stephy Steph

12 min

Join Bobby and Stephy Steph on a thrilling edition of Between Two Teeth as they embark on a journey reminiscent of the "Motorcycle Diaries." In this episode, they confront unnecessary fears, share exhilarating adventures from hiking to camping, and discuss the essence of living a life best lived. Tune in for inspiring stories, adrenaline-pumping escapades, and insightful conversations that will ignite your sense of adventure and push you to embrace the unknown. Subscribe now for #AdventureInspiration, #FearlessLiving, and #LifeWellLived. Don't miss out on this unforgettable ride!

Ep. 50: Everyday Oral Surgery x Between Two Teeth: Navigating Challenges and Origins (Part 4)

18 min

In the final installment of our collaborative series with Everyday Oral Surgery and Between Two Teeth, we tackle tough topics head-on. From handling bad clinical outcomes to navigating regulatory issues, we provide insights and guidance for dental professionals facing adversity.  Bobby shares his experiences as a state board member, shedding light on regulatory challenges. Additionally, we explore the genesis of Between Two Teeth and its mission to empower dental professionals. Tune in for #DentalChallenges, #RegulatoryInsights, and #PodcastOrigins. Subscribe now for illuminating discussions and invaluable takeaways!

Ep, 49: Everyday Oral Surgery x Between Two Teeth: Overcoming Challenges and Fostering Wellness in Dentistry (Part 3)

22 min

Join us for the concluding part of our collaborative series with Everyday Oral Surgery and Between Two Teeth. In this episode, we delve into overcoming challenges and fostering wellness in dentistry. From shedding the chip off your shoulder to embracing a growth mindset, we discuss strategies for personal and professional development.  This episode is a must-listen for dental professionals seeking to thrive in their careers. Tune in for #DentalWellness, #ProfessionalGrowth, and #MentalHealthAwareness. Subscribe now for insightful conversations and actionable advice!

Ep. 48: Everyday Oral Surgery x Between Two Teeth: Challenges of Being a New Doctor in a Multispecialty Practice (Part 2)

11 min

Join us for Part 2 of our collaborative series with Everyday Oral Surgery and Between Two Teeth. In this episode, we tackle the frustrations faced by new doctors in a multispecialty practice. From navigating egos to managing financial arrangements, we explore the hurdles and opportunities of this dynamic environment.  This candid discussion sheds light on the realities of starting a career in dentistry. Tune in for #NewDoctorChallenges, #MultispecialtyPractice, and #DentalCareerInsights. Subscribe now for valuable insights and practical advice!

Ep. 47: Everyday Oral Surgery x Between Two Teeth: Exploring the Combined Model of Periodontics and Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery (Part 1)

16 min

We usually do not talk about Teeth, but here we go. In this groundbreaking collaboration between Everyday Oral Surgery and Between Two Teeth, we dive into the innovative model of combining periodontics and oral & maxillofacial surgery. Join us as we uncover the synergies, benefits, and challenges of this integrated approach to dental care.  Hosted by Everyday Oral Surgery's Dr. Grant Stucki and Between Two Teeth's Stephy Steph and Bobby, this multipart series delves deep into the intricacies of the combined model, offering insights, expert interviews, and practical advice.  Tune in for #DentalInnovation, #IntegratedDentistry, and #Oralsurgery. Subscribe now for this enlightening series and expand your understanding of dental care!

Ep.. 46 Struggling to make a decision?

7 min

Welcome to Between Two Teeth, where we delve into the art of decision-making and the power of aligning your choices with your core values. Join us as Stephy Steph, your host, explores the intersection of values, ethics, and decision-making in various aspects of life, from career dilemmas to personal relationships and everything in between. This podcast offers insights, strategies, and real-life stories to help you make informed decisions that resonate with your values and lead to fulfillment and authenticity. Tune in to Between Two Teeth for #DecisionMaking, #ValuesDrivenLife, and #ConsciousLiving. Subscribe now and never miss an episode!

Ep: 45 Should you do what your parents told you to do?

7 min

Join Bobby and Stephy Steph as they dig deep into values and does what we learned as a child serve us well as we get older? Check out Steph's article on the topic here: https://betweentwoteeth.substack.com/p/dont-wait-find-your-values-today #betweentwoteeth

Ep. 44: Figuring it out/Motorcycle diaries

13 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they have a debate about the Universe giving you what you need versus what you want whilst on the motorcycles.  #meaning #life

Ep. 43: Indecision is a decision/Motorcycle Diaries

11 min

Do you hate making decisions? Would you like to be more #decisive? Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they adventure on their motorcycles and have conversations about making decisions about things big and small. #decisions #motorcyclediaries

Ep. 39: Making connection Chiang Mai, Thailand streets

11 min

Stephy Steph and Bobby chat about talking with local people on their Thailand adventure. They connected with a young women based on her motorcycle. Talk to strangers and amazing things happen! Enjoy the banter and the street sounds from Chiang Mai. Check us out over on YouTube to enjoy the visuals of the street.

Ep. 38: Thailand: push to get out of your comfort zone.

6 min

Enjoy the city sounds of Chiang Mai, Thailand whilst the docs enjoy a spicy meal. They chat travel, taking a bamboo raft down a river (Steph hits the guide). They push y'all to get out of your comfort zone with food, people, and culture. They talk group travel , safety, and not letting unnecessary fear hold you back. 

Ep. 37 Tasting SPICY food in Chiang Mai, Thailand

5 min

Bobby and Stephy Steph are at a local restaurant in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Enjoy the local street sounds. They chat spicy foods, Bobby's toothache (if only be knew a dentist), and they chat adventure. #spicyfood #travel #thailand #chiangmai #bucketlist

Ep. 35: A special chat about life with a special guest

51 min

Stephy Steph and Bobby chat with Dr. Brett Kessler who is the new President-elect of the American Dental Association on his 25th anniversary of being in recovery. The conversation was prompted by recent suicides in the dental profession. This is a wide ranging chat with a range of emotions and covers connection, fear, suicide, addiction, and also living a life best lived. 

Ep. 34: Motorcycle diaries - Being uncomfortable

13 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby on the motorcycles today as they chat about comfort and uncomfortability (yes perhaps a made-up word but it fits).  Should being uncomfortable be embraced or feared? Give a list, especially at the end to hear Steph's sweet sounding exhaust. 

Ep. 32: Day 3 advice for people taking the Inca Trail

10 min

Stephy Steph and Bobby discuss advice for someone taking the adventure of the Inca Trail. This advice is especially for those over 50 that may not be in the physical condition they would like to be in. Can they do this? Bobby chats his fears and anxieties  and the necessary struggle with an adventure like this. 

Ep. 31: Day 3 Inca Trail

17 min

Bobby continues his journey on day 3 of the Inca Trail. He reflects on failures and advice he would give his younger self. What would you tell your younger self? Bobby's advice deals with fear. Bobby is enjoying this physically brutal adventure. He reflects upon the adage that amazing things happen when you say why not!

Ep. 30: Day 3 Inca Trail musings

19 min

What can you learn about yourself hiking the Inca Trail? Bobby chats about training and challenges as he makes his say on day 3 of 4. Do you need a challenge? Is Machu Picchu on your bucket list? Give a listen and come along on the adventure!

Ep. 29: Day 3 on the Inca Trail

14 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby on day 3 on the Inca Trail. Is the hardest part behind them or is this just the start? Are they both enjoying the journey? If Machu Picchu is on your bucket list then give a listen to see if this is the adventure you would like to take!

Ep. 28: Making it through

19 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby on the last part of day 2 on the Inca Trail. Stephy came back to find Bobby to make sure he was doing okay with the steps down. They chat about what they have learned and their desire to connect to others. 

Ep. 27: Bobby on the other side of Dead Women's pass

24 min

Day 2 Inca Trail with Bobby chatting about going down the steps after hitting the summit. He talks about what he did to train and what he has learned on this adventure so far. Do you wonder if you can do the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu? Follow this adventure to make it your own!

Ep. 26: Reaching the summit of Dead Women's Pass

3 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they reach the summit on day 2 of the Inca Trail trek.  This was supposed to be the tough part of day 2. For Bobby it was a physical struggle of almost 6 hours of steps up. Stephy Steph lead the group pack and came back to get Bobby after reaching the summit early. 

Ep. 25: Bobby is struggling on day #2 Inca Trail

17 min

Join Bobby as he is trying to reach the summit of Dead Women's Pass on the Inca Trai. Have you thought about hiking to Machu Picchu? Do you need an adventure or a push to get more physically active? Listen in as Bobby tries to get to the top.

Ep. 24: Bobby making his way (slowly) up on day #2 Inca Trail

19 min

Join Bobby on his portion of this journey on the Inca Trail. He is trying to enjoy the journey versus the destination. He is also trying to figure out his why and pushes all of us to figure out what we need and want to do.

Ep. 23: Inca trail day #2 working up to Dead Women's Pass

4 min

Stephy Steph and Bobby are going up to Dead Women's Pass on day #2 of the Inca Trail trek to Machu Picchu. They chat challenges, struggle and taking baby steps to reach goals.  If you are considering going to Machu Picchu give this a listen.

Ep. 22: trek day #2 on the Inca Trail

3 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they begin day 2 on the Inca Trail. This is the tough day up to Dead Women's Pass. Will they both make it? Bobby is certainly apprehensive.  If you are considering hiking the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu you should give this a listen.  Bobby also gives some hiking and camping advice. 

Ep. 21: Made it to camp on trek day 1 on the Inca Trail

4 min

Hear Stephy Steph and Bobby chat after their first day on  the Inca Trail. They made it to the camp after the first "easy" day on the trail.  If Machu Picchu is on your bucket list, you should consider the 4 day hike and give this a listen.

Ep. 18: Bobby chats backstory of getting to the Inca Trail

13 min

Join Bobby as he chats some of the details for the Inca Trail Machu Picchu trip. Recording is being done early in the am so he is whispering. He chats cost, expedition group, medications and training for the trip. Logistics are also discussed on travelling to Lima and Cuzco. 

Ep. 17: The start of the Inca Trail hike day 1

7 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they start the journey on the Inca Trail on the way to Machu Picchu. Is this on your bucket list? If so, follow their adventure. They second part of this episode is Bobby talking while on his first day on the trail. He didn't train as much as he would have liked. What will his adventure be like? Will he make it? On the last part, Stephy chats about her first day on the trail.

Ep. 16: Ollantaytambo walkabout before the Inca Trail

19 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they walk around the ancient Inca town of Ollantaytambo.  Both talk about their own well-being journey and how this adventure up the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu will help with their own wellness.  There is also a bonus episode at the end.

Ep. 15: What holds you back?

4 min

Stephy Steph and Bobby are on the Pacific Ocean in Lima, Peru. Both docs talk about what holds them back and question what they would love to do. 

Ep. 14: What needs to be learned? Stephy is thinking surfing.

4 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they walk the Pacific Ocean in Lima, Peru. They chat about what you can learn if you slow down. Bobby really struggles with slowing down. Stephy Steph loves seeing the surfers, wishes she could get out their and ride the waves of the Pacific and the waves of life!  What would you like to do to ride the waves of life?

Ep. 13: Finding meaning & purpose on the Pacific Ocean

4 min

Join Stephy Steph and Bobby as they chat about sitting still, listening to the Pacific Ocean and figuring out what you can learn on an adventure. They are at the start of their Inca Trail adventure but still in Lima, Peru.

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