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Power Lines is the next chapter of Maxed Out. Hosted by journalist and columnist Max Fawcett, every episode brings you candid conversations with politicians, economists, academics and industry leaders on energy, climate, Alberta and the future of the country. Expect the same sharp analysis, honest conversations and rigorous questioning, with guests who don't always agree with each other -- or with Max. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Carney's budget has big breaks for businesses, but what about you? with economist Armine Yalnizyan

51 min

Economist Armine Yalnizyan joins Max to examine whether the federal budget meets the moment. Yalnizyan argues that Carney is relying on a familiar economic playbook of corporate tax incentives, despite decades of disappointing business investment. She explains why Canada's overlooked care economy is central to solving its productivity problems, especially as the population ages. Enjoying the chat? Subscribe to Canada's National Observer for just $1 a month: www.nationalobserver.com/subscribe Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The political revolt brewing among young Canadians, with Abacus Data CEO David Coletto

45 min

Max Fawcett sits down with David Coletto, CEO of Abacus Data, to examine the state of political polling after the U.S. midterms and what the latest data reveals about young Canadians and the growing generational divide. They explore why millennials and Gen Z feel the economic system is failing them, how housing affordability and job insecurity are shaping their political attitudes, and why neither the Liberals nor Conservatives can count on their loyalty. Enjoying the chat? Subscribe to Canada's National Observer for just $1 a month: www.nationalobserver.com/subscribe Check out David's Substack here: https://davidcoletto.substack.com/ Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The case for climate optimism with Chris Turner

42 min

Award-winning author Chris Turner, whose book How to Be a Climate Optimist makes the case for hope in the face of the climate crisis, joins Max today. They discuss why clean technologies are spreading faster than many expected, even in places where climate policy isn't driving the change. They also examine what Canada's carbon tax debate has taught us about climate politics, whether Mark Carney can deliver on climate action and why selling people on the immediate benefits of clean technology may be more effective than warning them about the future. What did you think of this conversation? Let us know in the comments. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Carney's budget has big breaks for businesses, but what about you? with economist Armine Yalnizyan

51 min

Economist Armine Yalnizyan joins Max to examine whether the federal budget meets the moment. Yalnizyan argues that Carney is relying on a familiar economic playbook of corporate tax incentives, despite decades of disappointing business investment. She explains why Canada's overlooked care economy is central to solving its productivity problems, especially as the population ages. Enjoying the chat? Subscribe to Canada's National Observer for just $1 a month: www.nationalobserver.com/subscribe Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The political revolt brewing among young Canadians, with Abacus Data CEO David Coletto

45 min

Max Fawcett sits down with David Coletto, CEO of Abacus Data, to examine the state of political polling after the U.S. midterms and what the latest data reveals about young Canadians and the growing generational divide. They explore why millennials and Gen Z feel the economic system is failing them, how housing affordability and job insecurity are shaping their political attitudes, and why neither the Liberals nor Conservatives can count on their loyalty. Enjoying the chat? Subscribe to Canada's National Observer for just $1 a month: www.nationalobserver.com/subscribe Check out David's Substack here: https://davidcoletto.substack.com/ Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The case for climate optimism with Chris Turner

42 min

Award-winning author Chris Turner, whose book How to Be a Climate Optimist makes the case for hope in the face of the climate crisis, joins Max today. They discuss why clean technologies are spreading faster than many expected, even in places where climate policy isn't driving the change. They also examine what Canada's carbon tax debate has taught us about climate politics, whether Mark Carney can deliver on climate action and why selling people on the immediate benefits of clean technology may be more effective than warning them about the future. What did you think of this conversation? Let us know in the comments. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

British Columbia's political shakeup with Sandy Garossino

52 min

On Power Lines today, Sandy Garossino, former Crown prosecutor and columnist for Canada's National Observer, unpacks the B.C. election and the defeat of David Eby's NDP government. She and Max discuss how the Conservatives found success by moving toward the political centre and what the election means for Indigenous rights and resource development in the province. They also examine Alberta's referendum, the future of Western alienation and how Mark Carney's approach to pipelines and clean energy could reshape Canada's economic future. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Alberta's separatists helped elect Danielle Smith. Now what? with Dr. Lisa Young

37 min

What happens when the people who helped put you in power turn against you? Max Fawcett sits down with Dr. Lisa Young, a political science professor at the University of Calgary, to unpack the fallout from Alberta's referendum and what it means for Smith's political future. They discuss whether Smith can hold her party together, what the referendum results reveal about support for separatism, and how Alberta's political and business elites have helped fuel Western alienation. Lisa also explains what her research into populism reveals about Alberta voters, including some surprising findings about democracy. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Former Alberta minister Shannon Phillips on Danielle Smith, climate and the next political fight

51 min

Max Fawcett and former Alberta NDP MLA and environment minister Shannon Phillips unpack the fallout from the referendum and what comes next for the province. They discuss why Phillips believes Smith is facing pressure from within her own party, whether the province’s NDP missed an opportunity during the referendum campaign, and the serious concerns about proposed changes to Alberta's electoral boundaries. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Are Alberta and B.C. headed for a political shakeup? with Shachi Kurl

31 min

Max reunites with Shachi Kurl, president of the Angus Reid Institute and his former co-panellist on a CBC show a decade ago, to unpack a pivotal moment in Canadian politics. With Albertans heading to the polls in a referendum, the two discuss what the results could mean for Danielle Smith and whether separatism has created divisions within her conservative base. Plus, Shachi explains the shifting political landscape in British Columbia, why climate change has slipped down voters' priority lists and the competing factions within Carney's Liberal coalition. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Why young Canadians can't afford the lives their parents had with Ali Amad

31 min

Max Fawcett speaks with journalist Ali Amad, author of the Maclean's feature The Great Generational Rip-Off, to discuss why homeownership, starting a family and saving for retirement have become increasingly difficult for younger Canadians. They also explore potential solutions, including reforms to Old Age Security, taxing wealth and finding a fairer way to share Canada's resources across generations. Read Ali's Maclean's story, The Great Generational Rip-Off: https://macleans.ca/longforms/the-great-generational-rip-off/ Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Who is Danielle Smith, really? with Jeremy Appel

56 min

Who is Danielle Smith, really? And how did she make one of the most remarkable political comebacks in Alberta history? Max Fawcett sits down with Alberta journalist Jeremy Appel, author of the new book Dark Phoenix: The Rise, Fall, and Re-emergence of Danielle Smith, to unpack the political career of Alberta's premier. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A Calgary Liberal MP on separatism, pipelines & Western alienation with Corey Hogan

35 min

Corey Hogan is a Liberal MP for Calgary Confederation and a former senior Alberta government official who has worked under both the NDP and UCP. He and Max discuss Alberta’s upcoming referendum -- including Danielle Smith’s approach to separatism and why conservative politicians have been “playing with the separatist live wires.” The two also dig into Western alienation and Hogan’s argument that Western Canada has too often been treated as an afterthought. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Canada's future is clean tech, whether politicians admit it or not with Phil de Luna

41 min

Max Fawcett sits down with Phil De Luna, co-founder and CTO of Alberta-based climate technology startup CURA, to discuss why he believes Canada's push to attract investment could also accelerate the country's clean energy transition. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The $442-billion problem with Alberta separation with Trevor Tombe

36 min

Max and economist Trevor Tombe dig into the financial realities of Alberta separation. They dig into what an independent Alberta could mean for the province’s debt, taxes, pensions, public services, and borrowing costs—and why the fiscal benefits separatists promise may not be as straightforward as they seem. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How MAGA is hurting Canada's Conservatives with Anthony Koch

39 min

Max talks to Anthony Koch, managing principal of AK Strategies and a longtime Conservative strategist, about what’s happening inside Canadian conservatism. They cover why Conservatives are struggling to adjust to PM Mark Carney while digging into Donald Trump and MAGA’s influence on Canadian conservative politics. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The energy transition isn’t slowing down. Is Canada? with Sara Hastings-Simon

35 min

Max sits down with the University of Calgary's Sara Hastings-Simon to take stock of the global energy transition and what it means for Canada. They talk about the rapid growth of renewables and the future of oil demand, whether the oil sands’ Pathways carbon capture project still makes economic sense and how Prime Minister Mark Carney is handling the climate file. And of course, they dig into Alberta’s data centre boom. Do you agree with Max and Sara? Where do you think they’re wrong? Let us know. Music credit: Energy Rock Bundle by Basspartout, via Envato Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Canada is sleepwalking into a national security crisis with Patrick Lennox

32 min

On this latest episode of Powerlines, Max speaks with former national security investigator Patrick Lennox about foreign interference, disinformation and why he believes Canadians are "sleepwalking" into a dangerous moment. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is Canada betting on the wrong energy future? with Heather Exner-Pirot

35 min

Max and Heather Exner-Pirot of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute talk Canada's energy strategy. They get into whether global demand for fossil fuels will continue to grow, if renewables are advancing faster than the industry expects and whether new pipelines still make economic sense. Buckle in. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is Carney supporting the oil and gas industry or sabotaging it? with Margareta Dovgal

51 min

Max Fawcett sits down with Margareta Dovgal, managing director of Resource Works, for a debate on Canada's energy future. They discuss whether federal climate policies are driving away investment, the future of pipelines and Canada's regulatory system, and much more. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is Canada failing the next generation? with Paul Kershaw

37 min

Are younger Canadians paying the price for decades of political short-term thinking? Max Fawcett talks with Dr. Paul Kershaw of Generation Squeeze about housing, healthcare, retirement spending, climate policy and the growing generational divide in Canada. They ask a difficult question: can Canada become fair again for young people? Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The death (and life) of great climate policy with Dr. Kathryn Harrison

47 min

Max Fawcett is joined by Dr. Kathryn Harrison, a political science professor at UBC and expert on climate and energy policy, to unpack how Canadian climate politics have shifted from the Trudeau era to the current rollback of key policies. They talk about why public concern about climate is so cyclical, how federal-provincial tensions and global energy trends are reshaping Canada’s fossil fuel future and what it would actually take for climate to matter to voters again. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the NDP vs the NDP with David Moscrop

31 min

Following the election of Avi Lewis as leader of the federal NDP, cracks are forming between the federal party and its provincial counterparts. Alberta NDP leader Naheed Nenshi came out swinging following Lewis' election, as did Saskatchewan NDP leader Carla Beck — both raising concerns with Lewis' hopes for a fossil fuel-free future. David Moscrop joins Max Fawcett to talk about how the NDP can mend fences, and what a reinvigorated party will mean for the political landscape currently dominated by two parties. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How to keep Alberta in Canada with Dan Arnold

29 min

Max Fawcett is joined by pollster Dan Arnold to talk through the Alberta independence referendum and why Canadians shouldn’t be complacent about its potential to tear Canada apart. Also: Dan bets the over/under on the “yes” vote. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Canadian oil in the Iran war era with Rory Johnston

40 min

Max Fawcett is joined by Rory Johnston, the founder of Commodity Context and one of Canada’s best oil analysts. They talk about what the war in Iran means for oil supplies, Canada’s future, and the prospects of a new West Coast pipeline. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bitcoin or Bust (Summer rerun)

34 min

Is Bitcoin a legitimate alternative currency? Is it the currency of the disenchanted? Or the hedge against a rocky future? Max Fawcett talks with Bitcoin enthusiast Adam O'Brien about that as well as government overreach, the Ottawa occupation and the seizing of bank accounts. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Special Episode: Protecting Haida Gwaii

36 min

Haida Gwaii is a stretch of islands teeming with life just off the coast of British Columbia. The land, its skies, and the bodies of water around it have been protected for thousands of years by local Haida guardians. Protecting Haida Gwaii is a story about a First Nation that continues the fight for its rights, despite having inhabited the territory for thousands of years. Read more about Haida Gwaii at Canada’s National Observer. Written by Brandi Morin Edited by Zahra Khozema Cover art by Ata Ojai Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Greedflation and Justflation (Summer rerun)

35 min

Greedflation, justflation, and even shrinkflation are the newest terms to describe what we have all been going through financially for the past two years. And on top of this, we have rising interest rates. Is there anything that can be done to ease the pressure? Max speaks to economist Armine Yalnizyan to find out. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nuclear Revolution (Summer rerun)

26 min

Can nuclear be part of the fight against carbon emissions? In some places, nuclear is back in vogue. Max Fawcett talks with an environmentalist who thinks it is essential for nuclear to be part of the solution because renewables aren't yet at the scale needed to solve the problem. And she's not alone. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Urban-Rural Divide (Summer rerun)

33 min

The carbon tax is misunderstood and controversial. The federal government's price on polluting is one of its strategies to fight the climate crisis. But is it working? And is it fair? Max Fawcett talks to a Saskatchewan farmer who feels rural Canada and, in particular, agriculture, is being hit too hard by the tax. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mobilizing for War (Summer rerun)

37 min

Should we treat the climate emergency like a war? Seth Klein thinks so. In his book A Good War: Mobilizing Canada for the Climate Emergency, Klein lays out a comparison between the Second World War and the climate crisis. He argues that we can't win the war unless we work together like we did in the war against the Nazis. Max isn't so sure. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Egos & Apologies in Alberta Elections

32 min

Jeromy Farkas might be called a cautionary tale of politics and political friends. Max talks to the former city councillor and Calgary 2021 mayoral election runner-up about his take on the recent provincial election and the highs and lows of his career in the Conservative circle. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bitcoin or Bust

34 min

Is Bitcoin a legitimate alternative currency? Is it the currency of the disenchanted? Or the hedge against a rocky future? Max Fawcett talks with Bitcoin enthusiast Adam O'Brien about that as well as government overreach, the Ottawa occupation and the seizing of bank accounts. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nuclear Revolution

25 min

Can nuclear be part of the fight against carbon emissions? In some places, nuclear is back in vogue. Max Fawcett talks with an environmentalist who thinks it is essential for nuclear to be part of the solution because renewables aren't yet at the scale needed to solve the problem. And she's not alone. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Politics of Pandemics

27 min

Janet Bufton believes in libertarianism ⁠— a philosophy that argues for minimal government involvement in people's lives. However, she's thankful for the federal government's intervention during the pandemic. Max Fawcett thinks most libertarians behaved badly during the pandemic by making it about their civil liberties rather than coming together to fight the common enemy ⁠— Covid-19. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Rachel Notley Interview

26 min

Max Fawcett asks Rachel Notley if the NDP have the policies to win the next Alberta election. The former Premier of Alberta gets into the energy transition, health care and door-knocking. Oh, and she also talks about political interference in the judicial system. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The LNG Debate

26 min

The fossil fuel industry considers Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) as a tool for emissions reduction. It is used to replace coal as a power source in many countries. Canada sees exporting LNG as a contribution to meeting our climate commitments. Max Fawcett isn't so sure. And he's talking it through with historian and CEO of Resource Works, Stewart Muir. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Firewall Frenemy

33 min

Ken Boessenkool has been a Conservative strategist for more than 20 years. He's worked with Canadian politicians like Stephen Harper, Ralph Klein, Christy Clark and Stockwell Day. So, what does he think about the policies of the new kids on the block like Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and Federal Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre? Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Carbon Capture Conundrum

30 min

Some experts say carbon capture is the wrong way to address the climate crisis in Canada and that the government should not fund the fossil fuel industry for this technology. Instead, spending should focus more on renewables. Is it that simple? Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Unjust Transition

29 min

Alberta has been unhappy with Ottawa for a long time. There is a feeling they pay into Canada but don't get enough in return. Some are saying Canada is broken and Alberta should leave the federation. Max speaks to Derek Fildebrandt, a former politician and the head of a major right-leaning provincial publication about whether disconnection is a real solution. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Urban-Rural Divide

32 min

The carbon tax is misunderstood and controversial. The federal government's price on polluting is one of its strategies to fight the climate crisis. But is it working? And is it fair? Max Fawcett talks to a Saskatchewan farmer who feels rural Canada and, in particular, agriculture, is being hit too hard by the tax. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Observer

22 min

Canada's National Observer's publisher, Linda Solomon Wood, chats with Max about journalism, how the publication came to be and who really funds his columns. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Maxed Out Introduces "The Salmon People"

37 min

As we unwind into the holidays, we'd like to bring your attention to another Canada’s National Observer creation: This true crime climate podcast is called The Salmon People. The investigation, by Sandra Bartlett, our Managing Producer for podcasts, takes us off the coast of British Columbia, where wild salmon started dying by the millions. We follow an unlikely detective - a whale biologist - Alexandra Morton - who battles against government, industry and multinational corporations to save Canada’s wild salmon population. You can binge the entire series on your favourite podcast streaming platform. Maxed Out and The Salmon People are made possible by listeners like you. If you’ve supported the podcast already, thank you. If you haven’t, click here to donate what you can to help us keep producing valuable journalism. Got questions or comments? Email us at producer@nationalobserver.com Follow us on Twitter: @NatObserver Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Greedflation and Justflation

35 min

Greedflation, justflation, and even shrinkflation are the newest terms to describe what we have all been going through financially for the past two years. And on top of this, we have rising interest rates. Is there anything that can be done to ease the pressure? Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Polarized Politics

40 min

A discussion with a former Alberta Progressive cabinet minister on politics, oil and gas (of course!) and Danielle Smith's brand of populism. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mobilizing for War

37 min

Should we treat the climate emergency like a war? Seth Klein thinks so.  In his book A Good War: Mobilizing Canada for the Climate Emergency he lays out a comparison between the Second World War and the Climate Crisis. He argues that we can't win the war unless we work together like we did in the war against the Nazi's. Prefer watching? Full video episodes are available on Canada's National Observer YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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