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Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch

OrgDev with Distinction

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The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner workings of Organisation Development. We demystify the concepts, unravel the strategies, and delve into the real-life experiences of professionals who are driving real and significant change and innovation within organisations.

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From HR to OD - How to make the shift | David Patrick

55 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you move from HR into Organisation Development - and what changes when you start working less transactionally and more with the organisation as a system? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, Garin Rouch and Dani Bacon are joined by David Patrick, Organisational Development Lead: Leadership and Change at Dorset Council, to explore his journey from HR into OD and what that transition has taught him about the practice of organisation development. David began his local government career as an HR Assistant and has since worked across HR systems, employee relations, organisational change, leadership and OD. In this conversation, he reflects on how his understanding of OD has developed, what he had to let go of from more traditional HR practice, and what it takes to work effectively in a large, complex public sector organisation. We explore what day-to-day OD work actually looks like inside local government, how a small OD team decides where to focus its energy, and how practitioners create space for thoughtful, longer-term work in environments that can feel fast-paced and reactive. The conversation also looks at the distinctive challenges of practising OD in a political and highly governed system, including major organisational change, mergers and restructures, competing demands and the ongoing question of what an organisation really needs from its OD practitioners. For anyone considering a move from HR into Organisation Development, already making that transition, or trying to understand what good internal OD practice looks like, this is a practical and honest conversation about building an OD career from the inside. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights fr...

Rethinking Strategy - Building Foresight - Shaping the Future with Dr Matt Finch

1 hr 6 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if strategy wasn't about predicting or controlling the future, but about helping organisations make better decisions in the face of uncertainty? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we're joined by Dr Matt Finch for a fascinating conversation about rethinking strategy, building foresight and navigating an increasingly uncertain world. We explore why strategy needs to be a living process rather than a document produced every few years, how scenario planning can help us challenge our assumptions, and why thinking about the future shouldn't be reserved for specialists. Matt shares some wonderful metaphors, including an island of relationships surrounded by a sea of uncertainty, and the OD practitioner as a midwife rather than a parent. We also explore the emotions, identities and hidden dynamics that influence strategic decisions, the importance of knowing where to intervene, and how to recognise opportunities when things don't go to plan. Along the way, we discuss what it takes to work with discomfort, develop the judgement to improvise and help organisations build their own capacity to navigate uncertainty. About our guest Dr Matt Finch is a strategy and foresight practitioner working with organisations, governments and communities around the world. He is an Associate Fellow at Saïd Business School, University of Oxford, where he teaches scenario planning, and brings experience spanning strategy, negotiation and facilitation across the public, private and not-for-profit sectors. Explore Matt's work and resources Since recording our conversation, Matt has published The Galway Questions, a practical, accessible approach to strategic foresight developed through his work at the University of Galway. It offers 16 questions to help individuals and organisations challenge their assumptions, explore possible futures and make more thoughtful decisions today. Read The Galway Questions (free PDF): https://www.universityofg...

How to Make Change Happen with Dr Aidan Harney Valerie Yeo Jules Siegal-Hawley - OrgDev Live Conference

1 hr 10 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Practical lessons on organisational change, change leadership and making transformation stick. Organisational change is rarely as straightforward as change management models suggest. Even well-intentioned transformation can create uncertainty, resistance, loss, competing priorities and unintended consequences. In this session from the Org Dev Live conference, Dr Aidan Harney, Jules Siegel-Hawley and Valerie Yeo explore the realities of leading and supporting change in complex organisations. Drawing on their experience in organisation development, leadership, culture and large-scale transformation, they share what leaders and practitioners often underestimate, where change efforts g et stuck, and what genuinely helps people move forward. The session explores the human side of organisational change, including resistance, loss, leadership behaviour, culture, communication, involvement and the conditions that help change become sustainable rather than short lived. Expect real examples, honest reflections and practical ideas for leaders, HR professionals, organisation development practitioners and anyone responsible for making change happen in complex, fast-moving organisations. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic develop...

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From HR to OD - How to make the shift | David Patrick

55 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you move from HR into Organisation Development - and what changes when you start working less transactionally and more with the organisation as a system? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, Garin Rouch and Dani Bacon are joined by David Patrick, Organisational Development Lead: Leadership and Change at Dorset Council, to explore his journey from HR into OD and what that transition has taught him about the practice of organisation development. David began his local government career as an HR Assistant and has since worked across HR systems, employee relations, organisational change, leadership and OD. In this conversation, he reflects on how his understanding of OD has developed, what he had to let go of from more traditional HR practice, and what it takes to work effectively in a large, complex public sector organisation. We explore what day-to-day OD work actually looks like inside local government, how a small OD team decides where to focus its energy, and how practitioners create space for thoughtful, longer-term work in environments that can feel fast-paced and reactive. The conversation also looks at the distinctive challenges of practising OD in a political and highly governed system, including major organisational change, mergers and restructures, competing demands and the ongoing question of what an organisation really needs from its OD practitioners. For anyone considering a move from HR into Organisation Development, already making that transition, or trying to understand what good internal OD practice looks like, this is a practical and honest conversation about building an OD career from the inside. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights fr...

Rethinking Strategy - Building Foresight - Shaping the Future with Dr Matt Finch

1 hr 6 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if strategy wasn't about predicting or controlling the future, but about helping organisations make better decisions in the face of uncertainty? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we're joined by Dr Matt Finch for a fascinating conversation about rethinking strategy, building foresight and navigating an increasingly uncertain world. We explore why strategy needs to be a living process rather than a document produced every few years, how scenario planning can help us challenge our assumptions, and why thinking about the future shouldn't be reserved for specialists. Matt shares some wonderful metaphors, including an island of relationships surrounded by a sea of uncertainty, and the OD practitioner as a midwife rather than a parent. We also explore the emotions, identities and hidden dynamics that influence strategic decisions, the importance of knowing where to intervene, and how to recognise opportunities when things don't go to plan. Along the way, we discuss what it takes to work with discomfort, develop the judgement to improvise and help organisations build their own capacity to navigate uncertainty. About our guest Dr Matt Finch is a strategy and foresight practitioner working with organisations, governments and communities around the world. He is an Associate Fellow at Saïd Business School, University of Oxford, where he teaches scenario planning, and brings experience spanning strategy, negotiation and facilitation across the public, private and not-for-profit sectors. Explore Matt's work and resources Since recording our conversation, Matt has published The Galway Questions, a practical, accessible approach to strategic foresight developed through his work at the University of Galway. It offers 16 questions to help individuals and organisations challenge their assumptions, explore possible futures and make more thoughtful decisions today. Read The Galway Questions (free PDF): https://www.universityofg...

How to Make Change Happen with Dr Aidan Harney Valerie Yeo Jules Siegal-Hawley - OrgDev Live Conference

1 hr 10 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Practical lessons on organisational change, change leadership and making transformation stick. Organisational change is rarely as straightforward as change management models suggest. Even well-intentioned transformation can create uncertainty, resistance, loss, competing priorities and unintended consequences. In this session from the Org Dev Live conference, Dr Aidan Harney, Jules Siegel-Hawley and Valerie Yeo explore the realities of leading and supporting change in complex organisations. Drawing on their experience in organisation development, leadership, culture and large-scale transformation, they share what leaders and practitioners often underestimate, where change efforts g et stuck, and what genuinely helps people move forward. The session explores the human side of organisational change, including resistance, loss, leadership behaviour, culture, communication, involvement and the conditions that help change become sustainable rather than short lived. Expect real examples, honest reflections and practical ideas for leaders, HR professionals, organisation development practitioners and anyone responsible for making change happen in complex, fast-moving organisations. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic develop...

Mapping the Invisible - The Hidden Dynamics of Organisations with Dr Ty Francis

1 hr 8 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Most organisation development work focuses on what we can see: structures, behaviours, processes, strategy and culture. But some of the forces shaping organisations sit beneath the surface — in relationships, patterns, loyalties, tensions and dynamics that people can often feel without being able to clearly name. In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Dr Ty Francis to explore systemic constellations and what they can reveal about individuals, teams and organisations. Drawing on more than 25 years of work in transformation, coaching and organisational development, Ty explains how constellation-informed approaches can help make hidden organisational dynamics more visible, particularly in complex or difficult situations. We discuss how systemic constellations differ from more traditional OD and coaching approaches, what they can reveal about relationships and organisational systems, and how leaders and practitioners can work with what is happening beneath the surface rather than focusing only on what is immediately visible. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change...

Complexity - Leading Change in an Uncertain World with Dr Jean Boulton - OrgDev Live Conference

52 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! We’ve started the process of editing and releasing the recordings from OrgDev Live 2026 and in this session, Dr Jean Boulton explores what complexity thinking means for how we understand organisations, make decisions and approach change in uncertain environments. Alongside each session, we’re also creating a short two-page takeaway summary - not as an attempt to reduce a rich 50-minute conversation to a handful of neat answers but as a way of capturing some of the ideas worth holding onto, reflecting on and trying in practice. Jean’s includes seven takeaways, one reflective question and one simple action to experiment with.  You can access that here: https://distinction.live/orgdev-live-2026-resource-hub-day-2/ Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Time to Think and the Power of the Thinking Environment with Maryse Barak

59 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to create a space where people can think clearly, independently and well? In this episode of OrgDev with Garin & Dani, we speak with Maryse Barak, a member of the global Faculty of Time to Think, about the power of the Thinking Environment. We explore why the quality of people’s thinking is shaped by the conditions around them, and why attention, equality, ease and powerful questions matter so much in leadership, coaching, facilitation and organisational life. This conversation is about listening more deeply, interrupting less, and creating meetings and conversations where people can think for themselves with greater clarity, courage and independence. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Whole Scale Change in Complex Organisations with Dr. Paul Tolchinsky

29 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it really take to create large-scale organisational change that lasts? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Paul Tolchinsky - pioneer of Whole-Scale™ Change, cofounder of the European Organisation Design Forum (EODF) and one of the most influential voices in large-system transformation and organisation design. Drawing on more than four decades of experience, Paul shares lessons from working with organisations around the world to accelerate change by engaging people at every level of the system. We explore socio-technical systems thinking, participation and engagement, organisation design, and why sustainable transformation depends on involving the whole organisation - not just senior leadership. From his early work redesigning manufacturing systems at General Foods to shaping the evolution of Whole-Scale Change approaches, Paul reflects on the experiences, ideas and turning points that have influenced his thinking and what still matters most in organisation development today. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live ...

Leaders Think They’re Driving Change - So Why Isn’t It Landing with Rupert Brown

1 hr 1 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do so many transformation and change programmes fail to deliver in practice – even when the strategy looks solid? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore why organisational change breaks down during execution, and what leaders, HR and organisation development practitioners can do to make change actually stick. We look at the gap between strategy and reality – from leadership alignment and decision-making to the lived experience of change across teams. If you’re leading transformation, working in HR or OD, or responsible for delivering change, this episode offers practical insight into how to execute change more effectively and sustainably. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Workplace Conflct - What Smart Leaders Do Differently with Rick Buccheri I|

1 hr 5 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Rick Buccheri, an organisational development practitioner based in New York, to explore conflict, collaboration and the real work of change. Drawing on his experience in organisational consulting and conflict resolution, Rick shares how tension shows up beneath the surface of teams - and what it takes to engage with it productively. We discuss why conflict is often avoided or mishandled, how power and responsibility shape workplace dynamics, and what leaders can do to create the conditions for more honest, effective conversations. Rather than seeing conflict as something to eliminate, Rick reframes it as a capability - one that organisations need to develop if they want to work through complexity and deliver meaningful change. If you work in leadership, HR or organisation development, this episode offers a practical perspective on how to navigate conflict, strengthen collaboration and support teams to take responsibility rather than defaulting to blame. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distincti...

The Hidden Leadership Power of Endings with Lizzie Bentley Bowers and Alison Lucas

58 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do leaders handle endings well - and why do so many organisations rush past them? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Lizzie Bentley Bowers and Alison Lucas about one of the most overlooked aspects of leadership and organisational change: endings. Many organisations focus on launches, growth, restructures, mergers and new strategies. Far less attention is given to what is being left behind - projects ending, team changes, role loss, leadership exits, funding cuts and organisational transitions. We explore why poorly handled endings can create uncertainty, grief, resistance, disengagement and hidden disruption. Lizzie and Alison share practical insight on how leaders can guide people through endings with clarity, care and honesty - helping organisations move forward without damaging trust, morale or performance. If you work in leadership, HR, organisation development, change management or culture transformation, this episode offers practical ideas for handling transition and creating stronger beginnings. Topics covered Leadership during change Organisational endings Restructures and transitions Employee trust and morale Communication in uncertainty Culture through change Why endings shape beginnings Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiv...

Leading Change in a Human Way with Gareth Evans

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to support people and organisations working under pressure, complexity, and trauma? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we welcome Gareth Evans, Lead for Specialist Organisational Development at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. A facilitator, coach, and thought leader in relational and trauma-informed OD, Gareth is the developer of the Conversational Spaces Framework and co-developer of the OD Practice Framework for working with organisational trauma. Together, we explore how organisation development can create the conditions for connection, collaboration, and meaningful work in complex and emotionally demanding environments. Topics include: trauma-informed OD, organisational trauma, conversational spaces, systems thinking, complexity, and relational practice. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Adaptive Action - Human Systems Dynamics with Glenda Eoyang - Orgdev Episode 100

1 hr 4 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Most organisations are still managed as if they can be controlled, predicted and engineered into success. But what if that assumption is the problem? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore a different way of seeing organisations - not as machines to optimise, but as complex human systems that are constantly shifting, adapting, and responding to their environment. If you’re dealing with messy change, unclear direction, or patterns that don’t seem to shift despite your best efforts, this conversation will challenge how you think about leadership and organisation development. This is a special episode - our 100th - and a fitting moment to step back and ask a more fundamental question: what does it really mean to lead in complexity? We’re joined by one of the most influential voices in this space, to unpack practical ways of working with uncertainty rather than trying to eliminate it. We get into Human Systems Dynamics (HSD), the CDE Model (Containers, Differences, Exchanges), and Adaptive Action - not as theory, but as tools leaders can actually use to understand patterns, make better decisions, and take action in real time Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on yo...

The Workplace Productivity Trap - Dynamic Work Design wirth Nelson Repenning MIT OrgDev Episode 99

1 hr 4 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do so many organisations struggle to improve productivity - even when they invest heavily in strategy, transformation and new ways of working? Nelson Repenning, co-author of There’s Got to Be a Better Way, describes the hidden systems that shape how work actually gets done. Drawing on decades of research at MIT and real-world organisational transformation, Nelson unpacks why well-intentioned improvements often fail - and what leaders can do differently. We explore the core ideas behind work design, the structural causes of inefficiency, and why fixing productivity isn’t about working harder, but redesigning how work flows across teams and systems. This conversation gets underneath the surface of strategy execution, operational performance, and organisational effectiveness - offering practical insight for leaders, HR, and OD practitioners trying to make change stick. If you’re dealing with slow execution, overloaded teams, or initiatives that never quite land, this episode will help you see the system differently - and act on it Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find...

The Real Reason Strategy Fails with Stefan Cousquer - OrgDev Episode 98

59 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do leadership teams say the future matters - and then fail to make time for it? This episode examines a common pattern inside organisations: strong strategies, but limited execution. We explore how top teams prioritise, make decisions, and enable strategic change, and why leadership effectiveness is often constrained not by capability, but by how time, attention, and work are structured. Here are the links to Stefan’s latest editorials: Why strategy fails – the five tensions future-ready executive teams learn to steward:  https://www.hultashridge.com/en/insights/article/strategy-and-transformation/ Your executive team doesn’t have a strategy problem – they have a time problem:  https://www.hultashridge.com/en/insights/article/faculty-column-transformation/ Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Leadership in Complex Systems with Dr Jean Boulton - OrgDev Episode 97

1 hr 13 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode, Dr Jean Boulton joins us to explore how ideas from complexity science can help leaders understand strategy, power and change in uncertain environments.  What really drives change in organisations - and what quietly kills it? Why do some initiatives gain traction while others fade away, even when the intent is strong? Originally trained as a physicist and now a strategy practitioner, Jean brings a distinctive perspective on why organisations rarely behave in the neat, predictable ways our plans assume. We discuss why traditional approaches to strategy often struggle in complex systems, how power and relationships shape outcomes inside organisations, and what leaders can do when cause and effect are not clear. If you're interested in complexity thinking, strategy under uncertainty and leading organisational change, this conversation offers a practical way to think about the messy reality of organisational life. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478...

Is Your HR Operating Model Set Up to Win ? with Perry Timms - OrgDev Episode 96

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why has HR’s operating model barely changed in 25 years – while everything around it has? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Perry Timms about the uncomfortable truth at the heart of modern HR: we’ve spent decades optimising processes instead of redesigning how HR actually works. As organisations evolve at pace – driven by digital transformation, new workforce expectations, agility, and shifting power dynamics – many HR functions are still operating with models built for a different era. Perry argues that incremental improvement is no longer enough. What’s required is a fundamental rethink of HR’s operating model, its role in organisation design, and its contribution to business value and societal impact. We explore: Why traditional HR structures struggle to support adaptive organisations The limits of efficiency thinking in transformation work Self-managed and freedom-centred work systems The future of HR operating models What “Better Business for a Better World” really means in practice Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distincti...

Clear Leadership, Real change with Gervase Bushe - OrgDev Episode 95

1 hr 11 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if organisations can’t be engineered into better performance — only invited into change? We’re joined by Gervase Bushe, one of the most influential contemporary thinkers in Organisation Development and a leading voice in dialogic OD. For decades, many change efforts have assumed that if we design the right structure, define the right process and implement the right plan, performance will follow. Bushe’s work challenges that assumption. Drawing on his research into dialogic Organisation Development, Clear Leadership and complexity-informed change, he argues that transformation emerges through conversations, shared meaning and shifts in collective attention. We explore what this means for organisational culture, leadership in complex environments, and the future of OD practice. For HR leaders, OD practitioners and senior executives navigating uncertainty, this conversation offers a grounded and practical lens on how meaningful change actually happens. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In:...

Design Your Organisation for an AI Driven Future - Omar Morales Microsoft - OrgDev Episode 94

42 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does organisation development look like when AI, complexity and constant transformation become the norm rather than the exception? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Omar Morales, Head of Organisation Development at Microsoft, to explore how organisations design for adaptability, leadership resilience, and sustained performance in fast-moving environments. Drawing on nearly two decades of global experience across organisation development, HR strategy and transformation, Omar shares practical insight on operating model design, leadership team effectiveness, systems thinking, and building OD capability at scale. If you’re working in organisation development, HR, leadership, or organisational transformation - particularly in the context of AI and evolving business models - this conversation offers grounded perspectives on how to translate strategy into action while keeping people, performance and organisational effectiveness connected. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In...

Understanding Complexity with Dave Snowden - OrgDev Episode 93

48 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to apply complexity thinking in your organisation If we can’t reliably predict what will happen in our organisations, can’t control outcomes in any simple way, and can’t even agree on what’s true – how do we lead? That’s the territory explored in this conversation with Dave Snowden. We move beyond tidy change models and into the realities of uncertainty, distributed knowledge and contested meaning. This episode challenges the instinct to simplify too quickly, offering a more grounded way to think about judgement, intervention and action in complex systems. From Cynefin to estuarine mapping, the discussion examines what it really means to make sense of the present before attempting to shape the future — and why leadership in complexity is less about control and more about creating the conditions for coherence to emerge. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Essential Guide to High Growth and Strategy with Rupert Morrison - OrgDev Epsiode 92

1 hr 7 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Strategy is one of the most overused words in organisational life – and one of the least well understood. In this conversation with Rupert Morrison, we explore what strategy actually means, who really owns it, and why so many organisations struggle not with ambition, but with focus. We talk about why strategies so often turn into shopping lists, why prioritisation is harder than it looks, and how pace, culture, and execution collide once a strategy meets the real world. It’s a practical, grounded discussion about making strategy simpler, sharper, and genuinely useful – without pretending the work itself is simple. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Stop Educating Start Learning - The Secret to Performance with Nick Shackleton-Jones OrgDev Episode 91

54 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! This week on the OrgDev Podcast we’re joined by the brilliantly provocative Nick Shackleton-Jones, a guest who never fails to challenge how organisations think about learning. Nick brings energy, clarity and a healthy dose of disruption as he unpicks why so much workplace learning fails to change behaviour and what actually works instead.  He shares a rallying cry of resources not courses along with stories about simulations and onboarding that genuinely sets people up to succeed. This is a lively, thought-provoking conversation packed with practical insights. If you’ve ever felt frustrated by tick-box training, overloaded programmes or learning that looks good on paper but goes nowhere in practice, this episode will give you plenty to reflect on and experiment with. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Organisation Development Pro Tips for Improving Performance - Part 2 - OrgDev Episode 90

31 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Top tips from leading Organisation Development and Design Experts This is part 2 of a special highlights episode. This year has been a big one for us. We recorded 44 episodes, and the podcast reached listeners in 109 countries. Our guests joined us from as far afield as California, Spain and Australia – as well as Austria, the Netherlands and Sweden, and together we covered a broad spectrum of practice – from neuroscience and psychological safety, to systems thinking, agility, self-organising teams, imposter syndrome, and organisation design. What we’ve pulled together here is a curated set of highlights from those conversations. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Organisation Development Pro Tips for Improving Performance - Part 1 - OrgDev Episode 89

35 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! op tips from leading Organisation Development and Design Experts This is a special highlights episode.This year has been a big one for us. We recorded 44 episodes, and the podcast reached listeners in 109 countries. Our guests joined us from as far afield as California, Spain and Australia – as well as Austria, the Netherlands and Sweden, and together we covered a broad spectrum of practice – from neuroscience and psychological safety, to systems thinking, agility, self-organising teams, imposter syndrome, and organisation design. What we’ve pulled together here is a curated set of highlights from those conversations. The video is divided into four chapters, so feel free to dip in where your interest takes you, or watch it end to end. Looking ahead, next year is shaping up to be just as strong. We’ve got conversations lined up with leading practitioners including Dave Snowden, Gervase Bushe, and Rupert Morrison, and we’re really looking forward to sharing their insights with you. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to conne...

Leading with Purpose, Not Control with Dr Louise Van Rhyn - OrgDev Episode 88

1 hr 3 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does leadership look like when it’s driven by purpose rather than control? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Dr Louise Van Rhyn, social entrepreneur, leadership and organisation development practitioner, and founder of Symphonia. Louise shares powerful insights from more than four decades of practice working with leaders, organisations and large-scale social change initiatives across South Africa and beyond. We explore why certainty shuts down contribution, how unsolicited advice is often experienced as judgement, and what it really means to lead as a citizen rather than a parent or expert. Louise reflects on her work with Partners for Possibility, the role of listening in leadership, and why leadership development only works when it is connected to the wider organisational system. This conversation is a deep invitation to rethink leadership as creating the conditions for others to think, contribute and thrive rather than having the answers or exerting control. You’ll hear about  – Leading with purpose, not authority  – Why relationships shape thinking, action and results  – Citizen leadership and shared responsibility  – The hidden cost of certainty in leadership  – Listening as a core leadership practice  – Why leadership development is organisational development A thoughtful and challenging episode for leaders, OD practitioners, HR professionals and anyone interested in more human, effective ways of working together Dr. Louise van Rhyn is a distinguished social entrepreneur and leadership development practitioner. She is the founder and CEO of Symphonia Leadership Development, a social enterprise dedicated to developing leadership capacity at scale. Dr. van Rhyn's work focuses on mobilizing active citizenship and addressing significant social issues through cross-sector collaboration and citizen leadership. Her innovative leadership development process, Partners for Possibility, has positi...

Why Transformation Fails - And What Works with Dr Gwen Stirling Wilkie - OrgDev Episode 86

1 hr 4 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why Do Transformations and Change Fail - And What Can Leaders Do About It?  Where do leaders go when the map runs out – when the terrain ahead is shifting faster than they can chart it? Today on the OrgDev Podcast, we’re stepping into the space where the known meets the unknown, and where transformation takes root. In this episode. we’ll hear how Gwen blends rigour and relationality, why she believes leadership must be both human-centred and AI-enabled, and what seeds she’s planting for the future of Organisation Development. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Design Thinking for Real-World Workplace Problems with Giles Wright - OrgDev Episode 87

58 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How Can Design Thinking Solve Your Organisation's Most Intractable Problems? Design thinking has transformed how we approach products and services - but what does it really look like when we apply it to people, culture, and organisations?  How do we move from post-it notes and empathy maps to real organisational change?  To explore the intersection between design thinking and organisation development, we’re joined by Giles Wright – an experienced practitioner who’s helped leaders and organisations use design principles to rethink systems, services and culture   Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Rethinking Leadership When the World Won't Behave with Professor Chris Mowles - OrgDev Episode 85

52 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Is it time to rethink leadership and management? Many leaders work under the illusion that they can control what goes on but in reality organisations are messy, and unpredictable. So what does this Complexity  really means for how organisations function, how leaders make decisions, and how people navigate uncertainty. One person who has challenged the neat models and tidy solutions we often reach for – instead opens up more real, human, and sometimes uncomfortable conversations about leadership, change, and organisational life is Professor Chris Mowles Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

How to Deliver Strategy at Scale with Maria Farres Cancer Research UK - orgdev episode 84

56 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to deliver on an ambitious strategy – especially in a mission-driven organisation where the stakes are high and capacity is limited? How do you align people, processes, and systems to deliver on the organisation's ambitions? Our guest this week is the Maria Farres, Director of Organisational Development & Employee Experience at Cancer Research UK, where she leads work on org. development, leadership & talent, EDI, employee experience, and building change capability across the charity. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Leading Transformation and Change with Sophy Pern Ammalo - OrgDev Episode 83

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What really derails a change project – the plan, or the relationships behind it? Our guest today, Sophy Pern, has spent her career helping leaders and teams untangle the relational dynamics that quietly shape whether strategy and change succeed or stall. An international consultant, facilitator and executive coach, she works with executive leaders on strategy engagement, organisation design, operating models, culture change and team development. Sophy is known for bringing depth, clarity and humanity to complex organisational challenges, and for building OD and Design capability in organisations and professional communities across Europe. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Master the Art and Science of Organisation Design and Change with Jaimini Lakhani - OrgDev Episode 82

1 hr 3 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you make sure your organisation’s design is truly fit for purpose – not just neat on paper, but aligned to the strategy your future depends on? And how do you work with senior leaders in a way that builds real trust – so you can understand how value is created in their world, and the tough trade-offs that come with redesigning it? Today we’re joined by Jaimini Lakhani – founder of Lumiere Consulting and a leading expert in organisation design and strategy. Jaimini has helped some of the world’s most recognisable organisations navigate complex moments of change, connecting strategy, structure and people in ways that deliver real impact. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

The Power of Presence - Inner work of the OD Practitioner with Dr Frances Baldwin - OrgDev Episode 81

1 hr 9 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What separates good OD practice from great OD practice – skill, strategy, or self-awareness? You can have the tools. The models. The frameworks. But what really shapes your impact as an OD practitioner? According to Dr Frances Baldwin, it’s not what you do – it’s who you are. Frances has been shaping the field of Organisation Development for more than five decades. Yet when you ask her what truly makes a difference in this work, she doesn’t start with methods or models. She talks about presence. About congruence. About the quality of the inner condition we bring to our practice. After fifty years of working across industries and continents, Frances is clear: it’s your presence, purpose and self-awareness that enable trust, unlock change and create real impact. In this episode, she brings depth, wisdom and a lifetime of embodied OD practice to the conversation – reminding us that development always begins with who we are. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 htt...

How to Tackle Stubborn Business Problems with Phil Lewis - OrgDev Episode 80

49 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to Solve Complex Business Problems? Organisations are not machines – and they certainly don’t run on machine logic. Solving the toughest business problems isn’t about pulling levers or rewriting process charts. It’s about people: how they work together, how they make sense of their world, and how they feel. But people don’t operate in neat, predictable ways. We delete, distort, and generalise the reality around us – which makes organisational life messy, complex, and often resistant to simple solutions. In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Phil Lewis, a consultant, strategist and thinker based in Scotland, who specialises in helping organisations tackle their most stubborn challenges. 💼Phil Lewis Phil's website to access his services and writing: philhq.com Join Phil's insightful Workforces newsletter: https://philhq.us17.list-manage.com/s... Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Imposter Phenomenon with Dr Kate Atkin - OrgDev Episode 79

53 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Have you ever worried you’ll be “found out” or dismissed your own successes as luck? You’re not alone. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Kate Atkin, author of The Imposter Phenomenon: Why You Feel Like a Fraud and What to Do About It.  Kate brings both personal experience and rigorous research to the conversation, busting myths (it’s phenomenon, not syndrome) and sharing practical strategies for navigating self-doubt. We explore how imposter feelings show up in organisations, why the right kind of feedback matters, and how psychological courage helps us update the story we tell ourselves. It’s an honest and hopeful conversation that we're pretty sure will resonate with many leaders and practitioners Join Kate's Book Launch for free: There are three options, London on 3rd September, Cambridge on 28th October and online on 6th November. The details and booking are available through Eventbrite using this link: https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/the-imp...  Please also feel free to share this with others if you wish. Buy Kate's book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Imposter-Phe... Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support...

Neurodiversity in the Workplace with Melanie Francis - OrgDev Episode 78

1 hr 2 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Mel Francis, Director of Neurodiversity at Work at Do-IT Solutions, to explore how organisations can move beyond simply accommodating difference to designing workplaces where all kinds of brains can thrive. Mel shares practical strategies for embedding neuroinclusive thinking across the employee lifecycle – from recruitment and onboarding to performance, progression, and everyday management. Drawing on her HR expertise and lived experience as a parent of a neurodivergent son, she challenges outdated stereotypes, highlights the risks of unintentionally excluding talent, and offers simple, low-cost changes that benefit everyone. This is an essential listen for anyone looking to create a truly inclusive culture that values neurodiversity as a strength.  Follow Melanie's work at www.doitprofiler.com and get in contact via info@doitprofiler.com Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrou...

Disruption Change and Transformation with Dr Andrew Day - OrgDev Episode 77

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Change and Transformation. What if the way most organisations approach transformation is fundamentally flawed? In this episode, Dr. Andrew Day turns the usual change management playbook on its head. Drawing on decades of work with leaders across sectors and continents, he explores why transformation isn’t something you can manage from the top – and why the real work is social, emotional, and far messier than any plan on paper. We dig into what really happens to people during change, why standard tools often miss the point, and how leaders can work with – rather than against – the human side of transformation. Buy Andrew's brilliant book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Disruption-C... Dr. Andrew Day has over 30 years’ experience working with leaders across the globe to develop and improve how organisations function. He believes that lasting, meaningful change happens only when those affected are actively involved in co-creating new working practices and structures. His work has taken him around the world with clients in the private, public and third sectors, including Ford Motor Company, GSK, BP, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, the UK Civil Service, Cancer Research UK, the NHS and many more. A former internal consultant at Ford Motor Company and senior member of faculty at Ashridge Business School, Andrew combines first-hand insight into the realities of organisational life with a deep grounding in the research and theory of organisational development and transformation. He specialises in team facilitation, executive coaching, systemic consulting and participative organisation design, and is the author of Disruption, Change & Transformation in Organisations, which explores the impact and consequences of disruptive change – and how people can navigate it effectively. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page...

Become a Next Generation HR Leader with Dave Ulrich and TV Rao - OrgDev Episode 76

46 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if the future of HR isn’t about getting a seat at the table - but redesigning the table altogether? In a world shaped by paradox, uncertainty and stakeholder pressure, the next generation of HR leaders must be architects of value—not just participants in strategy. It’s about creating human capability that drives stakeholder value—for employees, customers, communities, investors and boards.  For this episode, we're joined from the US  by the Father of modern HR, Dave Ulrich and the Father of HRD in India, TV Rao. They’re both architects of the Global HR Leadership Experience (GHRLE), a new 100 day development program aimed at preparing the next generation of HR leaders who can deliver value for multiple stakeholders across global contexts. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Organisation Development in the Age of Uncertainty with Toby Lindsay - OrgDev Episode 75

59 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! OD in Complexity, Change and Transformation What gets in the way when strategy and change aren’t truly connected – when the people leading strategy and the people leading change don’t even see their work as part of the same conversation? We’re delighted to be joined by Toby Lindsay, Senior Consultant in Leadership and Organisational Development at The King’s Fund and Lead Consultant at Lindsay Associates Toby has dedicated his career to exploring and supporting how organisations navigate complexity – and what it really takes to really align people, strategy and change Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Agility, AI and OD with Professor Chris Worley - OrgDev Episode 74

1 hr 14 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it really take to build a responsive, high-performing organisation – one that learns, adapts, and endures? Today, we’re joined all the way from California by one of the world’s leading thinkers on organisation agility, Dr Chris Worley – co-author of The Agility Factor and a pioneer in the fields of organisation development, strategic change, and design. In this episode, we explore what agility really means (beyond the buzzword), how AI is reshaping organisational life, and what it takes to lead through complexity. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Dark Patterns - Why Good Managers Do Bad Things with Guido Palazzo - OrgDev Episode 73

48 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Business Ethics - Corporate Scandals and Failure - CEO Failings Why do good people do bad things? What drives epic ethical failure in organizations? Have you ever read about a corporate scandal in the news and thought that next time, it could be you and your organization? Probably not. We all tend to believe that bad things are done by bad people. And since we consider ourselves to be decent human beings, we don’t believe we would ever engage in similar behavior. And yet, most of the time, it is normal people like you and me who push organizations over the ethical edge. In this episode, we’re joined by Professor Guido Palazzo. Professor Guido is a globally recognised expert on why unethical behaviour occurs in organisations. He is author of the brilliant book Dark Patterns (also available on Audiobook!) Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Systemic Leadership - Seeing Patterns Not Just People | Dr Martin Miksits - OrgDev Episode 72

43 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it mean to take a systemic approach to leadership and change? It means focusing not just on individuals, but on the patterns, relationships,  between people, teams and different parts of the organisation. It also explores how leaders and team members make sense of what’s happening around them.  Who better to help us explore this powerful approach to understanding the social worlds of organisations than Dr Martin Miksits. Dr. Martin is a leading consultant and academic in this exciting and fascinating field! Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

OD in the C-Suite - OD as a Strategic Function with Thomas Lindqvist, King - OrgDev Episode 71

57 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What happens when the Organisation Development team doesn’t sit in HR – but reports directly to senior leadership instead? What difference does it make reporting into the C-suite? How does it shape the culture, how decisions are made and ways of working?  Thomas Lindqvist is Senior Director of Organisational Development at King – and he shares his perspective on how OD can play it's full role in the C-suite Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Learning that Moves the Needle with Michelle Parry-Slater - OrgDev Episode 70

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Learning and Development that moves the needle. How do you design learning for high performance. What kind of friction is slowing your organisation down—and is it the kind that challenges, or the kind that quietly corrodes performance? In Organisation Development, we often look to build capability, improve systems, and align people to strategy. But sometimes the biggest gains come not from adding new layers, but from removing the friction that’s already there.. Our guest expert  Michelle Parry-Slater is on a mission to explore this area and offers a practical take on how to spot and reduce these points of drag Michelle Parry-Slater Follow Michelle on LinkedIn   / michelleparryslater  Go to the Kairos website: https://www.kairosmodernlearning.com/ Buy the Learning and Development Handbook here: (use the code at the checkout) https://www.koganpage.com/hr-learning... Get your 20% discount code here: LDH2 Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com...

Alignment The Multiplier for Team Performance with Lindsay Uittenbogaard Mirror Mirror - OrgDev Episode 69

54 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why does progress feel harder than it should, even when everyone’s working flat out? Why do good teams struggle to have the right conversations, make clear decisions, or follow through effectively? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore the invisible drag on performance: team misalignment. When people act on different assumptions, even the most committed teams end up stuck in confusion, slow decisions and fractured collaboration. It’s not about effort – it’s about shared understanding. And alignment is what cuts through the fog. But alignment doesn’t just happen. That’s why we’re joined by Lindsay Uittenbogaard, Founder of Mirror Mirror and a leading expert on team alignment, to discuss: What alignment really means (beyond just agreement) Why misalignment is often overlooked How to make alignment a standard part of how teams work If you’re leading change, running teams or supporting strategy delivery – this episode is for you Go to the Mirror Mirror website: https://mirrormirroralignment.com/ Follow Lindsay and Mirror Mirror on Substack: https://mirrormirroralignment.substac... Become a Mirror Mirror Practitioner: https://mirrormirroralignment.com/get... Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic developm...

What Agile Leadership Really Looks Like -Linda Holbeche - OrgDev Epsiode 68

59 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Agile Leadership.  How do you build an organisation that can adapt – not just survive, but thrive?How do you define organisational agility, and why is it crucial for businesses in today's rapidly changing environment?  Across organisations, Expectations keep rising, while resources don’t and change just keeps on coming. This week, we’re joined by Dr Linda Holbeach – researcher, author and leading voice in organisation development. Her book The Agile Organisation explores how businesses can become more responsive, innovative and sustainable – not through surface-level changes, but by rethinking leadership, culture, strategy and people practices.  In this conversation, we talk about: What agility really means in today’s world – beyond the buzzwordsWhy resilience, adaptability and innovation are now critical capabilitiesThe deep tensions leaders face between control and empowermentAnd what HR and OD teams can do to enable lasting, meaningful change Buy Linda's books  here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B001IZPJ16/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=3ff53028-63d1-4d26-bc22-4aa4426f753f Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coa...

Making Smarter Moves with Systems Thinking with Derek Cabrera and Laura Cabrera - OrgDev Episode 67

51 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Things change when our thinking changes. So why do so many organisations still rely on outdated mental models to tackle today’s complex challenges? In this episode, From developing foundational theories like DSRP and VMCL, to shaping national education programmes and training leaders across sectors, we’re joined by two of the most influential figures in the systems thinking world This conversation explores what it really means to think systemically—and why it matters now more than ever. Visit the Cabrera Lab website here: https://www.cabreraresearch.org/ Buy Derek and Laura's books here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Derek... Subscribe to the Cabrera Lab Podcast here:    / @cabreralabpodcast   Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Neuroscience of Learning and Behaviour Change with Stella Collins - OrgDev Episode 66

1 hr 0 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How can we leverage what neuroscience experts know about the brain to design learning that actually sticks? If we know so much about how the brain works – why is so much learning still designed in ways that ignore it?  In this episode, we’re looking into what neuroscience can teach us about how people and organisations really learn – not just in theory, but in practice. We explore how memory works, how we build skills and retain knowledge, and even the role of exercise in boosting cognitive performance. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Culture as a Growth Strategy with Tanja Lopez ReMarkable OrgDev Episode 65

57 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to scale a company without losing its soul? How can you grow an organization without losing the original ingredients that made it so successful in the first place? Our guest today is Tanya Lopez, VP of Strategic Organizational Development at reMarkable. Tanya and her team have played a pivotal role in supporting reMarkable's growth from 120 to 500 employees, shaping, its culture, and ways of working. They leading on strategic initiatives in organization design, leadership development and capability building. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

How to Start Your Career in Organisation Development with Dr. William Brendel - OrgDev Episode 64

50 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this jam-packed episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we welcome the brilliant and boundlessly productive Dr. William (Bill) Brendel - award-winning OD educator, researcher, consultant, and founder of OpensourceOD.com. If you’ve ever wondered "What kind of OD practitioner am I?" or "How do I actually get into this field?" then this episode is for you. Bill shares insights from over 25 years of global OD consulting and cutting-edge research, including his work developing the MOST (Mastering Organizational and Societal Transformation) assessment - the first psychometrically validated OD competency model. Based on thousands of job descriptions, this tool helps emerging and seasoned practitioners align their strengths and interests with real-world career paths, providing clarity in a field often marked by ambiguity. We unpack the challenges of entering and navigating OD careers, from the blurry boundaries of OD roles to the messy reality of job descriptions that rarely reflect the true nature of the work. Bill discusses how Opensource OD is helping bridge the gap between academia and practice, offering a "dojo" for practitioners to build technical skills and reflective wisdom through immersive, real-world case studies contributed by legends like Ed Schein and Peter Block. Other highlights include: Why OD is best understood as evolving practice rooted in a three-part test: social + technical + influenceHow social presencing theater and design thinking are being used in traditional settingsThe ethical dilemmas OD professionals face, and how reflective practice and “use of self” help navigate themHow to thrive in a world of “permanent whitewater” with mindfulness and intentional learningThis episode is a goldmine for anyone shaping or shifting their OD path. Dive in and discover your next step. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Po...

Organisations Without Bosses, How Self-Management Works with Paul Jansen - OrgDev Episode 63

55 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if your organisation didn’t need a traditional hierarchy to thrive? Are endless meetings, layers of approval, and rigid structures holding your team back? Could self-management be the key to unlocking greater agility, innovation, and trust? These are questions we've been wanting to explore for a long time on the OrgDev Podcast. In this episode, we’re joined by self-management expert Paul Jansen, who shares what it really takes to make self-management work – not just as a concept, but as a practical, sustainable way of operating. From decision-making without hierarchy to building accountability in a distributed system, Paul brings both clarity and experience to one of the most misunderstood ideas in organisation design. Whether you're curious, cautious, or already experimenting with self-management, this one’s full of insight. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

Elevate Your OD Impact - The Intentional OD Practitioner with Regan Miller OrgDev Epsiode 62

47 min

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does good OD practice actually look like in action? How do you build your confidence in this field? What does it take to lead change effectively? If you’ve ever asked yourself these questions, this episode with Regan Miller for you. Starting a career in OD isn’t like stepping into a traditional profession. There’s no set path, no clear-cut job description that tells you what to do. Regan Miller is a seasoned organisation design and development consultant working with public sector organisations around the world. Her career spans both public and private sectors, with early experience in training and development roles before moving into HR leadership and consulting positions within the U.S. federal government.  She is also co-author of 2 excellent books - The Accidental OD Practitioner and The Intentional OD Practitioner. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get:  ■ Key insights from the episode  ■ A reflection prompt  ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live  We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

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