Futuristic #48 – Robots as a Service
1 hr 2 min
Today we work out where humanoid robots could actually close Australia’s labour shortfall in construction, agriculture, and manufacturing – and whether RaaS beats reshoring as the realistic first move.
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Futuristic #47 – Will Humanoid Robots Save Australia’s Economy Before AI Wrecks It
1 hr 2 min
Today we get into whether humanoid robots will fill Australia’s labour gaps before AI hollows out white-collar work, and why the answer to both questions is probably “sooner than the regulators are ready for.”
Futuristic #46 – 2022 vs 2025 vs 2028
1 hr 16 min
In this episode of Futuristic, Cameron and Steve reunite after a three-month break to reflect on how far artificial intelligence and robotics have come since the launch of ChatGPT in November 2022. They chart the wild rise from OpenAI’s first conversational model to today’s trillion-dollar valuations, integrated browsers, agentic coding tools, and the dawn of humanoid robots. Along the way they weigh the “bubble” narrative, the myth of a job apocalypse, and the cultural impact of AI on everything from creativity to capitalism. The conversation pivots from nostalgia for the early internet to speculation about the next three years—when everyone, they predict, will be working with personal AI agents and, perhaps, living alongside household robots. The banter swings between philosophy, tech history, humour, and a few pulled hamstrings. Futuristic recording – Oct 30, 2025 Cameron: [00:00:00] Welcome back to the Futuristic Podcast, episode 46. It is the 31st of October, 2025. The first time I’ve seen your face on a screen except on TikTok, Steve Sammartino. Since August 4th was the last time you and I did an episode, I did one with my old friend, Nick Johnson, principal of Toowoomba Ankin School on August 23. But we have not done a podcast for nearly three months, Steve. Not because there’s been nothing happening, just because there’s too much happening, and you’ve been too busy. Steve: Sounds so needy. I apologize wholeheartedly, Cameron. And, uh, the fact that you didn’t delete my phone from your contacts Cameron: No Steve: is revelatory, and I like it. It’s good. You’re a good man. And Cameron: revelatory. Steve: it and I missed it. Our chats because [00:01:00] every time I chat to you I get a little bit smarter. So I’ve been in Cameron: Same, same. Steve: and I’m glad we are going to, uh, unpack. Cameron: I’ve got less hair than the last time we talked. Not because it’s falling out, but just because it’s hard to tell with, there’s glare coming through my wi...
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Futuristic #48 – Robots as a Service
1 hr 2 min
Today we work out where humanoid robots could actually close Australia’s labour shortfall in construction, agriculture, and manufacturing – and whether RaaS beats reshoring as the realistic first move.
Futuristic #47 – Will Humanoid Robots Save Australia’s Economy Before AI Wrecks It
1 hr 2 min
Today we get into whether humanoid robots will fill Australia’s labour gaps before AI hollows out white-collar work, and why the answer to both questions is probably “sooner than the regulators are ready for.”
Futuristic #46 – 2022 vs 2025 vs 2028
1 hr 16 min
In this episode of Futuristic, Cameron and Steve reunite after a three-month break to reflect on how far artificial intelligence and robotics have come since the launch of ChatGPT in November 2022. They chart the wild rise from OpenAI’s first conversational model to today’s trillion-dollar valuations, integrated browsers, agentic coding tools, and the dawn of humanoid robots. Along the way they weigh the “bubble” narrative, the myth of a job apocalypse, and the cultural impact of AI on everything from creativity to capitalism. The conversation pivots from nostalgia for the early internet to speculation about the next three years—when everyone, they predict, will be working with personal AI agents and, perhaps, living alongside household robots. The banter swings between philosophy, tech history, humour, and a few pulled hamstrings. Futuristic recording – Oct 30, 2025 Cameron: [00:00:00] Welcome back to the Futuristic Podcast, episode 46. It is the 31st of October, 2025. The first time I’ve seen your face on a screen except on TikTok, Steve Sammartino. Since August 4th was the last time you and I did an episode, I did one with my old friend, Nick Johnson, principal of Toowoomba Ankin School on August 23. But we have not done a podcast for nearly three months, Steve. Not because there’s been nothing happening, just because there’s too much happening, and you’ve been too busy. Steve: Sounds so needy. I apologize wholeheartedly, Cameron. And, uh, the fact that you didn’t delete my phone from your contacts Cameron: No Steve: is revelatory, and I like it. It’s good. You’re a good man. And Cameron: revelatory. Steve: it and I missed it. Our chats because [00:01:00] every time I chat to you I get a little bit smarter. So I’ve been in Cameron: Same, same. Steve: and I’m glad we are going to, uh, unpack. Cameron: I’ve got less hair than the last time we talked. Not because it’s falling out, but just because it’s hard to tell with, there’s glare coming through my wi...
Futuristic #45 – Will AI Kill School as We Know It?
1 hr 0 min
In this episode of **Futuristic**, Cameron is joined by his old friend **Nick Johnstone**, Principal of Toowoomba Anglican School, to explore how **AI is reshaping the future of education**. They dive into the role of schools in a world where every student might have access to unlimited knowledge in their pocket, how teachers’ responsibilities may shift toward mentorship and motivation, and whether schools are even necessary when AI tutors can personalize learning better than any human. The conversation ranges from the challenges of managing devices in classrooms, to what employment might look like in a post-AI economy, to whether robots might one day replace teachers. Along the way, they touch on the social role of schools, legislative drag, the fate of universities, and even sneak in a nostalgic chat about Alice Cooper. Cameron: [00:00:00] welcome back to the Futuristic, uh, I’m doing this today. My name is Cameron Reilly. For new people doing this without my usual partner in crime, Steve Sammartino, because he’s off doing a keynote somewhere, said he couldn’t make it as is his usual want. But, uh, I’m being joined instead today by an even older friend of mine than Steve. I’ve known Steve 20 years. Nick and I go back 30. Five years, probably. How old are we? 55, 83. Nick Johnstone, principal of Toowoomba Anglican School. Uh, recently crowned, uh, the principal of Toowoomba Anglican School. Previously principal of other schools, but yeah, Nick and I go back to grade eight. In Bundaberg and, uh, I, I, I invited [00:01:00] Nick to come on. I sent him an article I wrote recently on some of my thoughts and prognostications about the future of schooling and education in a world of ai. And Nick gave me some great feedback and I said, come on and let’s chat about it. One of the things, welcome Nick, by the way, welcome to the show. As people can tell, I took all of Nick’s hair over the years and, um. Nick Johnstone: at some, at some point we had equal hair, but th...
Futuristic #44 – AI Agents, Robots and Car Sales
1 hr 7 min
In episode 44 of Futuristic, Cameron and Steve dive into the dawn of the embodiment era of AI. Steve reveals he’s purchased a $16,000 humanoid robot — the K-Bot — to be delivered in December, marking his entry into the personal robotics revolution. The conversation expands into the future of open-source robotics, the potential for a robot skill-sharing app economy, and the economic implications of humanoid automation. Cameron shares his experiment with OpenAI’s new GPT Agents and explains where they fall short. They also explore a future where AI personal assistants act as b******t detectors during major purchases like buying a car. Finally, Cameron reads an NPR-style retrospective on IBM’s Watson, drawing a direct line from symbolic AI to today’s LLMs and speculating on a future hybrid model. Also – Cameron launches his AI consulting business, Intelletto. Cameron: [00:00:00] Okay, go. Gimme your intro. Steve: Steve. Austin. You gonna to say, gimme an intro again? Wait a minute. wait a Cameron: intro. Steve: Okay, I’ve got it. You ready? Cameron: Yeah. Steve: We Cameron: Give it to me, Steve. Steve: Oh, we have the technology. Steve Austin. A $6 million man who is better than every human in every way. In 1975, $6 million was required to build a humanoid robot who was the future. Now it barely gets you a wooden house with two bedrooms in a city in Australia. We’ve had a great reversal. First a humanoid was 6 million. Now it’s a house. Things are back to front. If you think you can predict the future technology sociology, then f*****g think again. Welcome to the futuristic.[00:01:00] Cameron: This is, uh, the futuristic episode 44, recording this on the 4th of August, 2025, pre GPT five, the days before GPT five, which we’re expecting to hit any day now, but there’s been a big few weeks since we last talked on the show. Steve, you and I have talked off the show off air, but on air it’s been a while. Steve: private Cameron: What’s, yeah. Tell me you’ve...
Futuristic #43 – The Lemming Race to Superintelligence
1 hr 1 min
In this fast-paced episode of Futuristic, Cameron and Steve dig into a wild week in AI and tech. Cam shares how he stunned futurist Peter Ellyard by using ChatGPT to generate a bold, original idea called “The Other Year” – a radical, identity-swapping sabbatical for all Australian adults. Steve loves it, but the discussion spins off into a brutal critique of political cowardice, economic inequality, AI translation workflows, and the geopolitics of the AI arms race. From Neuralink trials to Honda’s reusable rockets, from AI-generated music to legal rulings on copyright, this one covers everything. Is AI stealing jobs or creating new ones? Are we on the edge of a superintelligent revolution—or just in a corporate lemming race off a cliff? Audio of FUT 43 [00:00:00] Cameron: Sure. My other, yeah. Uh, welcome back to the Futuristic episode 43. According to my notes, Steve Samino my, um, AI transcription engine in Descrip. Never, never likes having to work with your name after all these months and years of doing it. It’s likes So what? Summer Chi Chico, what Never gets it Right. Doesn’t get my name right either. So don’t feel bad. Steve: Look bias. Ai, ai, Italian racism is what we are hearing here. And I just wanna point that out, Cameron: Systemic. Steve: it’s systemic. Cameron: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve: the mob got us and now the technocratic mob, they’re after us Again, Cameron: What’s the Italian version of anti-Semitic? Is it anti [00:01:00] tic and. Steve: I don’t like logs. It’s, Cameron: Any wog. I called you a wog on the last episode. Steve: for it. We don’t, we don’t, we don’t like your type around here. Cameron: Well, it’s been a crazy week, Steve, um, in AI and tech and all of that. It’s just so crazy. But I wanted to start with something if, if you don’t mind. I mentioned last time that my friend Peter Ard, 88 years old, um, futurist, um, has was, was in Brisbane with his partner Robin. Had a lovely time with him, but had a lot of con conversa...
Futuristic #42 – The Jobpocalypse
59 min
In Episode 42 of The Futuristic, Cameron and Steve dive deep into the chaotic beauty of 2025’s AI evolution—and cultural regression. They open with a debate about Dr. Who, scarves, and wogs, before rapidly spinning out into their usual high-octane synthesis of tech, politics, relationships, and dystopian laughs. This week, it’s all about whether AI video is fake (or too real), the future of humanoid robots, how ChatGPT is becoming a marriage counsellor, and the looming collapse of white-collar work. Plus, Cameron drops a 90s-style AI rap, Steve defends plumbers against the robot uprising, and the boys seriously consider launching “Elongate”—Elon Musk’s red-pill boner brand. You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll question your humanity. Again. [00:00:00] Cameron: Futuristic Cameron Reilly and Steve Sammartino in, episode 42. I think maybe, um, Steve, you just told me off air before we came on that you’ve never watched Dr. Who, because you’re wearing a very Tom Bakery scarf here. I said, oh, it’s the fourth doctor. And you were like, what? And I’m like, no, really? Uh, I know you come from a, a, a wog family, Steve, but doctor who wasn’t a thing growing up in your, in your house. Steve: you even, can you even say that? that’s Cameron: I dunno, Steve: Sist. Cameron: were you offended? Are you offended by, uh, being called a W Steve: look, Cameron: mate? I would’ve loved to have been a wog Steve: this is not, a social podcast or one that into, uh, non-technological things. Cameron: mate. I would’ve Steve: offended. Cameron: grown up as anything. Yeah. Steve: That’s why Cameron: Reminds me of. Steve: little good, a little bit of a. Sniffle. Cameron: [00:01:00] Um, Steve: I haven’t watched Dr. Who I was a big fan of Star Trek Next Generation with pika. I think that was the ultimate sci-fi series. But I haven’t watched Dr. Who, so I can’t really say, and I. With all the things that are still on my to watch list, I don’t think I’ll get to it unfortunately. on...
Futuristic #41 – The 3 S’s and the One Big Beautiful Lie
1 hr 5 min
In this no-holds-barred episode of _Futuristic_, Cameron and Steve riff on the explosive Musk–Trump bromance breakup, likening it to the fall of the Roman Republic’s first triumvirate—yes, molten gold makes a cameo. They dissect the potential death of democracy via Section 70302 of Trump’s new bill, the myth of AI regulation in the U.S., and whether AGI is already here. Steve introduces his “Three S’s of Sentience” while Cameron defends LLMs as sanity check partners. They debate whether Sam Altman is sounding the alarm or just building the bomb. Plus: shrunken-head humans, punk rock AI songs, and China’s “Three Body” space supercomputer. It’s wild, it’s weird, it’s wicked smart. ### **Timestamps & Segment Breakdown** – **00:00** – Cameron vs. Steve: FUPO or FUP? Naming the post-truth age – **01:00** – Musk & Trump: The “Dumvirate” falls apart – **03:00** – Ancient Rome parallels: Pompey, Crassus, Caesar… and Elon – **06:00** – Who’s more powerful: The billionaire or the guy with the red pen? – **08:00** – Section 70302 and AI regulation ban in the “One Big Beautiful Bill” – **10:00** – Why AI regulation in the U.S. is a fantasy – **12:00** – Steve’s “Three S’s” of AI sentience: Self-awareness, preservation, direction – **16:00** – Professors vs. ChatGPT: Ancient History plagiarism wars – **19:00** – How to teach with AI: Real-world classroom hacks – **24:00** – Cameron’s fact-checking workflow with LLMs – **26:00** – Brain atrophy vs. augmentation: The Mind Gym – **29:00** – Fake Everything: Steve’s AI-generated punk song debut – **38:00** – VEO3 sketch comedy, sitcoms, and AI-generated content – **41:00** – AI-generated ads and the rise of synthetic influencers – **43:00** – Willy Wonka was a chocolate marketing gimmick? – **45:00** – Australia’s limp AI policy response – **47:00** – The Australian AI Expert Group: Missing in inaction – **49:00** – Sakana’s Darwin Gödel Machine: AI improving itself – **54:00** – Altman & Anthropic sound the “scar...
Futuristic #40 – Fake Until Proven (FUP)
1 hr 20 min
In episode 40 of Futuristic, Cameron and Steve explore the explosive arrival of Google’s **Veo 3**, the LLM-powered video generation tool that’s goign to turn Hollywood, music, porn, and propaganda inside out. They unpack the wild implications: from DIY Scorsese flicks and AI-generated pop stars to fully fake OnlyFans girls and AI avatars giving therapy to kids. Is this the death of apps? Of actors? Of reality? They get philosophical, irreverent, and disturbingly specific — complete with dragon porn, AI girlfriends, fake war crimes, and prompt theory as existential poetry. Strap in. ### **Timestamps & Segment Breakdown** – **[00:00–02:00]** Catching up and Cameron’s chat with an AWS exec about open-source LLMs – **[02:00–04:00]** OpenAI’s acquisition of Jony Ive’s firm; Google’s Veo 3 announcement – **[04:00–07:00]** The death of Hollywood and rise of prompt-generated films – **[07:00–10:00]** VO3’s game-changing videos and philosophical implications – **[10:00–12:00]** AI characters expressing regret over their prompts — horror and satire – **[12:00–15:00]** Prompt Theory video by a Reddit user stuns everyone, not Google – **[15:00–18:00]** The creative future: filmmakers as prompt engineers – **[18:00–21:00]** Google’s comeback and Apple’s stagnant AI progress – **[21:00–23:00]** Death of apps? Nadella says yes. Are GPTs the new OS? – **[23:00–26:00]** Merging AI with productivity: the single-tool future – **[26:00–31:00]** Five predictions for creative and political transformation – **[31:00–34:00]** Will anyone care about real actors anymore? – **[34:00–38:00]** The ABBA-tar future and the nostalgia-tech crossover – **[38:00–42:00]** The end of pop stars? Can AI musicians build fan intimacy? – **[42:00–46:00]** Will kids form relationships with AI-generated celebrities? – **[46:00–49:00]** Cameron’s son uses GPT for late-night anxiety relief – **[49:00–51:00]** AI autonomy: “I don’t think my character would do that” – **[51:00–56:00]** AI in p...
Futuristic #39 – Chapter 3: The AI Revolution Will Not Be Televised
40 min
After a six-week hiatus, Cameron and Steve return for a sprawling, charged conversation about AI, politics, ethics, and the future of civilization. Steve reveals he’s been 3D printing buildings for TV, while Cam unveils his bold new concept: _Chapter 3_, a movement to engineer the next phase of humanity before AI and robots rewrite society by default. They dig into Mirror World drift, political alignment tools, and why Australia isn’t even remotely ready for the revolution already underway. There’s talk of AI-led political parties, the death of Google search, capitalist collapse, and even starting a cult. Welcome to the next chapter. [00:00:00] Cameron: This is futuristic, episode 39, recorded on the 16th of May, 2025. Our first show in six weeks. Steve Sammartino Steve: I’m so sorry. I didn’t know it was that long, but we’re back and Cameron’s in the house ready to learn as good, including English and grammar. Cameron: Well, look, there’s been a whole lot of things going on, um, in the world of tech and AI in the last six weeks since we’ve been busy doing other stuff. Steve, do you wanna gimme a quick burst of, uh, what you are proudest of tech-wise in this period, but since we last spoke? Steve: Yes, so I have, uh, been doing 3D printing for a national TV show printed. Five buildings in five days. I can’t say who it is, but its initials are the block. So that is Cameron: So it’s not your TV show. I thought this was your TV show. [00:01:00] You, Steve: mine. Cameron: doing it for Steve: Yeah. Look, I, I think I can tell people I can’t show anyone anything, but, uh, Cameron: five buildings. Steve: Yep. In five Cameron: This is with, uh, what’s the name of your Steve: A Cameron: building, c. Steve: 3D with Tommy Cameron: That’s right. Steve: named after him because I’m not an egocentric guy. And, uh, this could be the breakthrough we’ve been looking for. ’cause we’ve, uh, we, uh, Cameron: O 3D doesn’t sound as good. Sam O 3D isn’t as good as macro...
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