Travis Brungardt, Brandon Jones

Building Consensus

A Careers , Business and Science podcast

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About the show

From controversy to consensus, this podcast addresses fundamental building issues as well as building science nuance through discussions with industry experts. With each episode we seek to arrive at a common understanding, despite our dissimilar approaches or opposing views that reflect our unique experiences. It’s a pursuit of that mythical beast “best practice” through some good natured ribbing and spirited debate. Hopefully, we’ll be reaching common ground regardless of the different paths we tread.”

Newest episodes

Assisted Intelligence with CJ Nielsen

Nov 5, 2026 37 min

Are the bots coming to take our jobs or save us from the toil of hard labor? While some fear or at least avoid the technological progress of artificial intelligence, CJ Nielsen has found tremendous value and facility in its use. Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Dreaming Big with Jason Bekebrede

Oct 29, 2026 35 min

On this episode of the Building Consensus Podcast, hosts Brandon Jones and Travis Brungardt sit down with Jason Bekebrede, owner of Monticello custom home building and remodeling in the Ozarks, while recording at Build Show Live. Jason traces his path from business school to spec homes to custom work after the housing market collapse. The conversation covers building science, energy performance, and comfort as a point of difference in custom construction. They also discuss delegating roles, setting boundaries between work and home, investing in team education, sharing knowledge among builders, and setting long-range goals for how a construction business can fit the life its owner wants. Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Be Kind But Beware

Oct 22, 2026 25 min

Beware the demands on your generosity, for they create a perennial Yes. (Happy to help in this moment but not happy to be expected to take this on in perpetuity- subcontractor expectations, client expectations, on and on) Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

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All episodes

Assisted Intelligence with CJ Nielsen

Nov 5, 2026 37 min

Dreaming Big with Jason Bekebrede

Oct 29, 2026 35 min

Be Kind But Beware

Oct 22, 2026 25 min

Are You Worth It?

Oct 15, 2026 23 min

We all work because we want to have the benefits of more money, but how can we attain this ever-elusive “more”? There’s more steps to getting paid than just showing up and doing the work so let’s decide how to add value. Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Prioritize Practicality

Oct 8, 2026 23 min

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. There are a number of things we are doing to our homes now that don’t offer enough aesthetic benefit to justify their risk or inconvenience. So where should we prioritize practicality? Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Kicking the Can

Oct 1, 2026 29 min

s almost never good to put something off. Kicking the can down the road costs more time and money almost without exception, but are there some items that make sense to procrastinate on? Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Stackin’ Paper

Sep 24, 2026 31 min

Some people become very wealthy in the building industry, but it seems like they aren’t usually the ones actually doing the building. Maybe you don’t need to get to the point of owning a publicly held company to establish wealth as a tradesperson if you are open to dealing with rental properties. Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

What’s Your Workflow?

Sep 17, 2026 40 min

There’s always more to do than there are hours to get it down, so the way you use your time is critical to your success. Where can we trim wasteful efforts and establish more effective daily habits to gain more time? Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Auntie Overtime

Sep 10, 2026 26 min

Does the traditionally recognized time-and-a-half hourly rate after forty hours work as it’s intended or does it incentivize the wrong approach to labor and productivity? Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Crisis of Character

Sep 3, 2026 27 min

When we look at our colleagues throughout the building industry we can occasionally feel less than, but should we? Perhaps given that same amount of time and budget to match we would all get there too. Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

The High Cost of Saving

Aug 27, 2026 28 min

Keeping the extra sticks of specialty trim or cutoffs from that last cabinet job can save you on the next one, but what does it really cost you to accumulate, store and manage those responsibly saved materials? Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Humble Pie or S. Sandwich

Aug 20, 2026 28 min

We all make mistakes, but when we do we often get the benefit of learning a lesson or at least a dash of humility. What happens when that humble pie is served in part by someone else leaving you with an “S” sandwich?Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Secrets Secrets Are No Fun

Aug 13, 2026 25 min

If manufacturers and suppliers have the ability to share the key details that make their products operate best then they have an obligation to do so. So why wouldn’t they? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Waxing on Warranties

Aug 6, 2026 29 min

Should a warranty on a material or product drive our selection? Does it offer any real value to the project, or just a perceived value to our client? Find out on the next Building Consensus Podcast! Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

All The Small things

Jul 30, 2026 30 min

When does it make sense for your firm to handle small projects and when do we need to decline them? How can we do either one with grace, efficiency and with profitability in mind? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilma Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Navigating the Sea of Blame

Jul 23, 2026 22 min

When things don’t got precisely as planned on site, there’s often a period of assessing just who is at fault and who is responsible for the fix. Graceful execution of these conversations is critical to keeping partnerships alive and progress on track. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

To Flange or Not to Flange

Jul 16, 2026 27 min

Brandon wanted to call this one the in’s and out’s of European (flangeless) windows, but Travis wanted to compare and contrast the tradition exterior mounted flanged units with the mid wall or innie alternatives. Listen to see who got their way and let us know in the comments. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Answer Request Line

Jul 9, 2026 32 min

We love receiving listener mail and even more so when there’s a question to answer, a problem to solve or a debate to be… debated. With some Building Science and Best Practices to parse here the fellas do their best to arrive at consensus yet again. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Looking Back

Jul 2, 2026 22 min

In our milestone episode we take a moment to appreciate the support of our listeners, celebrate our past guests and even quiz Brandon on what we’ve been doing these past 2 years. Enjoy! Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

We Are Not Created Equal

Jun 25, 2026 24 min

We all have our own strengths and weaknesses and each of us has potential and the ability to contribute. That said, there are simply some tasks that require a certain trait and we need to be honest about that. Painters need good eyesight, framers can’t be afraid of heights and so on. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Yo Partner! or No partner

Jun 18, 2026 28 min

Having a business partnership rather than flying all your missions solo can certainly spread the burden and make it easier to bear, but it also complicates decision making and invites debate. Would you be better of going it alone? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Dollars and Sense

Jun 11, 2026 34 min

In an ever-changing economy, we have to constantly adjust to labor rates, material costs and address market forces before we get stuck holding the bag. But how? Huge thanks to our podcast sponsor, Ring's End. Learn more at: https://www.ringsend.com/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Am I On Speaker?

Jun 4, 2026 31 min

In lamenting the many trials and tribulations they suffer day in and day out the fellas identify a few pet peeves that have real impacts. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Good, Better, Best

May 28, 2026 34 min

The three levels of offerings often cited in building and other sales processes can offer useful comparative analysis for buyers looking to make an informed decision. Unfortunately, there is an implied but unspoken statement that “Good” is adequate and the others are unnecessary upgrades. Should we abandon GBB? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Modesty: Asset or Liability

May 21, 2026 34 min

It’s always good to listen before you speak, learn what you can from others and maintain humility as we move through the world. That said, can you defer too much or spend too much time communicating praise of others when you should be positioning yourself as the valued expert? Sometimes we need a confident take-charge general in pursuit of productivity. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Gratuitous Contracting

May 14, 2026 21 min

While many of us in renovation have received a little holiday treat or something extra it's definitely not the norm, day in and day out. Should we, as service providers be part of the gratuity demanding operations so many other industries employ. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Does Brandon's Perm Matter?

May 7, 2026 17 min

Brandon enjoys upsetting Travis enough that he's once again brought up vapor. The permeance of materials in our assemblies does matter, but just how much is up for some debate. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Lemme Finish

Apr 30, 2026 26 min

Travis Brungardt uses a candid shop-floor conversation to unpack one of construction’s toughest challenges: knowing when a project is truly finished. He discusses how builders often keep refining details long after schedules say the job should be done, chasing higher standards in trim, finishes, and overall presentation. The episode explores the tension between craftsmanship, timelines, budgets, and client expectations, especially when aesthetic standards are hard to define. Brungardt also talks through mockups, sample approvals, and clearer benchmarks as ways to reduce rework and liability. The broader theme centers on balancing perfectionism with practical project management in custom home building. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Who Plays Nice In The Sandbox?

Apr 23, 2026 28 min

From time to time we have to schedule multiple trades in on top of each other to meet schedule. This can work, but only if all the players are organized and willing. The sandbox can be peaceful and productive if we can be nice or at least respectful, and if we all share the common goal. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Out of Budget Sure, But Never Out of Options

Apr 16, 2026 33 min

What do we do when our clients don't track their spending, can't stay on budget (or won't)? Is there a reasonable responsibility we face that all parties agree to? What can we do to help our clients and ourselves finish their projects on budget? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Hold on Loosely

Apr 9, 2026 31 min

If you can't relax your grip on the dollars in your budget or the tools in your hand it may just keep you from ever achieving the goals you've laid out. The fellas discuss wether it's worth discussing a dream you can never realize or if it's best to just crush that dream right out of the gate with the heavy weight of reality. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Listener Helpline! Accessory Building Science

Apr 2, 2026 36 min

Ryan writes in to ask if there’s a balance to be struck between building science based high performance goals and realistic expectations for an existing home or accessory building. Where’s the line between responsible investment and blatant disregard for budget or performance? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Who’s a Big Boy - Part Deux

Mar 26, 2026 22 min

On our last Who’s a Big Boy we discussed wether it makes sense to buy heavy equipment to operate in-house. Now it’s time to move that equipment around, along with all the material it pushes, pulls or places. So we ask: does it make sense to buy a dump trailer? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Talkin’ Shop

Mar 19, 2026 26 min

When does a company need a shop? Is it when they have too many tools and a bunch of stuff to store, when they make a product there that can be sold to pay the rent, or once you have so many people you need a place to congregate and operate? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Warranty THIS!

Mar 12, 2026 27 min

With the inherent risks in what we do there’s an important line to be drawn where our responsibility ends and the clients choices, maintenance (or disregard for both) begin. When they won’t follow our advice are we still gonna stand behind it? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Pipeline for the People

Mar 5, 2026 24 min

We constantly hear builders talking about the pipeline of work in queue and how they’re gonna load up… But should you ramp up and add crew to match the demand in the market? Or is it better to reduce the volume of input down to what your existing crew can manage? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Blank Check or Calculate Risk

Feb 26, 2026 21 min

Are we able to turn trade partners loose on are clients homes based purely on their track record of charging fairly or do we need that quote in writing first? It stinks to have to do all the admin and front end confirmation but it’s the only way to protect ourselves and our clients - except when it isn’t. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

From Private to General - Part 2 with Wolfgang Clapper

Feb 19, 2026 35 min

Since Travis is always going on about how great his framer Wolfgang is, it comes as no surprise that Wolf is considering taking on the full scope of a renovation project. This led him to seek some advice on how to get started as a general contractor, what to include in the contract, estimating and pricing, dealing with subs and trying to profit. This is Part Two of the Q and A. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

From Private to General - Part 1 with Wolfgang Clapper

Feb 12, 2026 32 min

On the Building Consensus Podcast, Travis Brungardt and Brandon Jones open with a nod to longtime sponsor Huber Engineered Woods, reflecting on field experience with products like ZIP System sheathing and AdvanTech subflooring, and why performance and durability matter on real job sites. They’re joined by framer Wolfgang Clapper to discuss the transition from trade contractor to general contractor. The conversation covers contractor licensing, pulling permits, and navigating municipal requirements, along with structuring proposals, defining scope of work, and choosing between cost-plus and lump-sum contracts. They also examine subcontractor relationships and the operational shift from hands-on construction to managing risk, budgets, and business systems. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Stick Frame versus Truss

Feb 5, 2026 34 min

Comparing the cost, speed and quality of framing with traditional dimensional lumber against the potential labor and schedule advantages of engineered trusses leaves the fellas far from consensus. While there are some absolute certainties in building (it always costs more later, it always takes longer…) this key decision rests squarely on “it depends”. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Building Science Review with Brett Rindt of Truewerk

Jan 29, 2026 52 min

When Brett Rindt reached out with number of questions about the proper Building Science approach to employ at his home renovation in Golden, Colorado we thought that his questions could be answered to broader benefit. It’s a Building Consensus strategic advisory for Brett’s WUI zone deep energy retrofit that allows air sealing and insulating from the outside in! Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Movin’ On Up

Jan 22, 2026 39 min

Since Travis is moving he and Brandon debate what tasks you feel you must self-perform on your own home versus what you can trust to a subcontractor. Also, can a modest man with an even-more-modest budget dig a hole and put together their own swimming pool? Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

New Year, New Me

Jan 1, 2026 32 min

The fellas decide what from 2025 should be left behind and what change they will push for in 2026. From celebrating growth to making some strategic contractions, new materials that worked great or hard lessons learned that will now never be repeated, this is your end of your Building Consensus wrap up. Huge thanks to our episode sponsor, Huber Engineered Woods Learn more at: https://www.huberwood.com/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Pick Em’: Follows Instructions or Knows Their Stuff

Dec 25, 2025 30 min

When our team fails to follow instructions because they think they know better it wastes the time taken to plan the job, time spent to visit the site and lay out the crew as well as the time required for the lead to determine what happened and wether or not the new strategy is acceptable. Is following instructions the most valuable skill or would trade it for someone who knows their stuff? Huge thanks to our episode sponsor, Diamond Kote. Learn more at: https://diamondkotesiding.com/ and find them on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/diamond_kote/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

The Unbearable Burden of Certainty

Dec 18, 2025 39 min

While it’s frustrating to be mistaken it absolutely maddening to be right when you think “this is going to be a problem”. Finding a way to work with a subcontractor who you knew was going to be a problem seems like an unfair burden to bear but perhaps we have only ourselves to blame. Huge thanks to our episode sponsor, Diamond Kote. Learn more at: https://diamondkotesiding.com/ and find them on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/diamond_kote/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Easier to Build New or Re-Do?

Dec 11, 2025 32 min

It may seem so obvious as to not even warrant a discussion, but when considering the challenge of building a new home versus renovating an existing home there’s an awful lot to argue about. High stakes in either case with clients, designers, weather and cash on the line make this one not as simple as you might think. Huge thanks to our episode sponsor, Diamond Kote. Learn more at: https://diamondkotesiding.com/ and find them on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/diamond_kote/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Certifiably Passive with Jeremiah Sommer

Dec 4, 2025 45 min

Many view the Passive House building standard as the pinnacle of high performance building but so often that view gets tied to specific products. While some make it easier than others, the technique is really the key so we discuss that with self-performer Jeremiah Sommer. Wether you certify with PHIUS or just build a Pretty Good House the strategies make all the difference. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Not Mustard, Catch up.

Nov 27, 2025 33 min

It's been a minute since we got together so rather than seek a debate we just tried to connect on what's been going on with our projects, our teams and our lives. We won't solve your problems this week, but we'll let you into ours. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

HOA: Highly Onerous Assessment With Stephanie Dailey

Nov 20, 2025 44 min

Some jurisdictions have a notoriously tough codes enforcement official and others have almost no oversight. But what about the non-governmental burden of the HOA? Does this “authority” protect the community or drive the cost of housing way beyond what value it adds? This week the fellas are joined by @stephaniebuildsit to learn how a porta potty can cost you $28,000 in Utah. Follow Stephanie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stephaniebuildsit/ Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

Serving, Not Selling with Dan Edelman

Nov 13, 2025 30 min

Don’t let the salesman waste your time! Our suppliers, vendors, and product reps can be an untapped resource if we don’t take a minute to hear what they’ve got going. Especially when the “help me help you” is sincere like Dan Edelman’s commitment has been. Find Travis & Brandon on the Web Travis’ Build Show Videos: https://buildshownetwork.com/go/travisbrungardt Travis’ Instagram: @catalystbuilt Travis’ Website: https://www.catalystbuilt.com/ Brandon’s Instagram: @bbuildsit Brandon's Website: https://www.aarowbuilding.com/projects/gilman Don't miss a single episode of Build Show content. Sign up for our newsletter.

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Created by: Travis Brungardt, Brandon Jones
Status: Active
Latest episode: Nov 5, 2026
Episodes: 119
Release period: Weekly
Avg. episode length: 31 min
Explicit: No
Language: English

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