Cade Bradley

Intrinsically Ordered

A Philosophy , Society & Culture and Religion & Spirituality podcast Explicit

About the show

Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

Newest episodes

Why The Supreme Court Is Confused About Religious Freedom: St Mary's v Roy Oral Arguments Reaction

Nov 4, 2026 1 hr 30 min

The Supreme Court just heard oral arguments in a major religious freedom case involving Catholic schools, LGBTQ families, and Colorado's taxpayer-funded preschool program. Can Catholic schools receive public funding while refusing to admit children because their parents are gay? I'm joined by @cdamianwrites , a Catholic lawyer and writer, and Simon Kent-Fung, creator of the award-winning "Dear Alana" podcast, to break down the case, the oral arguments, and what this could mean for religious liberty in America. We discuss the Archdiocese of Denver's lawsuit against Colorado, the Becket Fund's legal strategy, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson's questions about racial discrimination, and why several Supreme Court justices seemed confused about what exactly they were being asked to decide. We also examine the Catholic Church's own teachings on unjust discrimination, the history of religious freedom cases like 'Employment Division v. Smith' and 'Carson v. Makin,' and whether this latest lawsuit could ultimately backfire on religious institutions. As someone who has spent years studying Catholicism, LGBTQ issues, and the intersection of religion and law, I think this case raises much bigger questions than simply who gets admitted to a Catholic preschool. Chris Damien: https://chrisdamien.substack.com Simon Kent Fong: https://simonkentfeng.com Subscribe to Intrinsically Ordered for more conversations about Catholicism, religious deconstruction, LGBTQ issues, and the law. 00:00 Welcome and Why Today 00:49 Case Overview Colorado Pre-K 02:12 Funding vs Discrimination Rules 03:31 Supreme Court Standards Explained 06:29 Colorado’s LGBT Religion Legal History 09:20 Neutral Laws vs Religious Animus 13:05 Why the Justices Asked Why Here 20:00 Crash Course Key Precedents 24:47 Culture War Optics and Real Families 30:11 Downstream Effects If Colorado Loses 37:20 Oral Argument Vibes and Justice Dynamics 45:35 Protected Classes and Catholic Teaching Tension 49:10 When Liberty Bac...

I'm an Agnostic. I Read Every Religion's Holy Book. | River Ward's Journey from Christian Apologetics to Agnosticism

Oct 21, 2026 59 min

What happens when you stop learning about other religions from Christian apologists and actually read their sacred texts? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I'm joined by River Ward (@SiennaRiverWard), a comparative religion content creator who has spent years studying the Bible, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, Book of Mormon, and other foundational religious texts. Raised in conservative evangelical Christianity, River originally began studying other religions to defend her Christian faith. But the more she read, the more her understanding of God, religion, and belief began to change. We discuss what Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Daoism actually teach, how religious traditions understand God differently, and why the beliefs of religious practitioners don't always reflect their sacred texts. We also explore the limitations of Christian apologetics, the differences between religion and cults, the relationship between belief and belonging, and why River continues to find beauty in religion despite identifying as agnostic. Follow River Ward: Instagram: @sienna.river.ward YouTube: @SiennaRiverWard 00:00 Comparative Religion Online 01:23 What Counts as Religion 04:29 From Apologetics to Anthropology 10:00 Reading the Core Texts 14:26 Paradigm Shifts in Daoism 21:24 Confucius to the Gita 26:10 Revisiting the Quran 31:53 Text Versus Tradition 36:57 Mormonism and Upanishads 43:10 What Does Belief Mean 47:44 Defining God and Experience 53:39 Whats Next in Her Journey 58:09 Charity as the Heart To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Can You Be Catholic And A Feminist? | Salina.Bear On Birth Control and Women's Rights

Oct 14, 2026 1 hr 8 min

In this episode, I sit down with Catholic feminist, lay theologian, and spiritual director-in-training Salina Bear to talk about her unlikely journey from Reformed Protestantism, through deconstruction, and ultimately into the Catholic Church. Salina shares how growing up with Calvinist ideas about God led her to question Christianity from an early age, why she eventually stepped away from organized religion, and how an existential crisis during COVID unexpectedly brought faith back into her life. She also tells the story of attending Eucharistic adoration for the first time convinced she needed to become Catholic. We also get into some of the questions that have made Selena's online work controversial: Can you be a Catholic feminist? What does the Church actually teach about primacy of conscience? Can faithful Catholics disagree with Church teaching? Is contraception an infallible teaching? And why does online Catholicism often look so different from the Catholicism people actually encounter in their parishes? Finally, we talk about her marriage to an Orthodox Christian, spiritual trauma, deconstruction and reconstruction, online traditionalism, and why Salina is training to become a spiritual director for people who want to heal from harmful experiences with Christianity without necessarily abandoning their faith. 00:00 Meet Salina Bear 02:49 Growing Up Reformed 03:53 Calvinism and God Image 07:29 Teen Faith and Doubts 09:02 Church Leadership Disillusionment 13:43 Stepping Away to Deconstruct 15:01 COVID Panic and Return to Prayer 20:41 First Mass and Liturgy Surprise 22:33 Adoration Changed Everything 26:47 Catholic and Orthodox Marriage 35:53 Two Traditions Marriage 39:51 Conscience and Autonomy 41:40 Online Trad Toxicity 44:24 Birth Control & Forming Conscience 56:46 Reading Church Authority 01:03:13 Becoming Spiritual Director To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.c...

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Why The Supreme Court Is Confused About Religious Freedom: St Mary's v Roy Oral Arguments Reaction

Nov 4, 2026 1 hr 30 min

I'm an Agnostic. I Read Every Religion's Holy Book. | River Ward's Journey from Christian Apologetics to Agnosticism

Oct 21, 2026 59 min

Can You Be Catholic And A Feminist? | Salina.Bear On Birth Control and Women's Rights

Oct 14, 2026 1 hr 8 min

Why Aquinas' Five Ways Fail: Two Ex-Catholics Debunk JesusAndWhatnot's "How The Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence"

Oct 7, 2026 2 hr 2 min

In this episode of Apostate’s Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Jesusandwhatnot’s video titled "How the Communist Manifesto Proves God's Existence," explanation of Aquinas’s famous Five Ways: the arguments from motion, efficient causality, contingency, degrees of perfection, and final causality. We dig into act and potency, infinite regress, first causes, divine simplicity, Aristotle, physics vs. metaphysics, and the assumptions hiding underneath these arguments. Even if we grant some version of a “first cause” or “unmoved mover,” how do we get from there to an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving personal God, much less the God of Christianity? Along the way, we ask whether Aquinas’s arguments describe reality, whether confusing someone with technical philosophical language actually proves anything, and why arguments that have been debated for centuries are still sometimes presented as obvious and uncontested proofs of God. Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOZcbNeKIE 00:00 Who Is Jesusandwhatnot 09:33 Aquinas Five Ways Intro 10:26 Motion Proof Explained 13:47 Potency and Ontology Debate 26:10 Causation Chain and Regress 31:50 Physics Pushback and Forces 34:03 Nothing Truly Begins 36:32 From Prime Mover to God 39:46 Special Pleading and Language 41:02 Perfection Smuggled In 52:29 Efficient Cause Argument 54:23 Physics vs Metaphysics Definitions 01:01:59 Infinite Regress and Cosmology 01:06:18 Contingency and Nothingness 01:08:09 Third Way Rehash 01:12:58 Logic Above God 01:16:07 Blendered Proofs Critique 01:17:22 Degrees of Perfection Setup 01:20:49 Fire Causes Heat Debunked 01:23:13 Nominalism and Genus Problems 01:25:26 Goodness Category Errors 01:34:00 Begging the Maximum Cause 01:35:44 Fifth Way Explained 01:36:59 Teleology Meets Evolution 01:39:10 Ends Are Human Uses 01:45:38 Special Pleading Intelligence 01:49:36 Modern Physics Pushback 01:54:33 Summa Ethics Detour 01:57:52 Thomism As Party Trick To join our discord community for $1 or t...

Debunking: "Does Porn Make You Gay?" | What Psychological Studies Actually Shows About @JesusAndWhatnot's Claim

Sep 26, 2026 44 min

After seeing Catholic apologist Noah ( @Jesus.andwhatnot ) argue that pornography may cause homosexual desires, I decided to dig into the actual research. In this video, I work through more than two dozen academic sources covering sexual orientation, sexual identity formation, pornography use, childhood abuse, correlation vs. causation, sexual fluidity, and sexual orientation change efforts. I also explain some of the basic research concepts that can help us distinguish a provocative correlation from evidence that one thing actually causes another. As a gay former traditional Catholic apologist myself, I also want to talk about why these claims matter beyond an academic debate. Ideas about sexual orientation being caused or changed by particular behaviors can quickly overlap with claims underlying conversion therapy and sexual orientation change efforts. My sources: https://gayextrad.substack.com/p/debunking-with-actual-studies-does Noah's original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXtY2xa9lFQ 00:00 Does Porn Make You Gay? 01:17 It's Not a Study 01:34 Survey Not Study 01:58 Orientation Is Complex 03:44 Identity Attraction Behavior 05:54 Porn Survey Problems 12:32 Correlation Not Causation 14:43 How To Test It 17:17 Puberty And Timing 18:34 What The Data Show 21:54 Abuse Claim Reversed 28:04 Hypothetheory Critique 29:44 Disordered Language Harm 31:28 Conversion Therapy Harms 32:38 Causality And Methods 35:55 Expert Consensus Matters 41:12 Motte Bailey To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

No, The Resurrection Is Not A Historical Fact - Part 2 - Responding to Trent Doherty on Pints With Aquinas

Sep 23, 2026 1 hr 24 min

Is the resurrection of Jesus actually a historical fact or does the argument only work if you begin with Christian assumptions? In part two of our deep dive into the historical case for the Resurrection, Colin and I examine some of the most popular arguments used by Christian apologists: the claim that the apostles wouldn’t die for a lie, the supposed eyewitness accounts of the risen Jesus, the 500 witnesses mentioned by Paul, the early creed in 1 Corinthians 15, and attempts to use probability and Bayes’ theorem to argue that the Resurrection is historically likely. We look at what we actually know about the deaths of the apostles, how the resurrection narratives developed across the Gospels, what Paul does—and doesn’t—claim to have witnessed, and whether early belief in the Resurrection is the same thing as evidence that it actually happened. 00:00 Recap Minimal Facts 02:20 Escaping Apologetics Maze 03:55 Apostles Die for Lie 11:11 Roman Guards Doubts 24:10 500 Witnesses Problem 26:49 Women at the Tomb Motif 29:08 Doubting Thomas and Belief 31:32 Memory and Legend Growth 35:46 Mythic Tropes and Other Gospels 39:57 Paul and the 500 Witnesses 50:25 Visions and Bereavement Experiences 54:48 Skepticism About 500 56:52 Pauline Creed Timeline 01:02:37 Memory And Mythmaking 01:09:44 God Assumption Debate 01:11:20 Additive Evidence Claim 01:13:35 What Resurrection Means To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Coming Out Made Me A Stronger Man: Gym Culture, Masculinity, and Entrepreneurship | @SigurdAuthentic

Sep 16, 2026 1 hr 15 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with @SigurdAuthentic , founder of Gay Unmasked, to hear his coming out story and explore what it actually takes to accept that you're gay. https://www.skool.com/gay-unmasked-4697/about Sigurd opens up about recognizing his attraction to men as a teenager, falling for his male best friend, wrestling with stereotypes about gay men, and eventually reframing what being gay meant to him. We talk about masculinity, strength, CBT, shame, self-acceptance, dating, coming out to family and friends, and why building a life around purpose became so important after coming out. We also dig into the philosophy behind Gay Unmasked, Sigurd's growing community for gay men, and his argument that coming out shouldn't be about asking other people for permission to be yourself. 00:00 Coming Out Is Ongoing 02:15 Early Signs and Denial 04:19 Growing Up Around Masculinity 11:16 Accepting It at 18 13:25 Mac and First Real Feelings 18:16 Reframing Gay Identity 21:51 CBT and Strength Mindset 25:44 First Confession to a Friend 30:01 Coming Out to Dad and Friends 31:46 Tinder Screenshot Plot Twist 36:01 Strength as Shield 36:29 Gym as Emotional Outlet 38:40 Life Moves On Mindset 40:39 Unmasking and Alan Watts 47:06 After Coming Out Purpose 49:21 Redirecting the Fight 55:56 Dating Men and Identity 01:05:44 Community and CBT Coaching 01:11:33 Success Stories and Farewell To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

We Visited the Biggest Catholic Cult in America: The SSPX in St Mary's, Kansas (With Atheist Church Audit @Heliocentric and Mormons @AllThoseInFavor)

Sep 9, 2026 1 hr 7 min

I took an atheist and a Mormon on a road trip to St. Mary’s, Kansas to experience the SSPX firsthand. We attended a traditional Latin Mass, toured the massive Immaculata, talked with members of the community, and tried to understand what draws people to this intensely traditional form of Catholicism. Coming from three very different religious backgrounds (ex-traditional Catholic / current atheist, former Pentecostal / current atheist, and practicing Latter-day Saint), we each walked away with very different reactions. We talk about the beauty (and boredom) of the Latin Mass, Catholic tradition, relics, hell, Vatican II, the SSPX’s conflict with Rome, how outsiders are treated, and whether this community actually succeeds at its stated mission of saving souls. 00:00 Heliocentric & All Those In Favor 01:41 What Is the SSPX 03:24 Expectations Going In 05:03 Road Trip to St Marys 06:43 First Sight of the Church 08:22 Drone Shots and Suspicious Locals 10:12 Medieval Dinner and Hotel 11:34 Mass Morning and Naming the Building 13:35 Inside the Immaculata First Impressions 16:48 Silence Sunlight and Getting Shushed 18:41 Latin Mass Reactions 22:11 Relics and Ranking Spirituality 30:27 SSPX Identity and Excommunication Denial 33:28 Latin Mass Confusion 34:10 Sermon Advice: Read Books 39:24 Hellfire Afterlife 41:21 Communion Rail Awkwardness 45:59 Tour Guides And Lunch 52:55 Trad Culture And Politics 54:27 Human Stories And Mary 59:17 Seeker Friendly Critique 01:05:08 Final Takeaways Next Steps To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Is the Resurrection of Jesus a Historical Fact? Atheists Respond to EVERY Resurrection Claim - Part 1 - (Trent Dougherty on Pints With Aquinas Reaction)

Sep 9, 2026 1 hr 33 min

Can history actually establish that Jesus rose from the dead? In this episode of Atheist Imprimatur, Colin and I take on one of the central arguments in Christian apologetics: that the Resurrection isn't merely something Christians believe by faith, but something we have good historical reasons to accept as fact. We examine the “minimal facts” approach associated with Gary Habermas, claims about the empty tomb, eyewitness testimony, early Christian belief, and the role our assumptions about God and miracles play in evaluating the evidence. More importantly, we ask a basic question that often gets lost in apologetics: What can historians actually establish—and where does historical evidence end and faith begin? This is Part 1 of our very long attempt to answer that question. 00:00 Why This Resurrection Video 07:28 Apologetics as Reassurance 11:13 Faith Versus Evidence 13:06 Appeal to Authority Problems 23:22 God Exists Then Miracles 27:42 Supernatural Explanations Spiral 32:23 Is God Really 50/50? 34:11 Historians and Resurrection Claims 42:16 Easter Meditation Not Proof 44:38 Habermas and Minimal Facts 52:38 Three Es and Empty Tomb 56:46 Sherlock Holmes Historiography 01:00:57 Empty Tomb Sources and Context 01:04:17 Empty Tomb Objections 01:08:42 Why Not Produce the Body 01:10:53 Acts and Early Movement 01:13:35 Roman Religious Tolerance 01:16:17 Three Explanations Critique 01:21:35 Tomb Worship Skepticism 01:25:19 They Wouldnt Die for a Lie To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Left-Wing Influencers Share Why They Left Christianity: @OneHandPolitics @GregFromVideo1

Sep 2, 2026 1 hr 37 min

I sat down with ⁨@onehandpolitics⁩ and ⁨@GregFromVideo1⁩ to compare three very different journeys out of Christianity. We talk about growing up Catholic and Evangelical, youth group culture, religious colleges, belonging, political identity, critical thinking, and what life looks like after leaving faith behind. Rather than debating theology, we explore why people believe, why people leave, and what replaces religion once you've built your identity around it. Whether you're religious, deconstructing, or simply curious, I hope this conversation gives you something to think about. 00:00 Mason's Backstory 03:36 Greg Youth Group Spiral 06:46 Cade Catholic Roots 09:21 College Faith Cracks 12:58 Scientology and Critical Thinking 16:23 Mason Deconstruction Breakpoint 22:54 Politics Meets Religion 27:18 Biola Rules and Side B 31:54 Belonging Beyond Religion 38:19 Calvinism And NPC Thinking 44:47 Will Religion Keep Declining? 54:04 Is Atheism A Religion 58:23 BITE Model Control Tactics 01:03:28 In Groups Define Out Groups 01:08:23 Tribalism And Power 01:10:46 Which Atheists Irritate 01:27:54 Science Is Not Ethics 01:34:10 Religion Can Liberate To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

How My ADHD Made Me a Religious Extremist: From Joining Catholic Cults to Starting Medication This Year (Responding to Matt Walsh)

Sep 1, 2026 38 min

DISCLAIMER: None of today's video should be used as medical advice. I am not a doctor, nor do I have any degrees in psychology/medication/etc. Only take medication under the supervision of a licensed medical provider. After being diagnosed with ADHD and spending the past year on medication, I've started looking very differently at my years in traditional Catholicism, my love of religious debates, and even the way I built this YouTube channel. Matt Walsh recently commented that 'psychiatry has done nothing for us,' and I use that clip as a jumping off point in today's video. In this video, I explore my hypothesis that ideological conflict can sometimes function as stimulation for an ADHD brain. I talk about how Catholic ritual and structure genuinely helped me manage symptoms I didn't yet understand, why I kept gravitating toward increasingly extreme religious positions, and why confrontation became such a powerful source of stimulation for me. I also share, for the first time, my experience taking ADHD medication: the fears I had about medication, masculinity, addiction, and changing my personality—and what actually happened after a year of treatment. 00:00 - 1: Introduction 01:54 - Outline 02:09 - Disclaimers 03:02 - 2: What Does An ADHD Brain Look Like? 08:19 - 3: Why ADHD'ers Self-Medicate With Stimuli 10:29 - 4: My Hypothesis: Extremism As Self Medication 16:09 - 5: How Catholicism 'Helped' My ADHD 21:29 - 6: ADHD As An Atheist YouTuber 22:50 - 7: How I Got on ADHD Medication 32:24 - 8.1: How Meds Have Changed Me 34:45 - 8.2: What Meds Mean for My Channel 36:21 - 9: Meds Aren't Perfect To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Catholic Apologist Accidentally Makes The Case for Secular Morality: Reacting to Brian Holdsworth

Aug 26, 2026 1 hr 9 min

In this episode, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video "I'm Not Strong Enough to Be an Atheist." We unpack his portrayal of atheism through John Lennon and Nietzsche, discuss whether morality really requires God, and examine where we think his arguments miss the mark. Along the way we talk about humanism, socialism, religion, objective morality, Catholic apologetics, and what life after faith actually looks like. If you've ever wondered whether atheism inevitably leads to nihilism—or whether that's a false choice—this conversation is for you. 00:00 Back for Another Episode 02:00 Two Kinds of Atheism Setup 08:36 Commons Dilemma and Human Nature 10:42 Socialism and Incentives Pushback 17:55 Nietzsche and Moral Foundations 21:56 Objective Morality Debate 27:45 Master Morality and Power 31:58 Young Men and Nietzsche’s Appeal 34:32 Christianity vs Power Structures 38:06 No True Catholicism 42:34 Atheism Without Heroes 47:24 ADA and Mutual Benefit 48:46 Where Is the Thesis 49:37 Crusades and Contradictions 50:36 Nietzsche Illness as Gotcha 54:49 Capitalism and Collective Care To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Atheists, Here's How to Treat Joe Schmid After He Reverted to Catholicism.

Aug 24, 2026 17 min

Joe Schmid from ⁨@MajestyofReason⁩ announced that he has returned to Catholicism. As an agnostic/atheist YouTuber who left catholicism, I’ve been thinking about how people should respond when someone leaves their religious or ideological group. In this video, I lay out my “Ten Commandments” for responding to someone whose beliefs have changed. Drawing from my own experience leaving Catholicism and coming out, I talk about listening before arguing, taking people’s stated reasons seriously, respecting their autonomy, avoiding tribal “wins” and “losses,” and remembering that a person is always more important than the culture war surrounding them. I’ll have plenty to say about Joe’s arguments for Catholicism in future videos. But before we debate his reasons, I think atheists, Catholics, and everyone else should remember how to treat the person making the decision. 00:00 Joe Schmid Converts 01:06 1: Keep the Person First 02:57 2: Accept Change 04:43 3: Listen Twice 06:17 4: Define Words 07:43 5: Trust Reasons 09:03 6: Limited Knowledge 10:33 7:Lead With Empathy 11:22 8: Respect Autonomy 12:43 9: Stay Connected 14:47 10: Process Privately 16:04 My Next Video To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Ex-Priest Psychologist: The Hidden Psychology After Coming Out as LGBT

Aug 19, 2026 1 hr 7 min

Coming out is often portrayed as the happy ending—but for many people, it's only the beginning. In this conversation with former Catholic priest and licensed therapist Danny Peterson, we explore why so many LGBTQ people who come out later in life feel like they're reliving adolescence as adults. We discuss religious trauma, dating, therapy, identity, relationships, extended adolescence, ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), and what happens after the excitement of coming out fades into ordinary life. We also talk about why relationships don't magically become easy, why many people search for gurus or simple answers after leaving religion, and how learning to tolerate uncertainty can become one of the healthiest parts of healing. 00:00 From Priest to Therapist 03:55 Extended Adolescence Explained 09:52 Healthy Coming Out Skills 13:13 Values and Red Flags 18:09 Sex vs Relationship First 20:59 Finding Mentors and Community 28:21 The Coming Out Paradox 33:38 ACT and Moving Forward 41:30 Facing Hard Truths 46:42 Ditching Gurus Dogma 53:40 Therapy Expectations Reality 57:41 Allyship Religion Safeguards 01:00:16 Finding A Therapist 01:04:15 Private Practice Wrap Up To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why Anti-Gay Catholic Arguments Assume Everyone is Bisexual

Aug 12, 2026 1 hr 16 min

In this episode, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video asking whether "gay priests" are even a real thing. What starts as a discussion about labels quickly turns into a much bigger conversation about sexual orientation, Catholic theology, history, identity, and how the Church talks about same-sex attraction. We unpack the arguments, examine where we think the reasoning breaks down, and discuss why language matters when talking about real people. Along the way we dive into Pope Francis' comments on seminaries, the 2005 Vatican instruction on admitting men with same-sex attraction to the priesthood, ancient Greek sexuality, bisexuality, orientation, and why analogies don't always prove what people think they prove. 00:00 Pride Month Banter 01:06 Reacting to Brian Holdsworth 03:09 Pope Francis Quote Fallout 05:13 Ancient Rome Was Gay 08:20 Labels and Orientation Debate 13:54 Appetites and Identity Claim 17:49 Catholic Analogy Time 22:17 Cravings vs Human Love 25:04 Appetites Make You Gayer 31:55 Short Term Hookups Critique 35:46 Dehumanizing the Gay Label 38:15 Labels and Identity Sprawl 38:52 Paradox of Tolerance Rant 39:51 Honorary Gender Studies 40:38 Dodging the Priest Question 41:16 Chastity vs Gay Label 42:29 Church Policy Contradictions 44:29 Food and Gluttony Analogy 46:50 Spectrum and Ancient World 51:31 Frauds and Sacraments 55:10 Title Not Description Confusion 57:00 Trad Conspiracy Briefcase 01:00:02 Sponsor Break Real Estate 01:01:15 Why Labels Help Research 01:07:29 Why So Many Gay Priests 01:10:50 Growing Up Without Language 01:15:47 Landing the Plane Conclusion To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Hollywood Cinematographer Debunks "Miracle of the Sun" Photo | Our Lady of Fatima (re: Ethan Muse)

Aug 11, 2026 24 min

A Catholic priest (Fr Philippe Dalleur) and youtuber (Ethan Muse) have argued that shadows in photographs taken at Fatima in 1917 provide scientific evidence for extraordinary sources of light in the sky. So I spent more than 100 hours investigating the claim, since my entire job revolves around working with cameras and lighting as a cinematographer. 00:00 - A "Miraculous" Photo? 01:03 - How the Science Should Work 02:32 - What Was Our Lady of Fatima? 03:34 - Series Overview (Skip This) 05:08 - Lenses Loose a Dimension 08:56 - Reason #1: Can't Really Calculate a Lost Dimension 11:27 - How to Actually Calibrate Lenses 14:14 - Reason #2: Vintage Lenses Make It Even Harder 16:17 - The Third Dimension 18:10 - Reason #3: They Didn't Validate Their Methods 19:13 - Reason #4: Shadows Can't Really Be Measured 22:13 - Example Optics of Similar Scene 22:52 - Preview of Part 2: Lies in Development This is a three part series. Part 1 (this video) covers why lenses make these calculations almost impossible without calibration. Part 2 will cover their terrible development process and post-production deception. And then Part 3 will recreate the lighting effect they're talking about. Source #1: "Fatima Pictures and Testimonials: in-depth Analysis" published on March 8, 2021in Scientia et Fides (keep in mind, this is not a peer reviewed science journal, they claim it's 'peer reviewed' but the peers are humanities people) Source #2: "Fatima's Miracle Photo D115 - Sun Height Estimation" published on Sep 24, 2021 on the YouTube channel "BioPhilo" (I confirmed with Ethan that this is Dalleur's channel) Source #3: "Sun Elevation Evaluation Technique + HUD" published on Aug 10, 2022 on the YouTube channel "BioPhilo" Source #4: "Our Lady of Fatima" published on Sep 5, 2025 by Ethan Muse on his substack. Source #5: "It Wasn't the Sun!" published on Oct 10, 2025 by Ethan Muse on his substack. Source #6: "Catholic vs. Atheist: Was Fatima Miraculous?" of Ethan Muse and James Fodor on Jul 1...

Inside the SSPX: Former Member Explains the ENTIRE History and Excommunication of the Society of Saint Pious the X

Aug 5, 2026 1 hr 11 min

The recent SSPX excommunications have left a lot of Catholics—and even journalists—trying to understand what actually happened. In this episode, I sit down with Hunter, a former SSPX traditionalist (and also former sedevacantist seminarian), to unpack the history behind the headlines. We explain Vatican II, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the founding of the SSPX, the 1988 episcopal consecrations, the creation of the FSSP, and why Pope Leo XIV's decision is different from previous popes. We also discuss how traditionalist movements understand authority, conscience, and obedience, and why this controversy has been building for decades rather than weeks. 00:00 SSPX Excommunication News 00:55 Hunter’s Trad Journey 03:31 What Happened In July in Econe, Switzerland 05:34 Nuclear Excommunication Explained 09:02 Vatican II Basics 12:06 Lefebvre and SSPX Origins 16:12 Spirit of Vatican II Debates 21:33 Key Doctrinal Flashpoints 27:28 Subsistit In Controversy 30:28 1974 Declaration and Breakaway 33:50 1983 Split and Sedevacantists 36:04 Obedience Paradox and Fallout 36:57 Bad Commands vs Doctrine 37:42 Sedevacantists Inside SSPX 41:15 1988 Bishops and Split 44:17 Valid vs Licit Sacraments 46:51 Obedience Paradox and Conscience 57:54 July Consecrations Fallout 01:03:24 Will SSPX Radicalize 01:07:09 Future of Trad Groups 01:09:49 Wrap Up and Thanks To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why Do Catholic Influencers Excuse Right-Wing Catholics and Condemn Left-Wing Catholics?

Jul 29, 2026 1 hr 18 min

In this episode of Apostate Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video asking how to tell a "real" Catholic from a "fake" Catholic. What starts as a discussion about Catholic identity quickly turns into debates about language, gender, authority, and whether Catholic apologetics consistently apply their own standards. We discuss why so much Catholic YouTube feels like insider baseball, examine Brian's analogies about chairs, cars, and police officers, and argue that many conservative critiques of gender misunderstand what gender scholars are actually saying. Along the way, we talk about Catholic definitions, language change, trans identities, Church authority, and why some apologetic arguments seem persuasive only if you've never encountered the opposing viewpoint. 00:00 Episode Two Kickoff 01:20 Trad Cath Vibes and Profanity 02:33 Series Format and Feedback 05:12 Cue the Candace Owens Video 05:58 Catholic YouTube Insider Baseball 08:57 Cookie Break and Hot Takes 12:04 Who Counts as Catholic 13:21 Gender Detour What Is a Woman 23:33 Police Officer Analogy 30:00 Definitions Language and Power 34:18 Matter Form and Sacraments 38:11 Chair Example and Cake Chairs 38:58 What Counts as a Chair 39:19 Context Makes Words Work 40:19 Chairs and Trans Analogies 41:33 Form Matter and Sacraments 41:57 Car Parts and Functionality 44:35 Personhood Corpses and Souls 47:04 Uncanny Feelings Explained 49:42 Internal Bonds vs External Bonds 52:24 Defining Catholic Membership 57:06 Fake Catholic vs Not Catholic 01:03:56 SSPX and Legitimate Authority 01:10:29 Gender Debate and Word Games 01:17:10 Wrap Up and Next Video To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why Conservative Christian Should Oppose Conversion Therapy - Pieter Valk (LPC)

Jul 22, 2026 59 min

What if the conversation around Christianity and LGBT people is far more complicated than either side admits? In this episode, I sit down with therapist, author, and speaker Peter Valk (LPC) to explore one of the most difficult conversations happening in the Church today. We discuss conversion therapy, Side B Christianity, historic Christian sexual ethics, language surrounding sexuality and gender, why many churches struggle to talk about these topics well, and how pastors, parents, and Christians can approach these conversations with greater compassion and honesty. Whether you agree with Peter's conclusions or not, this conversation is about understanding the complexity behind the headlines and moving beyond culture-war talking points toward thoughtful dialogue. 00:00 Meet Peter Valk 03:49 Why This Should Matter for Both Sides 11:35 Labels and Language 14:56 Gender Terms Explained 17:40 Identity Label Debate 20:30 Pastors and Discomfort 23:08 Sacred Cows 25:57 Listening Without Fear 29:55 Coming Out Well 33:36 Respectful Questions 35:43 Resources to Learn 37:42 Practical Church Steps 42:14 Clear Welcome Messages 47:35 Conversion Therapy Warning 54:45 Long Term Support 58:01 Wrap Up and Where to Find To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why Online Catholics Are Fighting About Pre-Marital Kissing: Online Extremism and Toxic Saint Quotes

Jul 15, 2026 1 hr 40 min

In this episode, Colin, Kevin NonTradiCath, and I react to Christian Wagner and Noah/Jesus and Whatnots' argument that kissing before marriage is sinful and compare it with the historical sources he cites. Along the way, we explore the writings of St. Alphonsus Liguori, medieval and early modern Catholic sexual ethics, Christopher West, Theology of the Body, and whether Catholics can really claim that the Church has always taught one consistent moral framework. We also discuss how debates like this reveal a deeper issue: if Catholics still have to decide which saints, theologians, and authorities to follow, is Catholicism really as different from Protestantism as many apologists claim? 00:00 Podcast Intro and Chaos 00:59 Meet Kevin and the Premise 01:53 Can You Kiss Your Girlfriend 04:14 Why This Debate Matters 06:34 Who Is Christian Wagner 11:36 Watching the No Kissing Video 12:28 Laxity and Catholic Authority 16:14 Near Occasion of Sin Stories 20:57 Alphonsus Quotes and Sex Panic 23:53 Skipping Ahead to the Argument 26:20 Repression and Catholic Guilt 28:33 Kevin Pulls the Alphonsus Book 31:00 Who Was Alphonsus Liguori 32:13 Liguori Moral Doctor 34:03 Doctors You Cant Disagree 36:37 Modesty Of The Eyes 37:49 Dont Look At Women 47:54 Mortal Sin By Looking at Kids 50:03 Repression And Obsession 52:42 Modesty In Speech 55:16 Laughter Under Scrutiny 01:01:44 Fasting And Health Claims 01:04:35 Holy Lettuce Possession 01:06:59 Liguori And Extremes 01:07:57 Rules Over Harm 01:08:41 Drowning Rescue Caveats 01:11:37 Magisterial Minimalism 01:14:02 Three Tier Authority Critique 01:19:58 Fallible Framework Problem 01:20:27 No Infallible List 01:25:19 Back To Kissing Debate 01:26:53 Jimmy Akin Weigh Teachings 01:30:46 Protestantism With Extra Steps 01:34:04 Real World Harm 01:39:53 Final Takeaways And Goodbye To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the e...

Ex-Pastor Reacts to Famous Christian Pastor's Toxic Relationship Advice w/ Brian Recker

Jul 8, 2026 54 min

Christian marriage advice often sounds inspiring, but what happens when it encourages people to ignore compatibility, personal calling, financial realities, or even their own well-being? In this episode, I sit down with former evangelical pastor ⁨@BrianRecker⁩ to examine one of the biggest Christian relationship influencers online and unpack the messages behind his viral marriage advice. We talk about purity culture, patriarchy, complementarianism, having large families, fear-based theology, and how these ideas shape dating, marriage, and parenting in both evangelical and conservative Catholic circles. We also discuss why so much Christian relationship advice focuses on roles instead of people, how hell and religious fear influence life decisions, and what healthier, more equal relationships can look like after deconstruction. Read Brian's new book 'Hell Bent' - https://a.co/d/0ad4Sd2D Brian's substack: https://brianrecker.substack.com 00:00 Brian’s Evangelical Background 02:51 Fear of Hell and Assurance 05:23 Purity Culture and Sexual Shame 07:03 Who Is Ryan Miller 09:25 Love at First Sight Claims 11:57 Wife and Mom as Calling 17:07 Parenting Overwhelm and Pressure 22:48 Spiritual Bypassing and Big Families 30:01 Have More Kids Than You Can Afford 37:07 Comments Reveal the Harm 43:42 Hell as a Control Mechanism 47:05 A Healthier Christian Vision 48:33 Relearning Relationships Resources 52:33 Where to Follow Brian 54:03 Final Thanks and Wrap Up To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

How to Find a Spiritual Home During Deconstruction with @GospelSimplicity

Jun 17, 2026 1 hr 1 min

For years I assumed the choice was simple: Catholicism or Protestantism. But the deeper I looked, the more I realized there is an entire world of high church Christianity that most people never hear about. In this conversation, I'm joined by Austin from @GospelSimplicity to explore Anglicanism, Episcopalianism, Lutheranism, Orthodoxy, liturgy, tradition, deconstruction, and what options exist for people who are reevaluating Catholicism but still want to take Christianity seriously. We discuss why young Christians are rediscovering tradition, the appeal of high church worship, the differences between Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches, and practical advice for anyone trying to find a spiritual home after deconstruction. 00:00 Austin’s Faith Journey 02:50 Why Episcopalian And Not Catholic 06:27 Discovering Protestant Breadth 10:42 Protestant Label Explained 13:46 Why Gen Z Loves Tradition 19:31 High Church Protestant Map 28:00 Are Teachings Simpler 31:21 Anglican Openness to Doctrine 32:24 Brittle Faith and Flexibility 33:39 Episcopal vs Anglican Explained 35:53 Anglican Labels in America 38:40 Why People Convert to Orthodoxy 41:55 Orthodox Diversity and Trends 44:04 Advice for Deconstructing Catholics 49:20 Finding a Church Without Paralysis 54:03 Praying While Spiritually Homeless To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why I No Longer Call Myself An Atheist

Jun 1, 2026 17 min

When I was a traditional Catholic, I was taught exactly what atheism was supposed to be: lonely, meaningless, directionless, and ultimately incapable of providing a fulfilling life. Then I became an atheist myself. In this episode, I reflect on my journey from devout Catholicism to atheism and explain why I don't actually think atheism is a worldview at all. I talk about losing my faith, losing my community, searching for meaning, running ultramarathons, and eventually discovering that atheism wasn't a replacement for religion. 00:00 - Backstory 01:16 - What Catholicism Taught Me About Atheism 03:00 - I Never Wanted to Experience Atheism 05:33 - Atheism Was As Bad as I Was Told 07:03 - What An Alcoholic Ultramarathoner Taught Me 09:42 - Atheism is Nothing, Because It's Everything 11:26 - Atheism is Options - Not a Plan 12:46 - Atheism Gave Me Everything I Love 15:37 - The Irony of Ultramarathon Finish Lines To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why Catholicism Is Just Protestantism With Extra Steps - Atheist Imprimatur - Brian Holdsworth

May 19, 2026 2 hr 2 min

Today on the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, Colin returns for the first episode of our new reaction series: The Apostates' Imprimatur. We react to a video from ⁨@BrianHoldsworth⁩ titled “I’m Not Smart Enough to Be Protestant” and unpack some of the biggest questions surrounding Catholicism, Protestantism, authority, heresy, and the chaos of early Christianity. As two former traditional Catholics with years inside the Latin Mass world, we break down whether Christianity actually provides a reliable path to “truth,” whether Catholic authority solves the problems it claims to solve, and why debates about doctrine have existed since the earliest days of the church. We also dive into Protestantism, Catholic converts, church history, heresy, the Trinity, the Bible, and the strange world of online Catholic apologetics. 00:00 Podcast Return and Format 01:11 Colin’s Trad Catholic Background 09:33 Reacting to Protestant Confusion 35:17 Early Christianity Chaos 36:43 Paul and Church Authority 42:05 Gospel for the Poor 56:51 Unity as Proof 01:19:04 Trad Caths vs Authority 01:20:41 Interpretation Problem Returns 01:27:42 Canon History and Church Fathers 01:53:34 Hell Threat and Harm To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

I Watched Every Video by FORMER "De-Transitioner" Neeza Powers: Right-Wing Christian Celebrity

May 4, 2026 1 hr 21 min

I spent a week researching one of the internet’s most viral and controversial gender stories - someone who detransitioned, became a Christian influencer, and then ultimately transitioned again. In this video, I break down the full timeline, the psychology behind what happened, and how online religious communities, algorithms, and high-control dynamics may have shaped this journey in ways most people are completely missing. 0:00 - Conservative Meltdown 2:23 - Neeza's First Posts 11:15 - Her First Time at Church 18:10 - Christian Hate and Gender Dysphoria 30:31 - Becoming Catholic 49:55 - "Failing" Jesus 59:19 - Toxic Christian Responses 1:12:54 - Better Christian Responses 1:18:24 - Neeza's Thoughts To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

I Left the Church: Talking With My Former Youth Minister about Mental Health

Apr 29, 2026 1 hr 3 min

Former youth minister (and current Catholic) Ashley Kiefer joins me to talk about the messy overlap of faith, OCD, and scrupulosity. We trace her journey from professional Catholic youth worker to licensed therapist, why quoting the catechism at every problem stopped working, and how therapy forced her to learn actual listening instead of spiritual “fixing.” We dig into what scrupulosity really is, how it shows up as a subtype of OCD, why sermons that end with “just trust God more” don’t work, and how online Catholic culture and “rad trad” spaces can quietly supercharge religious anxiety. Ashley shares practical steps for discerning when it’s time to see a therapist, how to find scrupulosity-literate help, and why dealing with OCD is not a betrayal of your faith. 00:00 Ashley’s Journey from Youth Ministry to Therapy 04:21 Discussing Mental Health in Youth Ministry 07:34 Transitioning to a Career in Therapy 10:40 The Role of Faith in Therapy 25:59 Scrupulosity and OCD 29:52 Addressing Misconceptions and Scrupulosity 35:45 Understanding Intrusive Thoughts 39:24 Scrupulosity in Catholicism 56:15 Seeking Help and Resources To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

I'm a Gay Atheist. I went to a Christian YouTuber Conference with @heliocentric

Apr 26, 2026 35 min

I got invited by @HeliocentricOfficial to one of the biggest evangelical Christian YouTuber conferences in the country… as a gay atheist. Surrounded by Christian apologists, pastors, influencers, Mormons, Catholics, and some of the biggest names in Christian internet culture, I spent three days asking a simple question: why am I still an atheist after all of this? From debates on the Trinity to conversations about homosexuality, conversion therapy, suffering, and the strange beauty of religion itself, this was one of the most fascinating weekends I’ve had in a long time. 0:00 - Influencers^3 01:22 - @Heliocentric 's invitation 03:26 - Day 1 04:06 - Lesson 1 08:05 - Day 1 Continues 09:44 - Lesson 2 17:26 - The Debate 18:37 - Lesson 3 23:54 - Post Debate 24:45 - Lesson 4 28:54 - Day 2's Craziness 31:02 - Lesson 5 34:17 - Bringing My Boyfriend To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Is the Latin Mass Really Saving the Catholic Church? (w/ Kevin Nontradicath)

Apr 15, 2026 39 min

What if the Latin Mass isn’t the magic solution everyone online says it is? In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Kevin Non-Trad, who was literally born into an FSSP Latin Mass community, went to the parish school in the church basement, prayed the rosary in Latin, and watched his childhood classmates quietly drift away from the faith. I come from the opposite direction: a suburban Novus Ordo kid who dove head-first into trad YouTube, daily rosaries, and Latin Mass as the supposed answer to the Church’s crisis—only to leave Catholicism anyway. 00:00 Kevin's Background in the Latin Mass 05:15 Retention Rates and Realities 07:05 Challenges and Critiques of the Traditionalist Movement 18:31 Liturgical Anecdotes 18:58 Why People Convert 21:46 Challenges and Criticisms of Latin Mass 25:06 The Human Connection to Rituals and Music 26:32 The Complexity of Faith and Personal Beliefs To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

I Read The Entire Supreme Court Conversion Therapy Case (It's Not What The Media is Telling You)

Apr 8, 2026 3 hr 41 min

I've been working on this case for almost a year now - and I figured I'd give you the ultimate guide to understanding what is evening happening with conversion therapy and the Supreme Court. In this video, I break down the law, the arguments, and what the majority, concurrence, and dissent actually say. More importantly, I explain what the case is really about—because the framing of the question changes everything. 0:00 Background: Framing the Case 6:54 Background: What Colorado Law Says 12:07 Background: Defining Conversion Therapy 20:04 Background: How the Case Got Here 26:37 Background: First Amendment Basics 32:33 Background: How SCOTUS Decisions Work 43:29 Majority: Strict Scrutiny Explained 47:27 Majority: What Therapy Really Is 51:06 Majority: Parsing Colorado Law 54:39 Majority: Speech Versus Conduct 55:17 Majority: Facial V As Applied Challenge 58:34 Majority: Black Swan Analogy 1:02:11 Majority: No Perfect Precedent Fits 1:10:48 Majority: Bad Citations And Categories 1:14:01 Majority: Lawyers Cases Aren't Therapy 1:16:41 Majority: NIFLA Case Breakdown 1:20:24 Majority: Viewpoint Discrimination Claim 1:21:38 Majority: Orientation Versus Behavior 1:24:09 Majority: Religion Not The Issue 1:25:06 Majority: NIFLA 1:28:30 Majority: Professional Speech Limits 1:29:39 Majority: Viewpoint Discrimination Claim 1:36:28 Majority: Speech Versus Conduct 1:38:54 Majority: Informed Consent Analogy 1:45:59 Majority: Licensing Tradition Debate 1:56:51 Majority: Therapy Is Medical Treatment 2:05:16 Majority: Licensing And What’s Still Allowed 2:08:38 Majority: Consent Power Dynamics 2:10:28 Majority: When Actions Are Speech 2:13:57 Majority: Majority Logic Breakdown 2:19:23 Majority: Medical Consensus Hypothetical 2:23:51 Colorado Strategy Failures 2:32:28 Concurrence: Viewpoint Claim 2:36:46 Concurrence: Not A Mirror Image 2:40:54 Dissent: Jackson’s Framework 2:48:19 Dissent: Harms Of Conversion Therapy 2:52:42 Dissent: Why Minors Need Protection 2:52:56 Dissent: Fraud Not...

"I Was Brainwashed Into Making Ex-Gay TikToks" - Interviewing Griffin on Conversion Therapy

Mar 26, 2026 54 min

In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Griffin to hear one of the most intense and personal stories I’ve encountered about growing up gay in a Christian environment. We talk about what it’s like to be taught that your identity is sinful, the psychological toll of trying to “pray the gay away,” and how systems of shame, guilt, and fear can shape the way you see yourself. Griffin shares his firsthand experience with conversion therapy, including manipulation tactics, missionary school, and even being pressured into shock therapy. We also explore what it looks like to break free from that world, rebuild your identity, and navigate the tension between faith and sexuality—along with how these stories are still impacting people today. 00:00 Strict Megachurch Upbringing 04:01 Realizing He Was Gay 21:46 Hawaii Mission School Brainwashing 28:38 Fear Tactics and Shame 32:05 Ex-Gay TikTok Era 34:36 Coerced Shock Therapy 40:37 Healing and Hope Ahead To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Catholic Apologist Says Slavery Is Okay In Debate About Jesus' Resurrection

Jan 28, 2026 1 hr 35 min

*Skip to 01:23:00 - if you just want to see the slavery bit* After a few months off podcasting, I came back with one of the wildest conversations I’ve had with a Catholic apologist. This is my third debate with Noah from ⁨@Jesus.andwhatnot⁩ and we start in a pretty normal place: the historicity of Jesus, what (if anything) we can know from the sources, how reliable the Gospels are, and whether claims like crucifixion and resurrection can be treated like other ancient historical questions. Then the conversation takes a sharp turn into epistemology—faith vs. history, “first principles,” and whether the Catholic Church can be treated as an infallible authority. And yes: there’s a moment where he starts defending slavery, which honestly caught me off guard in real time. If you want the calm historical discussion, it’s here. If you want the “what did I just hear” moment, you’ll definitely find it. Either way, I hope this helps you think more clearly about what counts as evidence, what counts as faith, and how people build worldviews. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Return 02:43 Debate Setup: Historicity of Jesus 06:04 Exploring the Historical Jesus 18:34 Crucifixion and Resurrection Debate 32:03 Skepticism and Historical Evidence 47:51 The Presupposition of Jesus as God 48:25 Mary's Perpetual Virginity: Historical or Faith Claim? 49:28 Catholicism and Historical Claims 53:43 Epistemology and Circular Reasoning 55:45 First Principles and Trust in the Catholic Church 59:08 Faith vs. Historical Evidence 01:02:46 The Role of the Catholic Church in Morality 01:06:07 Debating the Stability of Worldviews 01:09:31 The Evolution of Catholic Doctrine 01:23:00 - DEFENDING SLAVERY 01:27:11 Closing Statements and Reflections To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

"I Was Raised In the Latin Mass. Here's Why I'm Not Catholic Anymore" - @KevinNonTradicath

Dec 1, 2025 48 min

I got to sit down in person with fellow ex-Catholic creator ⁨@Nontradicath⁩ for a long-awaited crossover: why we’re not Catholic anymore. Kevin shares his journey from being “born into” the traditionalist FSSP world—daily Latin Mass, grace-maxing, Marian devotions—to slowly realizing that so much of what he’d been taught as “history” looks a lot more like legend. We talk Old Testament authorship, Adam and Eve, gospel reliability, Marian apparitions like Fatima and Guadalupe, and the uncomfortable gap between what Catholic scholars actually say in academic work and what popular apologists tell the pews and YouTube. 00:00 Kevin's Background and Catholic Answers 04:00 Why We're Not Catholic Anymore 07:19 Historical and Biblical Skepticism 09:49 Marian Apparitions and Church History 11:46 Catholic Apologetics 20:10 Community and Catholicism 23:55 Catholic Scholars vs. Apologists 25:42 Frustrations with Apologetics 29:08 Deconstructing Catholic Beliefs 41:36 The Role of Fiction and Stories To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Natural Law Actually Disagrees with the Catholic Church on Sexual Ethics w/ Chris Damian

Nov 24, 2025 1 hr 30 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade sits down with gay Catholic writer and lawyer Chris Damian to unpack one of the most abused buzzwords in Catholic debates: natural law. They trace how Aristotle, Aquinas, and virtue ethics get flattened into YouTube talking points, why “sex is for babies and bonding” doesn’t actually settle anything, and how natural law gets weaponized against LGBT people, contraception, and queer families while mysteriously ignoring things like smoking and worker exploitation. From Latin Mass culture and “Catholic Inc.” to chastity, conversion therapy, and bad analogies about chairs, cups, and diet soda, Cade and Chris ask: What would natural law look like if we actually cared about human flourishing—especially for queer people—instead of just defending a pre-decided rulebook? 00:00 Natural Law in Catholicism 01:35 Catholic Inc. and Rad Trad Explained 03:31 Natural Law and Sexual Ethics 09:39 Critiques and Complexities of Natural Law 14:17 Marriage and Natural Law 20:25 Natural Law in Practice and Popular Misconceptions 37:58 Christian Natural Law and Intuitive Goods 46:30 The Anorexia Argument and Natural Law 50:56 The Flaws in Catholic Natural Law Arguments 56:14 The One-Way Valve of Catholic Studies 58:10 Adoption and Same-Sex Couples 59:52 The Complexity of Human Flourishing 01:04:06 The Inconsistencies in Catholic Sexual Ethics 01:06:57 The Broader Implications of Natural Law To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Why I Didn't Covert to Catholicism - Ex-Catholic Philosopher and Catholic YouTuber w/ @evan_raugust

Nov 21, 2025 45 min

I sit down with Catholic YouTuber @evan_raugust after a wild weekend where we went to seven churches in one weekend: Messianic Jewish, Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthodox, Anglican, non-denominational megachurch, and a Presbyterian church plant. Evan's full main channel video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHejO1GGbwU&t=651s We unpack how each community tells a different story about God, heaven, and everyday life—Latin Mass vs fog machines, house-church Orthodoxy vs televised sermons, “I felt the Holy Spirit” vs “this still doesn’t make me a believer.” We talk conversion, deconstruction, the pull of beauty and liturgy, and why some churches felt genuinely soulful while others felt like spiritual factories. If you’re curious how an ex-Catholic atheist and a convinced Catholic convert experience the same services in totally different ways, this conversation is for you. 00:00 Weekend Adventure: Visiting Different Churches 01:20 Evan's Religious Background 03:48 Cade's Religious Background 04:49 Collaboration and Video Concept 11:46 Messianic Jewish Church Experience 14:59 Catholic Church Experience 19:00 Pentecostal Prayer Service Experience 20:46 Catholic vs Evangelical Views on End Times 23:18 Orthodox Church Experience 27:17 Non-Denominational Church Visit 31:16 Anglican Evensong Service 33:33 Nova Church: A Presbyterian Experience 38:00 Reflections on Visiting Multiple Churches 42:13 Concluding Thoughts on Religion and Atheism To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

No, Gay People Didn't Ruin Your Friendships (Religious Catholic Homophobia Did)

Nov 16, 2025 47 min

Christian youtube video essays keep claiming that “LGBT ideology” ruined male friendship, but I have no clue what they're on about. As a gay ex-Catholic, I use my old theological training to look at the “and they were just roommates” discourse, the panic over male affection, and the erasure of queer couples from history. I also share my own story of trying to be a devout, rule-following Catholic while secretly gay—and what I discovered about friendship once I left that homophobic bubble. Creators featured in this video: @theLOOPcast @TheCounselofTrent @amenalex @AscensionPresents @jasonevert 00:00 Gay People Stole Your Frogs and Toads 06:48 And History Will Call Them Roommates 23:11 Keep The Socks On 36:38 The Real Victims To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Catholic vs Protestant vs Atheist Debates Online with Elijah Lamb (Christian Preacher)

Nov 5, 2025 1 hr 3 min

After debating together on the Ellen Fisher Podcast, Elijah Lamb (Gen-Z Christian preacher and well-known TikToker) and I (ex-Catholic, now atheist debater) sat down to unpack Gen-Z Catholicism, Protestant/Catholic/Atheist debate culture, and why certainty theater replaces discipleship. We talk caricatures (“read church history, become Catholic”), denominational hopping, Mary/Eucharist misunderstandings, street-apologetics gotchas, humility vs. victory, and how online arguments are getting more technical—and more honest. What should Catholics, Protestants, and atheists actually do next? 00:00 Rise of Gen Z Catholicism 02:47 Personal Faith Journeys 04:54 Debating Apologetics 07:33 Youth and Theological Exploration 10:26 Navigating Online Religious Debates 30:22 The Role of Apologetics in Faith 34:26 The Futility of Online Religious Debates 36:32 The Impact of Apologetics on Personal Faith 43:31 The Evolution of Christian-Atheist Debates 49:41 Advice for Catholic Apologists and Atheists To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

How the Right-Wing Is Bringing Back Conversion Therapy Through The Supreme Court (Chiles v Salazar)

Sep 2, 2025 23 min

My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharing A new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” designer, meet “No Therapy” Kaley— a Christian counselor recruited by well-funded right-wing legal groups to challenge Colorado’s bipartisan ban on conversion therapy for minors. In this episode, I break down the Salazar case, the PR tactics behind it, and the dangerous history of conversion therapy. We’ll look at how billionaires bankroll fake plaintiffs, how discredited psychologists invented “reparative therapy,” and why banning conversion therapy is actually a win for both kids and conservative faith communities. 00:00 Background on Conversion Therapy Laws 01:46 Manufacturing a Victim 03:33 The Case of Kaley Chiles 04:52 Public Narrative and Legal Arguments 09:53 The History and Pseudoscience of Conversion Therapy 16:00 Impact on Religious Communities 23:02 Conclusion and Personal Reflections To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Religious Trauma Therapist On Identity, Self Sabotage, and Queer Identity After Religion (SC Nealy)

Aug 30, 2025 1 hr 16 min

On this episode of The Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with SC Neely—therapist, author of 30+ books, and specialist in religious trauma and queer/trans identity. We explore the real signs of religious trauma, how it overlaps with complex PTSD, and the unique challenges queer people face when deconstructing from high-control religious environments. We cover the roadmap from questioning to deconstruction to rebuilding identity, how trauma shows up in the body, why labels can feel overwhelming, and practical steps for reclaiming identity, sexuality, and community outside of religion. If you’ve ever wondered whether your religious past still affects your identity today, this conversation will give you clarity, compassion, and tools for healing. 00:00 Understanding Religious Trauma 08:28 Navigating Identity After Leaving Religion 29:15 Practical Steps for Rebuilding Life Post-Religion 41:47 Recognizing Self-Sabotage from Religious Trauma 46:47 Dealing with Feeling Behind in Life 51:01 Managing Anger After Leaving Religion 54:54 Exploring Queer Spaces and Identities 01:10:49 The Lifelong Journey of Healing from Trauma To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

I Left the Catholic Church (Online Radicalization, The Latin Mass, and Finding Meaning Without God)

Aug 25, 2025 1 hr 2 min

In this episode, I share my raw and personal journey through Catholicism—from being raised in a suburban Catholic family to becoming an intense religious fundamentalist who nearly entered a monastery. I explain what it was like to give every waking moment to prayer, theology, and the dream of becoming a monk, only to have my life upended when I was rejected for being gay. What followed was a painful process of leaving not just Catholicism, but religion itself. I open up about the collapse of my community, meaning, and identity—and how I rebuilt my life through running ultramarathons, reconnecting with purpose, and creating content to help others on their journey. This isn’t an argument against belief; it’s a memoir of faith, loss, discovery, and resilience. Whether you’re religious, questioning, or completely secular, I hope my story resonates with you. 00:00 My Religious Beginnings 02:37 Religious Awakening 05:29 Deepening Faith 11:42 Embracing Fundamentalism and the Latin Mass 15:36 COVID Lockdowns and Monastic Aspirations 19:18 Rejection and College Life 22:04 Life Decisions 30:16 Questioning Catholic Teachings 32:46 Departing Catholicism 35:08 Struggles with Identity 38:07 Finding New Meaning 41:40 Embracing a New Life 46:55 Reflections on Religion and Personal Growth 53:19 Living Authentically To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Catholic Mass & Drag Brunch: Community Meaning-Making Rituals (w/ Co-Host Colin)

Aug 18, 2025 1 hr 3 min

What happens when you attend a traditional Latin Catholic Mass in the morning and a drag brunch in the afternoon? Surprisingly, these seemingly opposite worlds share more than you’d expect. In this episode, we unpack seven parallels between Catholic liturgy and drag performance—from ritual and belonging to performance, morality, and meaning. For us, this isn’t about mockery. It’s about understanding how humans create community, how rituals give us identity, and how art—whether sacred chant or drag lip-sync—can lift us beyond ourselves. 00:00 Weekend Adventures: Latin Mass and Drag Brunch 01:03 Understanding Drag Brunch 02:12 Commonalities Between Latin Mass and Drag Brunch 02:35 Personal Backgrounds and Reflections 03:55 Seven Commonalities: An Overview 04:31 Disclaimers and Respectful Comparisons 07:06 Social Conformity in Rituals 15:02 Navigating Social Scripts 20:38 Reinforcing Community and Morality 31:30 Entertainment and Performance 32:34 Choosing Preferences in Drag and Religion 33:18 Community and Performance in Mass and Drag 34:00 Diversity and Aesthetic Preferences 36:31 Social Investment in Rituals 40:31 Shedding the Self in Group Activities 47:33 The Role of History and Trauma 56:32 Intentional Community Building 01:00:19 Finding Your Community To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

'Help, My Loved One Joined Fundamentalist Catholicism' - How to React with @LeaveLaughLove

Jul 26, 2025 1 hr 15 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Evelyn from @leavelaughlove joins me to tackle one of the hardest questions we get asked: how do you talk to loved ones who are falling into fundamentalist Catholicism? We unpack: Why people get drawn into high-control religious groups How to maintain healthy boundaries without burning bridges Why “debating” rarely changes minds Compassionate approaches that keep relationships intact When it’s okay to let go Whether it’s your child, spouse, parent, or friend, this conversation offers realistic and empathetic strategies for navigating these difficult dynamics. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:23 Today's Topic: Relating to Fundamentalist Catholics 01:06 Personal Experiences with Fundamentalism 01:49 Understanding the Rabbit Hole 02:57 Starting the Conversation 06:07 The Importance of Boundaries 09:49 Maintaining Relationships with Compassion 13:08 Navigating Conversations and Debates 21:22 The Role of Community in Fundamentalism 23:55 Setting Clear Boundaries 31:17 Respecting Individual Journeys 37:45 Navigating Conflicting Emotions 38:48 Maintaining Relationships Despite Differences 40:26 Understanding High-Control Religious Beliefs 44:22 Advice for Parents of Religious Teens 56:43 The Deconstruction Process 01:04:32 Setting Boundaries and Finding Supportive Relationships 01:13:13 Final Thoughts and Viewer Engagement To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

“I Followed Every Catholic Marriage Rule… Until I Realized the Harm" - An Ex-Catholic Wife's Story

Jul 15, 2025 1 hr 1 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Isabelle, who grew up immersed in traditional Catholicism—daily rosaries, novenas, and all. Over time, she shifted toward progressive Catholicism before beginning a slow and painful unraveling of belief. We talk about mental health, OCD masked as virtue, the reality of Catholic marriage and NFP, gender and sexuality, and the psychological manipulation baked into so many teachings. Isabelle shares how motherhood, philosophy, and her relationship with her non-Catholic husband helped her reclaim agency and begin truly living. It’s raw, real, and deeply moving. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background 00:21 Early Catholic Upbringing 01:08 Struggles with Faith and Mental Health 01:57 Deconstruction Journey Begins 04:42 Neurodivergence and Religion 13:18 College Years and Evolving Beliefs 19:11 Marriage and Catholic Rules 25:16 Challenges with Natural Family Planning 32:32 Realizing the Harm of Church Teachings 33:59 Questioning God's Behavior 35:12 Struggles with Church Teachings on Parenting 36:32 Self-Doubt and Leaving the Church 43:58 The Impact of NFP and Personal Choices 45:45 The Tipping Point: Intersex Identities 48:46 Final Steps Away from the Church 49:42 Life After Leaving the Church 52:21 Reflections and Final Thoughts To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

How the Left Can Win Debates - Actual Jubilee Participants Talk About Their Experience

Jul 6, 2025 1 hr 51 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I'm joined by Greg and Oliver—two seasoned left-wing voices who’ve appeared on Jubilee, the Whatever podcast, and in brutal six-hour debates with professional sexists, racists, and homophobes. Together, we unpack the ethics of debate, how to survive the emotional toll, what it’s like to be in the room with Jordan Peterson or Michael Knowles, and why the left can’t afford to stay silent anymore. Whether you're thinking of joining a debate or just curious how to counter the right-wing media machine, this is your crash course in becoming a better debater—without losing your mind, your values, or your sense of humor. Oliver's Youtube: @oliverniehaus Oliver's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/olivermniehaus/ Oliver's TIkTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oliver.niehaus?lang=en Greg's YouTube: @GregDoesVideos Greg's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gregfromvideo1/ Greg's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregfromvideo1?lang=en 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:10 Meet the Guests: Greg and Oliver 00:26 Debate Experiences and Reflections 01:20 The Role of Online Political Debates 04:57 Challenges and Criticisms of Debating 10:17 Strategies for Effective Debating 12:49 The Impact of Debates on Public Perception 35:49 Encouraging More Left-Wing Debaters 36:16 Advice for Aspiring Debaters 38:28 Setting the Stage: Debate Preparation Insights 38:54 Handling Misinformation in Debates 40:59 The Importance of Honest Feedback 41:44 Extensive Preparation Techniques 42:40 Staying Disciplined During Debates 43:17 Avoiding Gotcha Moments 45:41 Using Personal Experience Effectively 51:40 Managing Emotions in Debates 01:09:31 Building a Debate Network 01:20:09 Handling Hate Comments 01:21:26 The Power of Blocking on YouTube 01:24:09 The Reality of Viral Fame 01:26:44 Debate Strategies and Real-World Impact 01:33:17 Security and Privacy Concerns 01:36:32 The Fun and Challenges of Debating 01:40:29 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up 01:50:34 Final...

Gay, Catholic, and OnlyFans Star: Darian Black's Story of Reconciling Faith and Sexuality

Jul 1, 2025 52 min

I sat down with Darian, a gay creator who once wanted to be a Catholic priest and now runs an OnlyFans—while still attending Mass. We talked about scrupulosity, being queer in the church, spirituality beyond dogma, and the surprising peace he found in ritual. Darian's story is messy, funny, thoughtful, and deeply honest—and it challenges what it means to be both gay and Catholic in a polarized world. You can follow Darian on instagram and tikTok - https://www.instagram.com/darianblackofficial/ 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:17 Darien's Background and Journey 01:45 Growing Up Catholic in the South 04:42 Struggles with Catholic Teachings on Sexuality 06:35 Coming Out and Family Reactions 22:09 Exploring Religion and Spirituality 25:27 Starting Social Media and OnlyFans 26:21 Finding Peace in Daily Mass 27:30 Transition to Social Media Success 29:51 Balancing Faith and Career 30:54 Views on Church Teachings and Sexuality 32:59 Community and Acceptance 37:56 Catholic Converts and Personality Types 45:30 Advice for Young LGBTQ+ Catholics 51:37 Final Thoughts and Where to Connect To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Two Atheists Go to a Latin Mass - Behind @HeliocentricOfficial's 'Atheist Church Audit'

Jun 27, 2025 2 hr 38 min

Jared from Heliocentric joins me to talk about his experience attending a Latin Mass for the first time and what it reveals about the explosive growth of Rad Trad Catholicism online. We dive into the aesthetics, the online media machine, the psychology of conversion, and how social media fuels religious radicalization. We also reflect on sexuality, the pain of being gay in the Church, and our shared experiences with Jordan Peterson. This one goes deep. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:23 Humorous Banter and Bible References 01:06 Jared's YouTube Channel and Background 02:37 Discussion on Traditional Catholicism 03:25 Rad Trad Influencers and Online Presence 05:02 Experiences with Latin Mass and Orthodox Church 23:07 Jared's Personal Journey and Challenges 33:03 Theological Reflections on Homosexuality 41:15 Struggles of Celibate Gay Christians 43:45 Navigating Catholic Teachings on Homosexuality 46:19 Conversion Therapy and Childhood Trauma 47:33 The Hierarchy of Catholic Vocations 49:35 The Reality of Online Religious Discourse 53:32 Emotional Honesty in Religious Conversations 54:28 The Role of Therapy in Leaving Religion 57:46 Personal Experiences with Faith and Atheism 01:02:47 Debating Religion Online vs. In Person 01:16:50 Behind the Scenes of Jubilee Debates 01:22:05 The Intensity of Live Debates 01:23:00 Reflecting on the Peterson Debate 01:24:38 The Hero's Journey in Jubilee Format 01:25:41 Peterson's Performance and Public Perception 01:29:10 The Evolution of Jordan Peterson's Ideology 01:33:01 Personal Impact and Critique of Peterson 01:44:12 Debating Religion and Atheism 01:48:27 The Role of Conversations in Deconstruction 02:00:00 The Influence of Online Debates 02:02:43 Navigating Hyper-Niche Content 02:03:14 Engaging with Online Audiences 02:04:12 The Reality of Internet Fame 02:05:07 The Fear of Being Misunderstood 02:06:06 Balancing Authenticity and Reach 02:14:38 The Ethics of Church Audits 02:16:25 Conversations on Faith and Belief 02:17:5...

Dialogue: Does the Bible Condemn Homosexuality? Catholic Apologist vs Gay Atheist

Jun 21, 2025 1 hr 20 min

In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I’m joined again by Noah from Jesus and Whatnot for part two of our deep-dive into what the Bible says—or doesn’t say—about homosexuality. As a gay atheist and former almost-priest, I argue that the biblical texts don’t clearly address modern queer relationships. Noah, now a confirmed Catholic, brings the counterpoint: that Scripture plainly condemns all homosexual intercourse. We cover Leviticus, Romans, Paul’s invented Greek words, death penalty laws, and whether the Bible is as clear as people say it is—or whether everyone’s just projecting their own beliefs onto it. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:33 The Origin of the Debate 01:02 Noah's Stance on Biblical Condemnation 03:55 Leviticus and Homosexuality 18:46 New Testament Perspectives 18:59 Romans 1:26-27 Analysis 31:11 Historical Context and Modern Interpretations 40:56 Debating Biblical Interpretation of Homosexuality 41:38 Contextual Analysis of St. Paul's Writings 42:19 Modern vs. Historical Views on Homosexuality 44:04 The Role of Historical Context in Biblical Interpretation 46:04 Analogies and Their Limitations 48:35 Revisiting Biblical Texts and Modern Understandings 55:17 The Debate on Capital Punishment and Biblical Teachings 59:06 The Case for Progressive Interpretation 01:14:10 Final Thoughts and Conclusions To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Coming Out As Gay In Canadian Catholic Hockey Culture - @bradyvandruenen's Story

Jun 13, 2025 48 min

I got to sit down with @bradyvandruenen55 , a former Catholic school student and hockey player from small-town Canada, to hear his powerful story of growing up gay in a conservative Catholic environment. We dive into Catholic sex ed, hockey locker room culture, the mental gymnastics of trying to be someone you're not, and what it was like to finally break free and come out. This one’s for anyone who’s ever felt trapped by faith, family, or fear. You can follow Brady on: Youtube: @bradyvandruenen55 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bradyvandruenen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bradyvandruenen/ 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:14 Brady's TikTok Journey 03:12 Growing Up Catholic 05:22 Sex Education and Early Conflicts 08:48 Struggles with Identity 18:25 Coming Out and Self-Acceptance 24:07 The Journey of Self-Acceptance 24:30 Coming Out to Friends and Colleagues 26:15 Family Reactions and Challenges 31:21 Navigating High School and Religion 32:08 Experiences in Hockey Culture 38:02 Life After Coming Out 38:17 Advocacy and Future Goals 46:05 Final Thoughts and Advice To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

The Ultimate Guide to Coming Out - A Philosopher's Perspective

May 16, 2025 33 min

This is the ultimate guide to coming out—philosophically, practically, and personally. Whether you’re just starting to question your identity, preparing for your first conversation, or figuring out how to rebuild your life after coming out, this video is for you. As someone who almost became a Catholic priest and now helps coach others through the coming out process, I’ve condensed everything I know—from identity labels to safety planning, to navigating family, faith, and fear—into this one video. You’ll find conversation scripts, tips, community, and real-life encouragement. Your life doesn’t start when you have all the answers. It starts the moment you get to breathe. 00:00 Intro 02:15 Understanding the Coming Out Process 11:58 The Importance of Labels and Identity 14:18 Planning and Safety Considerations 16:49 Building a Coming Out Plan 20:21 Navigating Conversations and Reactions 26:11 The Reality of Life After Coming Out 28:50 Cade's Personal Coming Out Letter 32:46 Final Thoughts and Encouragement To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Being Gay At The Most Conservative Catholic Universities - Newman Guide - @leavelaughlove

May 12, 2025 1 hr 24 min

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade chats with Evelyn from Leave Laugh Love about the hidden world of Newman Guide colleges — those elite, ultra-conservative Catholic universities designed to "protect" young adults from the real world. Evelyn shares her experience attending Franciscan University, the cult-like enforcement of Catholic morality, the double lives queer students are forced to live, and the gaslighting that comes with leaving. We dive into everything from purity culture to fake academic rigor, campus surveillance, and why these colleges are obsessed with Jordan Peterson and Lila Rose. If you’re wondering whether these schools are holy havens or Catholic cults — this episode is for you. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:08 Criteria for Newman Guide Schools 03:05 Personal Experiences at Newman Guide Schools 06:23 Life at Franciscan University 21:25 Homeschooling and Academic Challenges 24:29 Critical Thinking and Education 36:47 Student Life and Social Dynamics 42:16 The Role of Religion in Student Life 45:20 Debating Sin and Personal Relationships 49:16 Questioning Research and Studies 01:09:45 Leaving the Catholic University 01:21:21 Final Thoughts and Advice To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

Eucharistic Miracles Are FAKE - Actual Scientist Review "Scientific Evidence" of Catholic Miracle Claims w/ @Nontradicath

May 1, 2025 1 hr 16 min

Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad I’m joined by Kevin for a deep dive into one of Catholicism’s most emotionally compelling and scientifically dubious claims: Eucharistic miracles. You’ve heard the stories—bread turning into heart tissue, bleeding hosts, and baffled scientists—but how well do these claims hold up to scrutiny? Kevin walks us through the actual studies (or lack thereof), the role of contamination, misleading narratives, and the difference between scientific integrity and religious marketing. We talk Lonciano, Buenos Aires, and Tlaxcala, plus the Catholic scientists themselves who have started to speak out. If you’ve ever felt guilt-tripped into staying Catholic because of these miracles—or you just want to understand the facts—this episode is for you. 00:00 Introduction to Eucharistic Miracles 00:34 Popular Eucharistic Miracle Claims 02:18 Scientific Investigations and Findings 04:16 Catholic Beliefs and Practices 07:57 Skepticism and Scientific Critique 20:39 Blood Type Analysis in Miracles 37:43 DNA Evidence and Its Implications 38:55 DNA Findings and Supernatural Claims 40:13 Scientific Skepticism and Contamination 45:40 Dr. Kiers' Experiment and Findings 48:05 Dr. Trian Cos' Skepticism 55:00 Economic and Social Implications of Miracles 58:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

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Created by: Cade Bradley
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Latest episode: Nov 4, 2026
Episodes: 91
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