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Behind every infamous news story is a journalist trying to hold power to account. Join reporters Vanessa Grigoriadis, Gabriel Sherman, and Natalie Robehmed as they take an in-depth look at the most explosive scandals of this century. From high-profile divorces to sex cults to the lies that started a war, they’ll guide you through the juiciest, most outrageous, celeb-filled stories of the last two decades, and give you a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to shine an unflattering light on the world’s most powerful people. A Campside Media & Sony Podcast Production. To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email: podcastadsales@sonymusic.com. To connect with Infamous's creative team and gain access to behind the scenes content, join our community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visitmegaphone.fm/adchoices

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Encore: Kylie’s Legal and Business Troubles

32 min

With former employees now suing Kylie over alleged workplace violations, Vanessa and Natalie revisit the old Kylie Cosmetics scandal. Listen to Part 2 and Part 3 on Apple Podcasts. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Introducing Adam Grant: How to Feel Less Lonely and Build Deeper Connections from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast BUY THE BOOK! Vibe: The Secrets of Strong Connections in a Lonely World  https://link.amazon/B0cQd5ZWG Adam Grant, bestselling author and organizational psychologist joins the Podcast to talk about his new book Vibe: The Secrets of Strong Connections in a Lonely World. Adam Grant explains the science behind human connection and the surprising secrets about what it means to create a “vibe” with another person. He shares why some people instantly click, while others struggle to connect. Oprah and Adam talk to NASA astronaut Cady Coleman who explains how she learned to vibe and ultimately trust members of her crew before a near shuttle disaster in outer space. NBA Legend Joe Dumars explains how he creates a vibe on his professional basketball team, even though he’s known for seeking out the most difficult and volatile players. Adam Grant talks about the “snap judgements” we all make in our lives, including one he made with vulnerability researcher Brené Brown that caused a four year rift between them. From marriage, family and friendship Adam Grant offers some surprising discoveries for anyone looking for deeper connections, stronger bonds and healthy ways to Vibe. 00:00:00 - Welcome Adam Grant, author of “Vibe” 00:05:00 - Human connection is missing 00:06:00 - Pebbling definition 00:08:38 - Rapid high-quality connection  00:10:20 - Welcome Astronaut Cady Coleman 00:15:45 - Connection saves their lives in space?  00:17:47 - Vibing with coworkers 00:20:00 - Welcome NBA legend Joe Dumars  00:22:30 - Joe on working with difficult players  00:25:20 - Friction can be good  00:27:30 - Finding genuine friendship 00:30:45 - Happier with friends than family 00:31:30 - Judgements can block connection 00:32:30 - Adam Grant and Brene Brown  00:34:50 - Adam’s marriage  Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ htt...

The Instagram Feud That Ended in a 40-Year Punishment

41 min

Emily Gellis went after diet guru Tanya Zuckerbrot on Instagram. Now she’s paying for it—literally, for the next 40 years. Vanessa and Natalie ask influencer and commentator Meredith Lynch from the podcast The Moment LIVE to explain how a fight over fiber turned into an epic legal battle. If you want to talk to Natalie and Vanessa, follow us on our new Instagram at @infamouspod⁠⁠! Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Encore: Kylie’s Legal and Business Troubles

32 min

With former employees now suing Kylie over alleged workplace violations, Vanessa and Natalie revisit the old Kylie Cosmetics scandal. Listen to Part 2 and Part 3 on Apple Podcasts. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Introducing Adam Grant: How to Feel Less Lonely and Build Deeper Connections from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast BUY THE BOOK! Vibe: The Secrets of Strong Connections in a Lonely World  https://link.amazon/B0cQd5ZWG Adam Grant, bestselling author and organizational psychologist joins the Podcast to talk about his new book Vibe: The Secrets of Strong Connections in a Lonely World. Adam Grant explains the science behind human connection and the surprising secrets about what it means to create a “vibe” with another person. He shares why some people instantly click, while others struggle to connect. Oprah and Adam talk to NASA astronaut Cady Coleman who explains how she learned to vibe and ultimately trust members of her crew before a near shuttle disaster in outer space. NBA Legend Joe Dumars explains how he creates a vibe on his professional basketball team, even though he’s known for seeking out the most difficult and volatile players. Adam Grant talks about the “snap judgements” we all make in our lives, including one he made with vulnerability researcher Brené Brown that caused a four year rift between them. From marriage, family and friendship Adam Grant offers some surprising discoveries for anyone looking for deeper connections, stronger bonds and healthy ways to Vibe. 00:00:00 - Welcome Adam Grant, author of “Vibe” 00:05:00 - Human connection is missing 00:06:00 - Pebbling definition 00:08:38 - Rapid high-quality connection  00:10:20 - Welcome Astronaut Cady Coleman 00:15:45 - Connection saves their lives in space?  00:17:47 - Vibing with coworkers 00:20:00 - Welcome NBA legend Joe Dumars  00:22:30 - Joe on working with difficult players  00:25:20 - Friction can be good  00:27:30 - Finding genuine friendship 00:30:45 - Happier with friends than family 00:31:30 - Judgements can block connection 00:32:30 - Adam Grant and Brene Brown  00:34:50 - Adam’s marriage  Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ htt...

The Instagram Feud That Ended in a 40-Year Punishment

41 min

Emily Gellis went after diet guru Tanya Zuckerbrot on Instagram. Now she’s paying for it—literally, for the next 40 years. Vanessa and Natalie ask influencer and commentator Meredith Lynch from the podcast The Moment LIVE to explain how a fight over fiber turned into an epic legal battle. If you want to talk to Natalie and Vanessa, follow us on our new Instagram at @infamouspod⁠⁠! Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Elizabeth Holmes: Is She Conning Nathan Fielder, or Is He Conning Her?

59 min

Did Nathan Fielder expose Theranos’s Elizabeth Holmes—or exploit her? Vanessa and Natalie disagree about his new documentary, You Can See Everything, which follows the blood-testing startup founder before she starts an 11 year prison sentence for defrauding investors. Tech writer and guest host of Hard Fork, Max Read, joins the debate, while New York Times reporter, Erin Griffith, separates the Theranos facts from the fiction. If you want to talk to Natalie and Vanessa, drop us a line on Instagram at @infamouspod! Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is Elon Musk Running a Fertility Cult?

43 min

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Elon Musk is a negative force in the world, even if he started as a big thinker about cars and space and much more. A new Alex Gibney documentary explores the billionaire’s relationships with the women who have borne his 14 children—and the unusual arrangements that keep them connected. Vanessa and Natalie talk with the exceptional writer and podcaster Virginia Heffernan about Musk’s growing family and his obsession with making more babies.For more from Virginia, check out her Substack and listen to her podcast. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Let’s Talk About Tom Cruise and Scientology

44 min

This week on Infamous, Vanessa and Natalie look at Cruise’s rise within Scientology and what the church has allegedly meant for his career and personal life. Our guest is Julian Walker, the co-host of Conspirituality Podcast, which investigates the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence, to uncover cults, pseudoscience, and authoritarian extremism. He is also co-author of the 2023 book, Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracies Became a Health Threat. Julian grew up under Apartheid in South Africa, and first became interested in cults and conspiracy theories during his 30+ years working in the yoga and wellness industry in Los Angeles. His Patreon Bonus episode, Scientology’s Sci-Fi Religion is part of an extended series there called The Roots of Conspirituality, which traces a path from the 1840's Great Awakening on America’s East Coast, through new religious movements that evolve to incorporate yoga, reincarnation, enlightened gurus, UFOs and communication with aliens—culminating in the QAnon phenomenon, 180 years later. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We Have a Tupac Murder Verdict, But Did Diddy Order It?

33 min

We're off for a bit but will be back next week! Who killed Tupac? Thirty years later, a jury finally has an answer. Journalist Jeff Weiss joins Vanessa and Natalie to revisit Tupac and Biggie’s deadly feud, the lingering questions around Diddy, and the man whose own words helped put him behind bars. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Can Mark Zuckerberg Keep Facebook and Instagram Alive?

28 min

For years, Meta has insisted that it’s up to parents to keep kids safe online. But after an $18 billion settlement over allegations that its platforms harm young people, is that argument finally falling apart? TIME correspondent Naomi Nix joins Vanessa and Natalie to discuss. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tyra Banks’ Defamation Suit Against Netflix: Who Will Win?

41 min

Tyra Banks says Netflix manipulated her three-and-a-half-hour interview to make her look callous. Netflix’s response? Mostly: you of all people should know how editing works. Vanessa and Natalie unpack the legal battle and look back at Tyra’s very strange journey from supermodel to mogul, girlboss, novelist, and “hot ice cream” entrepreneur. For more, check out our ⁠other episode⁠ on America’s Next Top Model, where we discuss the show’s biggest controversies and Tyra's role in them. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Continuing Fallout of the Coldplay Kiss Cam

42 min

We are off next week but will be back the following one with an all new episode. We all saw the Coldplay kiss cam. But what happened to Kristin Cabot after the internet moved on? And why haven't there been big viral moments like this in 2026? New York Times correspondent Lisa Miller joins Vanessa and Natalie to talk about the woman behind the meme, and the brutal consequences of going viral. Read Lisa’s excellent article, “The Ritual Shaming of the Woman at the Coldplay Concert.” Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What Is There To Say About Ariana Grande?

42 min

With guest Brittany Spanos, writer of the wonderful BRIT POP Substack, we discuss how Ariana Grande’s rise from Nickelodeon star to one of the biggest stars in the world has been packed with ambition, reinvention, and pop hits. These days, her album Petal is hitting #1, but she’s also announced she’s stepping back from public life. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Paris Hilton’s Pre-Y2k Era: Part 2

36 min

Vanessa and Natalie talk to Lara Marie Schoenhals of Sexy Unique Podcast about her own experience at The Cascade School—as well as Paris’s. They also discuss how incredible it is that Paris had endured several troubled teen schools before she appeared as a sheltered ditz on The Simple Life. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Paris Hilton’s Troubled Teen School Shut Down by the State of Utah

34 min

When Paris Hilton publicly revealed the abuse she says she endured at Provo Canyon School, it ignited a movement—and now, that school is closed. Journalist Maia Szalavitz joins Vanessa and Natalie to talk about how she exposed the industry’s hidden world in her landmark book, Help at Any Cost: How the Troubled-Teen Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids. We talk to Maia about what Paris’s story changed, what it didn’t, and why the fight for accountability is far from over. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Manfluencer Andrew Tate And His Brother Arrested In Miami

37 min

Andrew Tate built an online empire by selling young men a fantasy of wealth, dominance, and absolute power over women. But behind the cartoonish “pimp” persona, prosecutors allege something way darker: a sprawling human trafficking operation. New Yorker investigative reporter Heidi Blake joins Vanessa and Natalie to discuss her excellent article, “Andrew Tate’s Empire of Abuse.”Since this conversation was recorded, the brothers have been arrested in Miami and are fighting extradition to the UK, where they now face dozens of criminal charges. Both men deny wrongdoing. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle Controversy and the Rest of the Internet Fake?

33 min

When Sydney Sweeney’s “great jeans” ad ignited accusations of coded messaging, was it a genuine cultural firestorm—or the predictable outcome of an algorithm that rewards outrage above all else? Lane Brown from New York magazine joins us to talk about the rise of “clipping” and his amazing feature story, The Feed is Fake. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why Are Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s Kids Dropping “Pitt” from Their Names?

28 min

The Brangelina divorce has lasted far longer than the marriage itself. Nearly a decade after Angelina Jolie filed for divorce from Brad Pitt, the former couple is still locked in a bitter fight over custody, money, and their French vineyard. Now, some of their children appear to be dropping “Pitt” from their names. This week, Natalie and Vanessa unpack how one of Hollywood’s most famous love stories became one of its messiest family feuds.Have thoughts about Brangelina’s ongoing Rosé War? Follow us on our new Instagram @infamouspod and let us know what you think! Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com or follow us on instagram @infamouspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Are Elon and Katy Perry Really Going to Colonize Space?

38 min

The new space race isn't between nations but rather between billionaires. With our guest Tim Higgins of the Wall Street Journal, we unpack how Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk turned a decades-old dream of private spaceflight into one of the fiercest rivalries in business, as rockets, fortunes, and outsized personalities collide. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is Oprah’s Book Club Pick Really a True Story?

39 min

Amy Griffin's bestselling memoir The Tell was celebrated by Oprah and Reese Witherspoon as a powerful story of recovered memories, trauma, and healing, until a lawsuit was filed more recently. In this episode, we discuss The New York Times stories on the topic, and unpack the controversy surrounding Griffin. Griffin's attorney has defended her and called the lawsuit bogus, saying “we look forward to exposing these meritless claims in court, as well as the deeply flawed New York Times reporting that is at the center of it.” Since this episode was recorded, Amy Griffin has filed suit in Nevada. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Update: Matthew Perry, A Lost Friend

36 min

Matthew Perry was a beloved star making a million dollars an episode on Friends. But he could never shake his addiction to drugs, and died at 54 after taking ketamine in his backyard hot tub. Now, the criminal case tied to his death has wrapped, with his assistant, doctors, dealers, and the so-called “Ketamine Queen” sentenced for their roles. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Scandals Behind ChatGPT

38 min

You may use ChatGPT or Claude every day, but how much do you know about the guys running those companies? One of them, Sam Altman, has come under a ton of fire recently. He transformed OpenAI from a nonprofit lab into one of the most powerful and controversial companies in Silicon Valley, raising billions in funding and steering the development of ChatGPT into a product used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. But Andrew Marantz, staff writer at The New Yorker, spent 18 months co-authoring an article with Ronan Farrow that asks if he can be trusted. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How Kim Kardashian Turned Us All Into Content Creators

39 min

This week on Infamous, author M.J. Corey joins Vanessa and Natalie to talk about her provocative new book, Dekonstructing the Kardashians: A New Media Manifesto. Together, they unpack how the Kardashian era reshaped faces via plastic surgery, and about the way ordinary people document, brand, monetize, and perform their own lives online. For more from MJ, follow her on Instagram: @mjcorey. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Blake Lively v. Justin Baldoni - The Case That Won’t End

48 min

In this episode, Reeves Wiedeman of New York Magazine joins us to unpack what was supposed to be the end of the legal battle between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni — a feud that has spiraled far beyond Hollywood gossip into a full-scale public war. We get into the PR maneuvering, internet pile-ons, and whether the case is really over, or if it'll still be going through the courts. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Other Rich Fight: Alex Cooper and Her Very Unwell Empire I Part 5

43 min

Vanessa and Natalie dive into how the Real Housewife playbook morphed into pop culture. They talk about Alex Cooper, Alix Earle, podcast empires and TikTok overexposure: how are young women navigating ambition, romance, and public scrutiny in real time? Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rich Utah Wives and Their Scams I Part 4

41 min

Jen Shah may be off our screens, but scandal among Mormon influencers is having a second life — from tradwives and Ballerina Farm to discourse to the chaos surrounding Taylor Frankie Paul. Amy Kaufman, author of best-selling book Bachelor Nation, talks to us about the Bachelorette situation, plus there's new stars and new controversies. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rich Utah Wives and Their Scams | Part 3

32 min

In part three, Vanessa and Natalie turn to the fallout: Jen Shah’s explosive arrest, the cast’s on-camera reactions, and the victims waiting to tell their stories in court. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rich Utah Wives and Their Scams I Part 2

34 min

We dive into the larger culture of wealth, influence, and illusion surrounding  Jen Shah and Utah’s elite, where ambition, religion, and money collide in surprising ways. Neither Jen Shah nor Koa Johnson granted interviews for this episode. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rich Utah Wives and Their Scams I Part 1

36 min

Before she served her time in prison, Jen Shah was made for reality TV—but behind the designer clothes and explosive one-liners was something much darker. In part one of this series, Vanessa and Natalie trace the beginnings of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star’s alleged scam through the story of Bridget Knight, a former special ed teacher who thought she was building a fresh start online. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Encore: Murder at Lululemon | Part 1

31 min

Lululemon built its brand on positivity, goal-setting, and high performance, but in 2011, a Bethesda, Maryland store became the scene of a brutal, high-profile murder. In the first episode of this four-part series, Vanessa and Natalie examine the crime scene and share audio from police files. Listen to Part 2 here. Then, listen to Part 3 and Part 4. For more on the case, see Dan Morse’s The Yoga Store Murder. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Out Now: Crime Scene Weekly — Unforgettable True Crime Stories

1 min

From The Binge, ⁠Crime Scene⁠ plunges you into stories you can’t stop thinking about—revisiting cases that deserve a second look. Join Jonathan Hirsch (My Fugitive Dad, Dear Franklin Jones) and investigative reporter Cooper Moll as they crack open overlooked details, challenge the official narrative, and uncover what others missed. Each episode delivers the depth of a true crime mini-series in a single, gripping listen. If you’re drawn to unresolved mysteries and stories that stay with you long after they end...this is for you. Follow ⁠Crime Scene⁠ wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Subscribers to The Binge+ can listen ad-free, in addition to our network of limited series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Bizarre Boston Case of Karen Read

39 min

Karen Read was acquitted of murdering her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O’Keefe — but the case is far from over. This week, Natalie and Vanessa talk with journalist and podcaster Rebecca Lavoie about the snowstorm death that turned into a referendum on police power, small-town loyalty, and who gets believed when facts are murky. As civil suits ramp up on both sides, they examine the controversial case. For more from Rebecca, check out her podcasts Crime Writers On…True Crime Review and Something’s Off Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twin Flames Universe Today and Dating App Burnout

41 min

How do looksmaxxing, Clavicular, and incels connect to Twin Flames? This week, Vanessa and Natalie speak with journalist Alice Hines, who explains that plus neurolinguistic programming (NLP), the self-help technique explored in her new podcast Mind Games, and how language itself can become a tool of control. She's also behind Desperately Seeking Soulmate: Escaping Twin Flame Universe about the online love cult built around the promise that your perfect cosmic partner is already out there. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Deepak Chopra, Oprah, and Jeffrey Epstein

37 min

Newly released Epstein files show thousands of messages between Jeffrey Epstein and wellness guru Deepak Chopra. What were they talking about—and why was Epstein so interested in consciousness and spirituality? Vanessa and Natalie are joined by Matthew Remski, co-host of the podcast Conspirituality, to unpack Chopra’s rise, the business of wellness, and why the world’s richest men keep turning to spiritual gurus.You can also check out Matthew’s other podcast, Antifascist Dad Podcast, and his forthcoming book of the same name. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Behind the Scenes of America’s Next Top Model

43 min

Updated with the correct link! America’s Next Top Model was our early-2000s obsession—until the rewatch era exposed disturbing content hiding in plain sight. Natalie talks to pop-culture journalist Bridget Armstrong, host of Curse of: America’s Next Top Model, about Tyra Banks’s role, the show’s most disturbing moments and why “winning” the series didn’t mean a modeling career. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Extra Episode: Les Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein

35 min

In addition to our regular episode this week, we’re dropping Episode 2 of Vanessa and Justine Harmon’s podcast Fallen Angel, “Emotional Content.” It’s about how Ohioan businessman Les Wexner, the richest man in that state, acquired the brand Victoria’s Secret and grew into the global sensation it is today — and the man who he was involved with financially, Jeffrey Epstein. Listen to the rest of the series here. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Encore: Who Was Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, Really?

49 min

Glynnis MacNichol, author of I’m Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself, returns to join Vanessa for a deep dive into Hulu’s buzzy new series Love Story, which chronicles the magnetic — and ultimately tragic — romance between John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette. Together, they unpack what the show gets right, where it leans into mythmaking, and why America remains so captivated by this iconic couple.Then, we play Vanessa and Glynnis’s earlier conversation exploring the real-life union that defined ’90s style and tabloid culture, along with their tragic death in a plane accident. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Crypto Criminals and The Soho Townhouse

36 min

Vanessa and Natalie talk to journalist Ezra Marcus about his viral New York Magazine story, “The Crypto Maniacs and the Torture Townhouse.” They unpack the rise of crypto “wrench attacks” and what one bizarre kidnapping case in Soho reveals about the new frontier of digital wealth. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Selena Gomez’s Failed Startup

50 min

This week, Vanessa and Natalie talk to The Cut writer Angelina Chapin about Selena Gomez and her mother Mandy Teefey’s mental-health startup, Wondermind. They discuss allegations from former staff and the pressures created when celebrity and mental health advocacy become a business. Read Angelina’s story, “What Happened at Wondermind?” and stay tuned at the end of the episode for more on mother-daughter estrangement from Vanessa’s podcast, So Your Parents Are Old. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beckham vs. Beckham

36 min

This week, Vanessa and Natalie dive deep into the Beckham family fallout. They talk to Lindsey Weber (Who? Weekly) about the tension, the wedding drama, and how celebrity families control narratives—until they can’t. For more on family estrangement in the modern era, check out Eamon Dolan’s The Power of Parting. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Encore: The OTHER Harvey Weinstein Scandal

27 min

If you’ve been listening to Dead Certain, the new show about the Martha Moxley murder, you probably know Andrew Goldman. But we had him on a couple years ago. He’s talking about Harvey Weinstein. Before  Weinstein’s serious crimes were exposed to the public, he was simply known for being a successful — and notoriously volatile — film producer. When Andrew Goldman attends the same ritzy event as Harvey, an altercation turns into a full-on fistfight. In his hilarious telling of the unbelievable true story, Goldman reflects on the disturbing ways powerful people have wielded control over the media. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why Roblox Is Everywhere Right Now

40 min

Vanessa and Natalie unpack the kid-centric platform that’s quietly reshaping advertising, culture, and online life. They talk with tech reporter Sam Biddle, who explains why Roblox feels less like a game and more like a vision of the internet’s future. For more, check out Sam’s article on Roblox. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Myth of Having It All

41 min

To celebrate the time of year when we all make resolutions to better our lives—and to understand why it can be so hard to follow through with them—Vanessa sits down with Wharton/UPenn economist Dr. Corinne Low, author of Having It All: What Data Tells Us About Women’s Lives and Getting the Most Out of Yours. They talk about why so many of us feel maxed out—especially women juggling kids, work, and aging parents—and what you can do to get things under control. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trust Me, I’m Gwyneth Paltrow

35 min

This week, Natalie talks to journalist and biographer Amy Odell about her new book, Gwyneth: The Biography, and Marty Supreme. They also discuss Gwyneth’s early Hollywood power plays, the Miramax years, and how Goop turned controversy into an empire. To hear more from Amy, check out her podcast Back Row with Amy Odell. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

ENCORE: Gwyneth Paltrow’s Ski Trial | Part 2

32 min

Gwyneth Paltrow takes the stand in her ski crash trial against a retired optometrist. But as new facts emerge, is it possible that Gwyneth could be one of America’s most-hated celebrities and also a brave defender of justice? Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

ENCORE: Gwyneth Paltrow’s Ski Trial | Part 1

31 min

For the holidays, we’re rerunning our story about a ski run mishap. Gwyneth Paltrow is as famous for her luxury lifestyle as she is for her movies. But when she collides with a man on a ski slope in Park City, Utah, she finds herself in a real-life high-end whodunnit, where fact is stranger than fiction. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Self-Care Is Awesome and Also a Scam

32 min

Fashion writer Amy Larocca joins Vanessa to unpack the modern wellness obsession—from expensive self-care gadgets to Ozempic and glow culture. They dig into Amy’s book How to Be Well: Navigating Our Self-Care Epidemic, One Dubious Cure at a Time and ask when wellness became a moral obligation. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Noah Wyle, The Pitt, and Hollywood’s Bloodiest IP Battle

38 min

Michael Crichton’s widow says HBO’s hit medical drama The Pitt is cashing in on her late husband’s creation, ER. Now, they are in court. New York Times reporter Nicholas Kulish joins Vanessa and Natalie to explain how Noah Wyle’s nostalgic reboot pitch turned into a massive battle.You can read the original story here. Also, listen to our episode on Mean Girls. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pharma Bro Martin Shkreli and a Mysterious Record Album

41 min

Investigative reporter and Gen-Xer Jason Leopold (Bloomberg News), and freedom-of-information lawyer Matt Topic, join Vanessa and Natalie to unpack how they dig government secrets out of the dark, from the $2 million sale of “pharma bro” Martin Shkreli’s one-of-a-kind Wu-Tang album to Epstein’s personal emails. Listen to Matt and Jason’s podcast Disclosure. You can also learn more about Matt’s legal work or read Jason’s weekly newsletter. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

OneTaste: The Startup That Went Too Far

42 min

Orgasmic Meditation was supposed to close the “pleasure gap.” Instead, it led to a federal indictment. Natalie talks to Bloomberg’s Ellen Huet, author of Empire of Orgasm: Sex, Power, and the Downfall of a Wellness, about the woman behind OneTaste and the explosive allegations that led to the startup’s downfall. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What Happened to Allison Mack After NXIVM?

44 min

Allison After NXIVM follows Smallville star Allison Mack from her early days as a child actor to her time spent in prison for her role in a sex cult. Listen to Natalie explore the experience of interviewing Allison. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Were the Puritans a Cult?

40 min

From the Puritans to QAnon, strange thinking has shaped America more than most of us realize. Natalie Robehmed talks with author Jane Borden about why our culture keeps breeding new cult-like organizations, and how to recognize the signs before it’s too late. Check out Jane’s book, Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives America. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Read Vanessa’s book, Blurred Lines: Sex, Power and Consent on Campus, and check out Natalie on Instagram at @natrobe To connect with Infamous's creative team, join the community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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