Automated Athens: Ancient Greek Ideals in the Early Age of Automation | Dr. Michele Kennerly
50 min
Why do we constantly look back to the ancient past to make sense of artificial intelligence, automation, and the future of work? Penn State University's associate professor of communication and classics, Dr. Michele Kennerly, joins host PJ Wehry to discuss the surprising history of how ancient Athenian democracy shapes our modern visions of AI and cybernetics. Dr. Kennerly explores the intersection of ancient rhetoric and technology in her book, Automated Athens: Ancient Greek Ideals in the Early Age of Automation. They examine how techno-futurists and cybernetic pioneers haven't just focused on cold mechanics, but have historically drawn on Greek ideals to imagine a post-work world that balances technological progress with deep human connection and philosophy. In this conversation they explore: Why the discourse around mid-century automation and modern AI frequently invokes a "discourse of purity" surrounding ancient Athenian democracy, hoping to recreate its philosophical heights without its historical atrocities. The crucial paradox identified by MIT mathematician Norbert Wiener: why humanity cannot realistically build artificial systems that possess both supreme intelligence and supreme obedience. How scholar Alice Mary Hilton coined the term "cyberculture" in 1963 as a historical counterweight to agriculture, questioning how humans will derive self-worth and meaning if machines eliminate traditional labor. Why America's Founding Fathers strictly embraced Roman republicanism, while mid-century cyberneticists turned instead to Greek democracy as a way to critique the modern military-industrial complex. Media theorist Marshall McLuhan's belief that thriving in an automated age requires a revival of liberal arts education to help us reclaim the forgotten arts of deep reading, conversation, and listening. The concept of communication as "equipment for living together"—and how understanding rhetoric helps us bridge the tragic and comedic chasm of trying to relate to...