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We all come from different backgrounds and experiences, yet we also are very similar in many ways. Each week, Laura & Zach will dive into what makes each of us special through the lens of the personality typing system known as the Enneagram. They'll explore all nine personality types, how they relate to each other, and what each person brings to this world - while encouraging listeners to "Shine their Light".

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Round Table Series: Type 4 with Brenda | Episode 35

30 min

Welcome back to our Round Table Series! Each week, we hear firsthand from a different Enneagram type. This week, we’re joined by Brenda, a Type Four (the Individualist), who shares her journey of honoring her deep emotions without being swept away by them, letting go of the belief that something essential is missing in her, and finding beauty and meaning in the ordinary, everyday moments of life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Round Table Series: Type 3 with Barbara | Episode 34

31 min

Welcome to the third episode of our Round Table Series! This week, we’re joined by Barbara, a Type Three - the Achiever - who shares her journey of rewriting the narrative that love must be earned through hard work and achievement. She’s learning to embrace her worth beyond what she accomplishes and reframe the instinct to work harder when stress hits by choosing a different path: slowing down, resting, and recognizing she is already enough. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Round Table Series: Type 2 with Emily | Episode 33

23 min

Welcome to the second episode of our Round Table Series! Each week, we’ll hear firsthand from a different Enneagram type. This week, we’re joined by Emily, a Type Two - the Helper - who shares her journey of learning to say no without guilt, recognizing and communicating her own needs to others, and embracing the importance of caring for herself along the way. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Round Table Series: Type 4 with Brenda | Episode 35

30 min

Welcome back to our Round Table Series! Each week, we hear firsthand from a different Enneagram type. This week, we’re joined by Brenda, a Type Four (the Individualist), who shares her journey of honoring her deep emotions without being swept away by them, letting go of the belief that something essential is missing in her, and finding beauty and meaning in the ordinary, everyday moments of life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Round Table Series: Type 3 with Barbara | Episode 34

31 min

Welcome to the third episode of our Round Table Series! This week, we’re joined by Barbara, a Type Three - the Achiever - who shares her journey of rewriting the narrative that love must be earned through hard work and achievement. She’s learning to embrace her worth beyond what she accomplishes and reframe the instinct to work harder when stress hits by choosing a different path: slowing down, resting, and recognizing she is already enough. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Round Table Series: Type 2 with Emily | Episode 33

23 min

Welcome to the second episode of our Round Table Series! Each week, we’ll hear firsthand from a different Enneagram type. This week, we’re joined by Emily, a Type Two - the Helper - who shares her journey of learning to say no without guilt, recognizing and communicating her own needs to others, and embracing the importance of caring for herself along the way. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Round Table Series: Type 1 with Katie | Episode 32

26 min

Welcome to the first episode of our Round Table Series! Each week, we’ll hear firsthand from a different Enneagram type. We’re starting with Katie, a Type One—the Improver—who shares how discovering her type reshaped her self-understanding, deepened her desire to do the right thing, improve, and remain productive while also learning to give herself grace and be playful. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The One Where We Type the Friends | Episode 31

29 min

Six friends, one Thanksgiving, and a backyard football game that gets way too real. This week Zach and Laura press play on Friends and do something we’ve been dying to do: type the whole group. Who’s the competitor who can’t lose? Who’s the peacekeeper? Who’s the one carrying everyone’s feelings? We break down what each character through the lens of the Enneagram. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 7 - Part Two | Episode 30

27 min

Type 7s chase new experiences, keep every option open, and often skip past commitment in favor of the next exciting thing, but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 7 taps into Type 1 (following through, bringing structure and discipline to their ideas, and finding purpose in doing one thing well). It's not about becoming a different type. It's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 7 - Part One | Episode 29

26 min

Type 7s chase new experiences, keep every option open, and often avoid sitting still with discomfort — but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 7 taps into Type 5 (slowing down, going deep instead of wide, and finding focus and clarity in stillness instead of constant motion). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 6 - Part Two | Episode 28

26 min

Type 6s scan for risk, seek security, and often stay locked in a cycle of worst-case thinking — but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 6 taps into Type 9 (releasing anxious vigilance, trusting the process, and finding calm, steady peace instead of constant worry). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 6 - Part One | Episode 27

20 min

Type 6s scan for risk, seek security, and often second-guess themselves out of taking action - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 6 taps into Type 3 (trusting their own competence, moving forward with confidence, and taking decisive action instead of staying stuck in doubt). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 5 - Part Two | Episode 26

25 min

Type 5s retreat into their minds, conserve their energy, and often hold back from fully engaging with the world - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 5 taps into Type 7: embracing spontaneity, saying yes to new experiences, and finding joy and energy out in the world instead of just in their head. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 5 - Part One | Episode 25

21 min

Type 5s retreat into their minds, conserve their energy, and often hold back from fully engaging with the world - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 5 taps into Type 8 (taking decisive action, speaking up with confidence, and stepping fully into their body and their power). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 4 - Part Two | Episode 24

22 min

Type 4s feel deeply, chase meaning, and often get lost in their own inner world - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 4 taps into Type 2 (turning outward toward others, offering warmth and connection, and finding meaning in relationship rather than isolation). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 4 - Part One | Episode 23

15 min

Type 4s feel deeply, chase meaning, and often get lost in the emotional highs and lows - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 4 taps into Type 1 (creating structure, taking disciplined action, and channeling their feelings into purposeful, grounded work). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 3 - Part Two | Episode 22

22 min

Type 3s chase success, adapt to win approval, and often perform their way through life - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 3 taps into Type 9 (slowing down, letting go of the need to perform, and finding worth in simply being rather than doing). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 3 - Part One | Episode 21

21 min

Type 3s chase success, adapt to win approval, and often perform their way through life - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource point. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 3 taps into Type 6 (slowing down to ask questions, building genuine trust and loyalty, and grounding their identity in something deeper than achievement). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 2 | Episode 20

35 min

Type 2s give generously, anticipate everyone else's needs, and often lose themselves in the process - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource points. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 2 taps into Type 4 (honoring their own feelings, embracing authenticity, giving themselves permission to want things) and Type 8 (setting boundaries, speaking up directly, claiming their own strength). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 1 | Episode 19

31 min

Type 1s strive for integrity, order, and doing things the right way — but growth happens when they borrow from their resource points. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 1 taps into Type 7 (lightening up, embracing spontaneity, finding joy in imperfection) and Type 4 (honoring their feelings, embracing creativity, giving themselves grace). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 9 | Episode 18

33 min

Type 9s keep the peace, go with the flow, and often put everyone else's needs ahead of their own. But growth happens when they borrow from their resource points. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when a 9 taps into Type 3 (setting goals, taking action, showing up with confidence) and Type 6 (asking questions, voicing concerns, trusting their own instincts). Remember, t's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Resource Points Series: Type 8 | Episode 17

28 min

This week kicks off our Resource Points Series - diving into the two types that each of us are connected to.  Type 8s lead with strength, control, and protection - but growth happens when they borrow from their resource points. This week Zach and Laura explore what it looks like when an 8 taps into Type 5 (pausing, observing, creating space) and Type 2 (softening, connecting, letting themselves need people). It's not about becoming a different type - it's about growing into the best version of who they already are. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Breaking Down Beach Games: The Office Tribute | Episode 16

34 min

Zach and Laura head to the beach with the Dunder Mifflin crew! We're breaking down "Beach Games," the classic Office episode (Season 3, Episode 23) where Michael puts the whole office through a series of ridiculous competitions to find his successor. Using the chaos, competitiveness, and cringe of Scranton's finest, we type out the main characters: Michael, Jim, Dwight, Pam, Andy, and more; and dig into what their personalities reveal about how they show up on the Enneagram.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Head Type Series: Core Emotion for 5, 6, & 7 | Episode 15

26 min

This week, we’re talking about the core emotion of fear that all three Head Center Types (5,6,7) share. While all three types share a desire for safety and certainty, they navigate it in very different ways—through knowledge and preparation (5), seeking guidance and security (6), or focusing on possibilities and staying positive (7). Whether you identify with one of these types or have a Head type in your life, we hope this conversation brings greater understanding, compassion, and opportunities for growth. Keep shining your light, friends. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Head Type Series: Type 7 | Episode 14

28 min

In this episode, we explore Enneagram Type 7: The Enthusiast. As a part of the Head Center, Type 7s seek freedom and fulfillment by chasing new experiences and keeping their options open. We discuss how they process the world through thinking and possibility, and how integrating the Heart and Body Centers can help them live with greater depth, presence, and contentment. Shine your light, friends! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Head Type Series: Type 6 | Episode 13

27 min

In this episode, we explore Enneagram Type 6: The Loyalist. As a part of the Head Center, Type 6s seek security and certainty by anticipating what could go wrong and building trust with the people and systems around them. We discuss how they process the world through thinking and planning, and how integrating the Heart and Body Centers can help them live with greater courage, trust, and inner peace. Shine your light, friends! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Head Type Series: Type 5 | Episode 12

25 min

In this episode, we explore Enneagram Type 5 - The Investigator. As a part of the Head Center, Type 5s seek knowledge and understanding to feel safe and prepared. We discuss how they process the world through thinking and observation, and how integrating the Heart and Body Centers can help them live with greater connection, presence, and balance. Shine your light, friends! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heart Type Series: Core Emotion for 2, 3, & 4 | Episode 11

25 min

In this episode, we explore the Heart Center types - Enneagram numbers 2, 3, and 4 - and the core emotion they share: shame. We unpack how shame shows up differently in each type - through helping and being needed (2), achievement and image (3), and identity and emotional depth (4).  If you're a Heart type - or love one - this episode offers insight, growth, and encouragement. Keep shining your light, friends.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heart Type Series: Type 4 | Episode 10

25 min

In this episode, we continue our Heart Type Series with Enneagram Type 4 - The Individualist. Type 4's often internalize their emotions while searching for meaning, identity, authenticity, and a deeper understanding of themselves. We explore how integrating the Head & Body Centers can help them live in a more grounded, balanced way - all while honoring that Heart Center.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heart Type Series: Type 3 | Episode 9

23 min

In this episode, we continue with our Heart Type series with the Type 3 - The Achiever. As part of the Heart Center, Type 3s manage emotions by focusing on image, achievement, and productivity. They often set feelings aside for "later" to keep moving forward - but later doesn't always come. We also explore how integrating the Head & Body Centers helps 3s live more grounded, authentic, and wholehearted lives.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heart Type Series: Type 2 | Episode 8

26 min

In this episode, we kick off our Heart Type series with Enneagram Type 2—the Helper. We dive into how Type 2s outwardly express their emotions, often showing up for others with care, warmth, and generosity. We also explore what it looks like for 2s to integrate the Head and Body centers for a more grounded, well-rounded way of living. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Body Type Series: Core Emotion for 8, 9, & 1 | Episode 7

21 min

In this episode, we wrap up our Body Type series by diving into the core motivation of anger - something Types 8, 9, and 1 all experience, but express in very different ways. Keep shining, keep growing.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Body Type Series: Type 1 | Episode 6

23 min

This week we're exploring the Type 1, The Improver, and how they move through life from the Body Center, filtering right from wrong through a deep gut-driven sense of control. We dive into what it looks like to integrate the Head and Heart centers to become the most well-rounded version of themselves. Type 1s are such a gift to this world - keep shining your light. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Body Type Series: Type 9 | Episode 5

27 min

What does it mean to keep the peace - even with yourself? This week, we're diving into the world of the Type 9, the Peacemaker, and unpacking what it truly means to live from the Body Center. We explore how Nines navigate conflict, comfort, and connection, and why their greatest journey is learning to show up for their own inner voice. Whether you're a Nine, love a Nine, or are just discovering the Enneagram, this episode is a gentle reminder: your goodness matters. Shine your light. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Body Type Series: Type 8 | Episode 4

21 min

In this episode, we kick off our new series on the Body Triad by diving deep into Type 8: what drives them, challenges and strengths of what comes from being a dominant body type center, and what it looks like when they're truly shining their light. If you love an 8, are an 8, or just want to understand that one person in your life who always seems to be leading the charge, then this one's for you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why We Love the Enneagram | Episode 3

24 min

Laura and Zach get personal and discuss what made them fall in love with the Enneagram in the first place, and why it continues to shape the way they see themselves and the people around them. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Meet All 9 Types: A Beginner's Guide | Episode 2

25 min

Laura and Zach go around the Enneagram chart and take a look at all of the numbers, plus their core motivation. As they go through each of the personality types, see if you can figure out your number.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Introduction: Our Enneagram Discoveries | Episode 1

21 min

Laura and Zach kick off their podcast with a little insight about how they fell in love with the Enneagram and discovered their own types. They'll discuss their own journeys and how you can use the Enneagram in your own life.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Enneaways - Trailer

1 min

Husband & Wife Duo - Zach & Laura - discuss all things related to the Enneagram. The types, the instincts, and how to celebrate the beauty you bring to this world.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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