Musician Marlon Williams + film director Ursula Grace Williams
19 min
“I struggle with the idea of authenticity, you know, this idea that you’re putting your true self into art … it’s never as straightforward as that." In this episode, I speak to heavenly musician MARLON WILLIAMS and film director URSULA GRACE WILLIAMS about their beautiful documentary, Marlon Williams: Two Worlds – Ngā Ao E Rua, which follows the making of an album, Te Whare Tiwekaweka. Here, Marlon and Ursula discuss authenticity in art and documentary, Marlon’s ambivalence about revealing his private self, Ursula’s verité approach to documentary filmmaking and how she gradually gained Marlon's trust. They explore Marlon's 'two worlds' and the ways he inhabits them and how making mistakes can be a blessing. TIME STAMP 00:00 Welcome and Setup 00:42 Maori Songwriting Shift 01:56 Captured on Film 03:11 Making the Documentary 04:56 Voyeur Camera Language 06:17 Trust and Boundaries 07:28 Living Between Worlds 09:48 Authenticity in Art 12:35 Performance and Persona 14:51 Mistakes on Stage 16:06 Filming Family Dynamics 19:14 Closing Credits INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT https://kirstenkrauth.com.au/musician-actor-marlon-williams-and-director-ursula-grace-william/ WATCH THE FILM https://www.justwatch.com/au/movie/marlon-williams-two-worlds Excerpts of this interview featured in a profile I wrote for ScreenHub: https://www.screenhub.com.au/news/interviews/marlon-williams-interview-two-worlds-nga-ao-e-rua-2682546/ The music featured in the podcast is by Richard Andrew. Check out my other podcast - Almost a Mirror! Say hello at Instagram and Facebook: @kirstenkrauth. If you're an artist who would like to be considered for this podcast, DM me on Insta or FB. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.