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Reading Michael Jackson

A Music podcast

About the show

Season 2 of "Reading Michael Jackson" offers a thorough reading and review of his 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk." As an author, former college English professor, and Michael Jackson fan, in each episode host Lena reads a section of the book, followed by an in-depth discussion. The goal of this podcast is to honor and appreciate Michael Jackson's legacy as an artist and human being by spending dedicated time with the writing he published throughout his life. Season 1 covered Michael Jackson's book of poetry and reflections, "Dancing the Dream." New episodes released every Tuesday.

Newest episodes

S3x6 "Black or White"

Nov 10, 2026 1 hr 30 min

Though we have covered a number of amazing songs already, "Black or White" is the first of Michael's 13 number 1 hits that we are deep-diving into this season. As a mixed-genre song with rock and rap elements and a controversial short film, "Black or White" is a song with a number of themes and deeper references to uncover, wrapped up in an explosive pop hit. In this discussion, I make several references to Joe Vogel's fantastic book analyzing "Black or White," as well as offer some helpful context for understanding Michael's relationship to Bill Bottrell, the song's co-writer and producer. This episode also contains a discussion and excerpt of Elizabeth Taylor's speech at the United Negro College Fund Ceremony in 1988. Link to Elizabeth Taylor's speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkXVHsGAiS4&t=19s Link to Joseph Vogel's book: https://michaeljacksontheartist.com/products/black-or-white-inside-michael-jacksons-most-controversial-short-film For questions and comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S3x5 "Things I Do For You"

Nov 3, 2026 55 min

Michael Jackson's adult solo career is inarguably one of the greatest discographies of all time. However, his musical contributions extend far beyond those six iconic albums. In 1978, The Jacksons released their first self-produced and nearly entirely self-written album "Destiny." Michael had a few clear favorite songs from that album, adding them to live set lists through the Bad era. One of the funkier ones, "Things I Do for You" is an energetic, highly percussive song with lyrics that feel almost uncomfortably prophetic for the many issues he would face just a few years later, and through the rest of his life. With themes of exploitation, mistrust, and a desire to avoid those looking to use him, this song served as an excellent contribution to his live performances, while also offering some interesting perspectives on the battle for authentic relationships he sought through most of his life. This episode includes clips of the studio recording, as well as Michael's 1987 Bad tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYFgBftFVE&list=RDJiYFgBftFVE&start_radio=1 For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S3x4 "Is it Scary?"

Oct 27, 2026 1 hr 0 min

Though Michael Jackson has long been associated with Halloween due to the popularity of "Thriller," he actually recorded several songs throughout his career that have a distinctly "scary" feeling. One of these lesser known gems is the song "Is it Scary?" released on the 1997 remix album "Blood on the Dance Floor." This gothic-inspired song featured briefly in his short film "Ghosts" has lyrics fit for Halloween, with mention of ghouls, ghosts, and trickery. But beneath that, these lyrics tell a much more frightening story of Michael Jackson's painful emotional response to the relentless media scrutiny and abuse he faced throughout most of his adult life. Join me for this emotional discussion diving deeply into the lyrics of this song and sitting with the agony Michael was expressing. We will even spend some time discussing the critical response to the song and how much of it reflected the very reality he was describing in the storytelling. For questions or comments feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

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All episodes

S3x6 "Black or White"

Nov 10, 2026 1 hr 30 min

S3x5 "Things I Do For You"

Nov 3, 2026 55 min

S3x4 "Is it Scary?"

Oct 27, 2026 1 hr 0 min

S3x3: "Chicago 1945"

Oct 20, 2026 44 min

According to the Songwriter's Hall of Fame, Michael wrote over 200 songs in his lifetime. However, so many of those songs have never been, and never will be heard. The rare unreleased that have leaked online over the years offer amazing insight into Michael's creative process and level of perfection, especially when those he kept in the vault are as good as "Chicago 1945!" Join me in this episode as we read and discuss the lyrics of this high-energy, but darkly-themed song about missing girls and a lack of accountability from the authorities. If you are unfamiliar with the song, please give it a listen (link included below). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkvA-NCV1E&list=RDBUkvA-NCV1E&start_radio=1 For questions and comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S3x2: "Another Part of Me"

Oct 13, 2026 1 hr 1 min

As one of Michael Jackson's most spiritual songs, the deep meaning of "Another Part of Me" can easily overlooked given its inaugural debut in Captain E.O. Though it's meaning certainly aligned with the storyline of the short film, this high energy pop song may often be cast aside as just another great dance hit. However, in this episode we take a slowed down approach, reading the lyrics and analyzing them line-by-line. Though this episode kicks off with a reflection on attending Spike Lee's birthday block party for Michael on August 29 in Brooklyn, NY, the majority of the discussion centers not only on the themes within the lyrics of "Another Part of Me", but also the choices Michael made to alter the lyrics in his live performance of the song. I also touch upon how the unity Michael strives for in these lyrics lives on today in his fandom around the world. For questions or comments please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S3x1: "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"

Oct 6, 2026 52 min

Kicking off our first episode of Season 3 is a deep-dive into arguably one of Michael's strongest album opener's: "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin.'" This high-energy song with it's uplifting and much-sampled outro is undeniably beloved. But how well understood is it? Join me for a slowed down and deeply thoughtful conversation about the meaning in these lyrics and the many messages Michael is conveying to his audience even now, nearly 50 years since it was first released. For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S3x0: Reading Michael Jackson's Lyrics - Season 3 Premiere

Sep 29, 2026 19 min

After a post-biopic summer hiatus, "Reading Michael Jackson" is back with Season 3! Having already covered Michael's books in Seasons 1 and 2, this season we will focus on Michael's most well-known, yet routinely under-appreciated writing: his lyrics. As a songwriter and lyricist Michael tackled themes of inspiration, heartbreak, global unity, humanitarianism, media, social commentary, sex, violence, spirituality, systemic racism, personal growth, love, vulnerability, and more. Yet as an artist, the shine of his aura and his talents as a singer and dancer often lend to his strengths as a songwriter being overlooked, if not entirely ignored. As the premiere of Season 3, this episode will cover my reasoning and decision for choosing Michael's lyrics as our focus this season, as well as my general parameters for picking songs to cover. Next week we will kick off with episode 1, with a full reading and analysis of the lyrics to one of Michael' greatest songs. If you have requests for specific songs to be covered this season, please leave a comment or send an email to readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

BONUS: The Reason Behind Neverland and Michael Jackson's Humanitarian Legacy - 68th Birthday Celebration

Aug 29, 2026 1 hr 36 min

In this special bonus episode of Reading Michael Jackson, we celebrate Michael's 68th birthday with a deep dive into the true meaning behind the creation of his Neverland Ranch, as well as his humanitarian legacy. Featuring interview clips from Neverland's Head of Security Violet Gaitan Booker, Amusement Park Manager Al Scanlan, and Audio support Brad Sundberg, as well as clips from Michael Jackson's own interviews, this episode focuses on the true heart of Neverland, and honoring Michael Jackson's dream of healing the world. Links and resources referenced in episode: Paris Jackson on Call Her Daddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8-dzLECUE&t=562s Paul Dwyer's Humanitarian Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW2YG8HjZxE&t=584s Humanitarian Book: https://www.humanitarianmj.com/ "Big Al" Interview, Humanitarian Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHddfdVHMZE&t=2567s Brand Sundberg Interview, MJCast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Jh7jNbA7k&t=5018s Violent Gaitan Booker, MJCast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUP60S9I-JM&t=1460s Steve Harvey Interview, Michael Jackson, 2001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5poJgHXU4 Rabbi Shmuley Boteach Transcripts with Michael Jackson: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-michael-jackson-tapes-a-tragic-icon-reveals-his-soul-in-intimate-conversation/734582/#edition=5556084&idiq=1723326 Jennifer Love Hewitt on Jimmy Kimmel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCWnQ0vE5d4 Humanitarian fan initiative: https://www.michaeljacksonslegacy.org/

BONUS: "We Had Him" by Maya Angelou - A June 25th Reading and Discussion in Honor of Michael Jackson

Jun 25, 2026 51 min

Seventeen years ago today Michael Jackson passed away and the world descended into a collective grief. Renowned poet Maya Angelou composed the poem "We Had Him" to honor Michael's life, legacy, and the gift of his presence on earth. In today's special June 25th episode of Reading Michael Jackson, join me for a reading and discussion of Angelou's beautiful tribute to Michael, as well as a segment on the many ways we may honor Michael, and his impact, in our own lives. For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com "We Had Him" - https://allpoetry.com/poem/14326539-We-Had-Him-by-Maya-Angelou June 25th, 2025 Episode of RMJ: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6oKjtR8PKoCBT7LqfqpX0T?si=SX6PWtx5S8qXSzl4je40nw

BONUS: How the Media Convinced You Michael Jackson Was Guilty + Recommendations for Understanding the Allegations

Jun 13, 2026 1 hr 8 min

As June 13th marks the anniversary of Michael Jackson being acquitted of all charges in his 2005 trial, this bonus episode of Reading Michael Jackson explores the ongoing media campaign to discredit the jury's findings. With a PhD in Rhetoric, host and former college professor Lena uses rhetorical theories of persuasion and manipulation, to identify specific tactics the media uses in misrepresenting the allegations against Michael Jackson. The episode concludes with a guide for where to begin your research journey into the allegations, citing reputable books, podcasts, and documentaries grounded in court transcripts, depositions, and the FBI's multi-year investigation into Michael Jackson. Sources mentioned in this episode: Documentary Square One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNDb2PVcoM Mary Fischer's 1994 GQ Article, "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/was-micheal-jackson-framed-gq-mary-fisher-oct-1994/ Geraldine Hughes' Book, "Redemption": https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8FNI0?ccs_id=08e8339e-d453-4220-bebc-f400c5d63baa Aphrodite Jones' Book "Conspiracy" https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-Conspiracy-Aphrodite-Jones-ebook/dp/B00LIBDZPC?crid=1VDRDQEL5QRMR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PUIqdIM8-xo6XVaKfJsXRyEEaf8Fu0jplYzgOUK0DAfGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.8l-Qh9wb6hPlmnsxOHI9dwiaGN5QKIACpHTPfdCCVUw&dib_tag=se&keywords=aphrodite+jones+conspiracy&qid=1781114425&s=digital-text&sprefix=aphrodite+jones+conspiracy%2Cdigital-text%2C111&sr=1-1 Joe Vogel, "What You Should Know About the New Michael Jackson Documentary" https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/ Jin Chohan's Documentary, "Leaving Neverland: The Aftermath" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hkNPmpudpc Jin Chohan's GO FUND ME for Documentary, "Trial By Media: The Michael Jackson Story" https://www.gofundme.com/f/themjstorydoc The MJCast Leaving Neverland Roundtable Episode: https://ww...

S2x19 - Full Michael Biopic Review - Season 2 Finale Part 2

May 5, 2026 1 hr 47 min

In this Part 2 of our Season Finale of Reading Michael Jackson, join me for a deep dive into the "Michael" biopic! After six trips to the theater I have a lot to say about this extraordinary film which, at times, both honors and expands on aspects of Michael's own storytelling in "Moonwalk," and at others falls completely short (where is Diana Ross?!). In this episode things get deep as we discuss Michael's childhood trauma, the true meaning of Neverland, the complex characterization of Joe Jackson, the meaning of destiny and manifestation, the long term impact this film will have on Michael Jackson's legacy, and so much more! I hope you enjoyed Season 2 of Reading Michael Jackson. Please follow, like, and subscribe to the show to stay updated on future seasons. For questions, or comments, email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x18 Season Finale PART 1 - Full Review of "Moonwalk" and Hopes for the Michael Jackson Biopic

Apr 19, 2026 1 hr 34 min

In this first part of our Season 2 Finale of Reading Michael Jackson, I offer a full, comprehensive review of "Moonwalk," the one and only autobiography Michael Jackson ever released. While offering a summary of the book, its themes, what its contents and omissions can teach about Michael (and his psychology), its strengths, weaknesses, and role in Michael's legacy, I also deconstruct several reviews written about the book spanning from 1988-2019. In addition to pointed discussion of the book itself, listeners are asked to consider who is the true intended audience for a story of Michael Jackson's life? How does the intended audience shape the way the story is told and received and what value is there in the "critic" perspective? What are we entitled to know about Michael's life, if anything, and what right does he have to privacy in the more intimate areas of his life? Who determines what is "enough" for an autobiography (or biopic) to reveal in order to be seen as an authentic depiction of his life? In addition, tune in for my pre-biopic expectations, considerations, and concerns based on what we learned in "Moonwalk" and beyond. Part 2 of our Season Finale will contain a full review of the Michael biopic in consideration of our reading of Moonwalk and this episode. For questions or comments please feel free to reach out at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x17 "Moonwalk" Ch. 6 Continued, p. 265-283

Apr 14, 2026 1 hr 15 min

Announcement: I will be joining the Michael Jackson Book Club for a livestream event on Saturday April 18th on MJBC Events on Facebook. We will be discussing biographies about Michael Jackson as a lead up to the release of Michael. If you are interested in attending, check out the Michael Jackson Book Club on Facebook! In this week's episode of Reading Michael Jackson, we finally finish our reading of "Moonwalk"! Closing out chapter 6, and the book as a whole, Michael briefly reviews his experience recording the Bad album, while devoting most of his energy in these last few pages to making several "final" statements about his relationship to fame, his admiration for children, passion for performance, and devotion to humanitarian causes. It is evident here that Michael is making one final stitch effort to be "known" by the reader and to reveal something of his true nature in the pages. He even reveals how uncomfortable the concept of a book like this makes him, but the appeal of finally letting people in just a bit more. Despite an overall rushed ending, with many elements of his life post-Thriller jammed into one long final chapter, Michael closes Moonwalk with heart. Join me for the next episode for a final "review" of "Moonwalk." As mentioned in the episode... Jaafar Jackson Interview Magazine: https://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/jaafar-jackson-tells-miles-teller-how-he-unlocked-the-king-of-pop Michael Jackson Interview Magazine: https://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/michael-jackson-1982 Chris Liepe "Speed Demon" Breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_iL8HkUVJI

S2x16 "Moonwalk" Ch. 6 Continued, p. 252-265

Apr 7, 2026 1 hr 10 min

This week as we continue reading Chapter 6 of "Moonwalk," it becomes increasingly apparent that as this book winds down, we have a tremendous number of topics left to cover! In this section alone we learn about Michael's relationship with his sister's, most notably Janet. He also highlights his work on Captain EO, "We are the World" and the early stages of recording the Bad album. In the discussion portion of the episode, I do my best to fill in some additional details that Michael leaves out. As we reach the Bad era, what are some details YOU wish Michael spent more time with? For questions or comments feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x15 "Moonwalk" Chapter 6, p. 235-252

Mar 31, 2026 1 hr 2 min

This week we kick off the final chapter of "Moonwalk," starting with Michael's recollection of the infamous "Pepsi burn," altering the course of his life forever. He also spends some time describing the connection he feels with fans. Recounting memories of the good and bad of the Victory Tour, Michael opens up about the challenges of touring before he was ready to, but giving it his all every show. In the discussion portion of this episode, I spend some time dissecting the impact of the Pepsi incident and, specifically, the ways in which Michael was silenced throughout his life from sharing the incredible physical (and emotional) pain this caused him. I discuss ways in which the media and public response to this incident represents the level of dehumanization Michael faced throughout his life, as well as the nuances of his family encouraging him to tour far before he was physically ready to do so. In this episode, I include clips from Michael's 2005 interview with Geraldo Rivera, as well as the leaked "memoir tapes" in which Michael discusses his frustration with the Victory Tour. For questions or comments, email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com. Geraldo Rivera 2005 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIXedgZAZY Memoir Tapes - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qITnlw5FB38

S2x14 "Moonwalk" Ch. 5 Continued p. 205-231

Mar 24, 2026 1 hr 35 min

To finish off Chapter 5, this week we take on an especially large chunk of Moonwalk. We kick off with Michael's detailed recollection of Motown 25 and the massive success he saw immediately thereafter. As the window to promote the Thriller album began to close, he explains his decision to self-fund and produce the creation of the "Thriller" short film. He shares details about his relationship with Frank Dileo, as well as John Branca, who would go onto become the executor of his estate many years later. Michael also touches upon the evolution of his appearance, defending his changing look to an often critical public. In discussion, I go deep into all of these points and then some, considering how Michael's obsession with perfection may have been rooted in childhood pain, his challenges with his appearance, as well as his choice not disclose his vitiligo, and of course the music and iconography that defined this era of his life and career! I hope you enjoy another long one today! For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S2x13 "Moonwalk" Chapter 5 Continued, p. 194-205

Mar 17, 2026 1 hr 6 min

As we continue Chapter 5 of Moonwalk, Michael takes us through the creation of the entire album by sharing his intentions for writing Beat It and his vision for (and experience of creating) the short film, the creative tension of perfecting the Thriller album as a whole, and more! But in the discussion portion of this episode, I try to take it a step deeper. How and why does Michael continue to gain younger fans? What did the creative tension mean when it came to Michael and Quincy's relationship? How did Michael himself contribute to the creation of Human Nature, even if he was not the songwriter? How did Michael's evolved perspective on the world shape the song and video for Beat It? We dive into all of these aspects of his creative process (and genius) in this episode! For questions or comments please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com Some of the clips included: Babyface (not LA Reid, as I misquoted) discussing MJ vs. other artists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1QYY6D8HA0 Eddie Van Halen discussing "Beat It": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePluFoYSYE Michael's Human Nature Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYbpNfMCEk&list=RDacYbpNfMCEk&start_radio=1

S2x12 "Moonwalk" Chapter 5, p. 179-194

Mar 10, 2026 1 hr 30 min

This week's episode of Reading Michael Jackson kicks off with a hefty intro covering topics of Michael's supposed "inexperience" with relationships, the recent passing of "She's Out of My Life" writer Tom Bahler and a clip of a recent interview he gave about Michael, a statement from Harry Styles about not "giving back" when it comes to music (and how I relate that back to Michael), and why, despite many attempted dethronings, there will never be another Michael Jackson Then, for this week's excerpt of Moonwalk, we kick off Chapter 5 which explores the creation of Thriller. Michael talks about his workstyle, his confidence, and his "manifestation" of Thriller as the biggest selling album of all time. He additionally opens up about his purchase of The Beatles catalog and his relationship with Paul McCartney and his creative choices around their collaborations. In the discussion portion of the episode, we discuss Michael's creative process with clips from the 1993 Mexico Deposition and the solo demo for "The Girl is Mine," Michael's goals when it came to buying The Beatles catalog and the many false narratives that persist around that choice. Links for clips shared today: Tom Bahler Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkP_XuIDeY The Mexico Deposition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6L9io4sYM The Girl is Mine Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94zKXFbMsCs

S2x11 - "Moonwalk" Ch. 4 Continued, p. 160-175

Mar 3, 2026 1 hr 53 min

As we finish chapter 4 of Moonwalk, this extra long episode of Reading Michael Jackson goes deep into some of the most sensitive topics Michael discusses in his autobiography. While much of the chapter explores his creative process for Off the Wall, on a more personal note Michael explores his relationships with women, his views on love, sex, and connection, how closed off he feels from every day life experiences, and why he aims to be "the first Black King." Sharing clips of Michael's tearful recording of "She's Out of My Life," Maureen McCormick's confession of being "in love" with a teenage Michael, and reading Michael's handwritten note about his plans to take over the music industry, this episode is packed full of thoughtful discussion! Michael's Handwritten Notes from 1987: https://www.mjvibe.com/michael-jacksons-hand-written-notes-from-1987/ She's Out of My Life Alternate Studio Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww1mdAyREFo&list=PL46p8WlIN3xFfCFRSe5X1Djs4sEhnZfC7&index=137 Maureen McCormick's Interview on Being In Love with Michael Jackson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktcdq3tIxoU

S2x10 - "Moonwalk" Chapter 4, 145-160

Feb 24, 2026 56 min

We are officially over halfway through Season 2 as well as our reading and discussion of Moonwalk. With 2 months left until the release of the Michael Jackson biopic, we still have plenty to cover from his autobiography. In this week's episode, we kick off Chapter 4 with Michael sharing some insights into his relationship with Quincy Jones, and their early partnership in recording Off the Wall. In addition. we learn more about the Jacksons recording of the Destiny album, and some of the tremendous pressure Michael felt from both his family and his loved ones to make decisions in their best interests. In the discussion portion of this episode, we review some of the issues Michael faced with collaborators spreading different narratives to the public, than what Michael himself remembered happening regarding their collaboration. This is an ongoing issue with Michael's legacy, and one that is easy to spot when we begin to take notice. We also discuss the emotional turmoil for Michael of firing Joseph Jackson as his manager, as well as his fear of letting his family down. Some sources discussed this episode! MJ Vibe article about Munich Shrine: https://www.mjvibe.com/michael-jackson-munich-shrine-in-the-news-again/ MjCast Destiny Album Roundtable: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4x5VWAvUvN42ULzJZ5tlJd?si=BtgFBOz6QdGtx2QMrCZfTg For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x9 "Moonwalk" Ch. 3 Continued p. 130-142

Feb 17, 2026 1 hr 3 min

In this week's episode of Reading Michael Jackson we kick off with a brief reflection on the changing discourse around Michael Jackson's innocence in light of current events. While Michael's image has been attacked for decades, social media is moving the public toward a more positive view of Michael. We can only hope that this trend is not short-lived, and the public continues to become more educated on Michael, including by continuing to learn his story in his own words. This week, we wrap up Chapter 3 of Moonwalk with Michael telling us about his experience working on The Wiz, falling in love with film, and meeting Quincy Jones. While this is a shorter section, there is still plenty to talk about! Michael's relationships with Stephanie Mills and Diana Ross, the pressures he faced as the creative force behind his family, and his drive to "transform" just beginning to manifest. For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

BONUS: A Career Retrospective in Love songs - Valentine's Day Special

Feb 13, 2026 1 hr 44 min

In this special Valentine's Day bonus episode we are reflecting on the full length of Michael's career through the many love songs he released throughout his lifetime! Join me for this career retrospective including clips of his hits, demo recordings, live performances, and deep cuts, lyrical analysis, and the non-stop intensity of what it means to be a female Michael Jackson fan. This episode is a break from our current season so sit back, relax, get comfortable, and get cozy as we indulge in all things Michael Jackson and L.O.V.E! For questions or comments email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com Links to some of the songs, performances, and interviews mentioned in today's episode! Interview with Marsha Ambrosius (Butterflies songwriter): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TiZp9FXsM Demo for "In the Closet": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLJy5FHW-tU Mama's Pearl Live in Indiana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjT7TrwNyMw Dream Away Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc958VceWCo

S2x8 "Moonwalk" Ch. 3, p. 117-130

Feb 10, 2026 57 min

In this week's episode of Reading Michael Jackson we start with a brief discussion about the value of studying The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons discography for all Michael Jackson fans, before finishing our read of Chapter 3 of Moonwalk. In this segment, Michael tells the story of the Jacksons initial transition away from Motown including the emotional struggle with losing Jermaine as a member of the group and establishing their own sound as the new rebranded "Jacksons." Michael shares what he learned from working on the Jackson's Variety TV show, collaborating with producers Gamble and Huff, before finally seeking permission from the Epic for the Jackson to produce their own album. In the discussion portion, we reflect on Michael's very intentional approach to his own celebrity and the driving philosophy that too much accessibility to your audience will lead to over-exposure. These insights are significant in how we can understand Michael's later relationship to fame. We also review Michael's early relationship to songwriting and vulnerability in music, and more! For questions or comments please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

BONUS: 10 Takeaways from the 'Michael' Trailer - Reaction & Analysis

Feb 4, 2026 54 min

With the surprise drop of the official trailer for "Michael," it's time for another bonus episode! Join me for an in-depth recap, analysis, and discussion covering everything we know so far about the narrative arc of the Michael Jackson biopic. I discuss everything from Jafaar's portrayal of MJ, to symbolism in the trailer, and all the reasons Michael Jackson deserves this specific biopic right now! Watch the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtgEE6rkxw

S2x7 "Moonwalk" Chapter 3, p. 103-117

Feb 3, 2026 58 min

Michael Jackson doesn't understand why the media write such negative things about him, but in Chapter 3 of Moonwalk he offers some of his own perspective on his volatile relationship with the press. Reflecting on his feelings about scandal and drug use, he makes a clear statement here about his future, and how he thinks he "turned out" given his upbringing as a child star. He spends the rest of the chapter telling the story of how the Jackson 5 rose to success, but ultimately left Motown in pursuit of creative freedom. In the discussion portion of this episode, we get deep discussing Michael's relationship to the media, the modern fandom's view of his changing aesthetics, the evolution of his relationship to drugs, and of course his artistic growth as. a child performer when he popularized "the robot" with his choreography for "Dancing Machine." For questions or comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x6 "Moonwalk" Ch. 2, pg. 81-100

Jan 27, 2026 1 hr 8 min

This week, we close out chapter 2 with Michael sharing details of his life in the studio and on the road with The Jackson 5, delving into details about his vocal stylings, recording songs like "ABC" and "I'll Be There," his relationship with his brothers, the fun and frustration of touring year round, and his physical insecurities as an adolescent. We discuss all of these points and then some, including Michael's challenged relationship with fame, his singular talent as a child, his personal sensitivity, and more. With clips from a live performance of "Who's Loving You" and Michael's 1983 interview with Entertainment Tonight, this episode is a bit longer than normal but packed with deep discussion! The Jackson 5, "Who's Loving You" Live at the Forum 1972: https://youtu.be/VX6qbx4vGyw?si=gWu9szuc8T1radbx Michael's 1983 Entertainment Tonight Interview: https://youtu.be/z2WclC-UubY?si=cIzbSSTBTVSXabIZ For questions or comments please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x5 Moonwalk Chapter 2, pg. 67-82

Jan 20, 2026 56 min

With the Jackson 5 officially signed to Motown, in the first half of Chapter 2 Michael recounts the early days of moving from Indiana to California, recording sessions, media training, and becoming a part of the "Corporation." Including snippets of an interview with Michael's former Victory-era publicist Howard Bloom, in the discussion we review Michael's unique connection to art, and his ability to "see the infinite" in everything. We also discuss the complications and confusion with Michael's relationship to Diana Ross and the struggle he must have experienced composing an autobiography aimed to tell the truth of his life, while still grappling with the truth he'd been brought up to believe. For questions, or comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S2x4 "Moonwalk" Chapter 1, pg. 50-64

Jan 13, 2026 52 min

This week, as the opening chapter of "Moonwalk" draws to a close, we learn about the Jackson family's eager wait for their big break. Michael shares memories of his role as a big brother and his own memories of traveling to Detroit for the Jackson 5's 1968 Motown audition. In the discussion portion of this episode, we explore the dynamics of the Jackson family and the Jackson sisters' frustrations existing in the periphery of their brothers and the early responsibility Michael took on in order to understand the weight of a Motown audition. In discussing Michael's views on the great performers of this time, as well as cultural figures like Martin Luther King Jr., we also touch upon Michael's influence on music, popular culture, and the impact of his passing on the world. For questions or comments, please reach out to readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S2x3 "Moonwalk" Chapter 1, pg. 35-50

Jan 6, 2026 57 min

In this third episode of Season 2, we dive deeper into Michael's childhood and early career, continuing our reading of "Moonwalk," pages 35-50. In this segment, Michael shares what it was like to work the night club scene in Gary and Chicago at the age of 9, recording with Steeletown Records, his early inspirations in James Brown and Jackie Wilson, and winning Amateur Night at the Apollo. In the emotional discussion portion of the episode, we review not only the highlights from this time in Michael's life, but the disturbing confessions Michael shares about his early exposure to adult sexuality in nightclubs, and the relentless work expected of him as a young child. Though Michael frames many of these experiences as necessary to his growth as a performer, for those of us with "normal" childhoods in comparison, deep empathy for Michael's unique life can help us understand his choices as he grew older, and the passion he had for protecting children. In this episode, I play a segment of the Jackson 5's first single, "Big Boy." If you are interested in listening to the full song, check out this link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFN2DQqBFE For questions and comments, please reach out to readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S2x2 "Moonwalk," Chapter 1 pg. 21-35

Jan 6, 2026 58 min

This week, we continue our reading of Chapter 1 of "Moonwalk." Spanning from pages 21-35, this week's segment covers the earliest days of the Jackson 5, including the infamous "broken guitar string" story, Joseph Jackson's discipline, and the intensity of performing at such a young age. In the discussion portion of this episode, we dissect the complications of Michael writing and releasing a memoir about complicated family dynamics, his narrative of physical discipline and abuse, the hardships of performing at such a young age, and more. As Michael Jackson fans, knowing what we know about the pain Michael experienced as a child and how that impacted him throughout his life, if he had to do it all over again, would we choose this path for him? Does Michael's incredible success and impact justify the means through which he achieved it? For comments or questions, please feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S2x1 "Moonwalk," Chapter 1, pg. 1-21"

Jan 6, 2026 1 hr 0 min

Today we are officially diving into Moonwalk! Starting with the touching forward by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, included in the original publication of Moonwalk, we begin Chapter 1, covering pages 1-21. In this section, Michael introduces himself, his family, and some of the challenges he has in telling this story. He not only identifies his earliest memories with music, but begins to explore the complicated relationship he had with his father, Joseph Jackson. Through this, he touches upon the scars he has from childhood, which remain a theme throughout Michael's life and central to how he tells his story. In the discussion portion of this episode, we explore Michael's approach to storytelling and forming a narrative, as well as the early normalization of hard work for Michael and his brothers, as well as the pain he experienced as a child. For questions or comments, please comment or email me directly at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S2x0 - Season Premiere Introducing Michael Jackson's "Moonwalk"

Dec 30, 2025 58 min

After a short hiatus, "Reading Michael Jackson" is back with Season 2! This time around, we are covering Michael Jackson's 1988 autobiography Moonwalk. Much like Season 1 which covered Michael's book of poetry and essays, "Dancing the Dream," each episode this season will contain a reading of a section of "Moonwalk," as well as a discussion of the contents. In preparation for the forthcoming biopic "Michael" (out April 24th), the goal of this season is to read and examine the way in which Michael himself chose to tell his life story, now that Michael's estate, family, and Hollywood executives will be recreating it on the big screen. Though this episode is technically serving as the premiere of Season 2, given the timing of the holiday season, as well as the content we are covering in this episode, this episode can be viewed as a "bonus." In this episode we will be covering my reasoning and decision for choosing "Moonwalk" as our focus, as well as a reading and discussion of the book's Afterword, written by one of Michael's editors, and the Forward written by Berry Gordy. By reading and discussing these materials, we are setting the foundation for understanding Michael's approach to writing this book, his process, and perhaps some of the pitfalls facing celebrity memoir in general. So while this could definitely be considered "bonus" content, if you want to be fully prepared to engage with the book starting next week, I recommend listening! From here forward, we will follow a tight schedule, with new episodes out each Tuesday leading up to the release of the biopic! So be sure to stay caught up this season! For any questions or feedback email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

Season 2 Trailer

Dec 23, 2025 2 min

We are back for season 2 of Reading Michael Jackson! This time around, we will be focusing on reading and discussing Michael's 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk." Each episode will feature a reading from the book followed by a discussion. Tune in with new episodes dropping on Tuesday December 30th!

S1x47 Season Finale - Final Discussion and Review of "Dancing the Dream"

Nov 11, 2025 1 hr 9 min

After nearly a year, we have completed our full reading of "Dancing the Dream." Now comes the real question... as Michael Jackson fans what exactly do we make of this book? What was Michael's purpose in writing it and what role does it play in his overall legacy? Join me for one final discussion covering this tremendous collection. Starting with a reading of Michael's one and only interview in which he is interviewed, specifically, about "Dancing the Dream" (Chicago Tribune 1992), we will then briefly discussion Elizabeth Amisu's understanding of this work as outlined her book "The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson," followed by my own personal review. It has been an outstanding Season 1 of Reading Michael Jackson and I am so grateful for each and every one of you who has joined me along the way! Please be sure to follow the show closely so you don't miss the Season 2 trailer... it may be dropping sooner than you think! For questions or comments please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com!

S1x46 "Look Again Baby Seal"

Nov 4, 2025 40 min

In this final essay from Dancing the Dream, Michael interrogates his own relationship to the world around him, and what he “owes” other life forms on earth. While examining a famous photograph of a baby seal, he finds himself projecting his own feelings and views onto the seal, forcing him to question his role in the good and bad that happens in the natural world. As a thoughtful close to this book, "Look Again, Baby Seal" challenges all readers to consider what role they play in both the betterment and suffering of the modern world. Please tune in for next week's season 1 season finale episode! For questions or comments, email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x45 "The One in the Mirror"

Oct 28, 2025 47 min

In this penultimate essay in Dancing the Dream, Michael writes from a place of intentional and intense self-reflection. "Mirroring" the themes from his song "Man in the Mirror," his essay "The One in the Mirror" takes the reflection a step further. Illustrating an internal battle between hope and cynicism, in this piece Michael literally argues with himself about his responsibility to the world as a person largely shielded from its suffering, while still deeply impacted by it. For me, this is one of the strongest pieces in the book that offers more than a purely idealistic view into the genuine struggle to show up for others, when it would be much easier to turn away. The interview featured in this episode is from the 1987 interview with Ebony Jet. For questions and comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S1x44 "Quantum Leap"

Oct 21, 2025 30 min

As we grow closer to the end of Dancing the Dream, the many themes and personal philosophies Michael Jackson explored throughout the book become all the more clear. With two more short essays to go, this final "poetic" piece "Quantum Leap" features Michael urging us to, once again, take action in shifting our own world view for a more spiritually fulfilling life in which we can contribute to a more "utopian" existence for all. In this discussion, I identify several similar themes, even phrases, from previous pieces in the book, as well as new messages Michael is cementing for us. For questions or comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S1x43 "Heaven is Here"

Oct 14, 2025 38 min

Throughout Dancing the Dream, Michael has explored the topics of a "universal oneness" and the ever presence of Heaven all around us. But perhaps no more directly does he do this than in this week's piece. In his poem, "Heaven is Here," Michael embodies a kind of spiritual mentor to his readers, offering wisdom and certainty for us to contend with in the face of our own doubts. Listen this week for an in-depth discussion of not only this piece, but Michael's orientation toward spirituality and mindfulness in general. For questions or comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S1x42 "Once We Were There"

Oct 7, 2025 33 min

In his poem “Once We Were There,” Michael is both separatist and invitational. In what could be seen as a thematic continuation of last week’s “Breaking Free,” in this piece Michael paints a picture of what we were “before” human existence” and what we can do now that we find ourselves here. Join for a heartfelt discussion of healing, acceptance, and recovering from the daily struggle of being human. For questions or comments, email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x41 "Breaking Free"

Sep 30, 2025 32 min

This week, we review one of the shortest pieces from Dancing the Dream. In just eight lines, his poem "Breaking Free" explores the meaninglessness of time and the constraints we live in as human beings, so often afraid of taking chances. But in addition to a reading and analysis of "Breaking Free," this week's episode also features a deep and honest conversation about Michael's right to privacy, self-protection, and the recognition that, as fans, we can (and should) only have so much access to his inner world. Through a brief discussion of his song "Morphine," I open up about my own struggles to understand Michael while recognizing I may never truly be able to. For questions and comments, please feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

S1x40 "Are You Listening?"

Sep 23, 2025 30 min

This week, Michael asks us an important question: Are we listening? But what exactly is it he wants us to hear? Following a first-person omniscient narrator, in his poem "Are You Listening?" Michael explores themes of immortality, limitlessness, and spiritual ascension. But is the answer to all life's big questions as simple as he suggests? What can we take from this piece in our understanding not only of who Michael Jackson was, but who any of us are in the grand scheme of existence? For questions or comments, please feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x39 "Magical Child Part 2"

Sep 16, 2025 36 min

As we progress toward the end of Dancing the Dream, this week's episode covers, "Magical Child," the first piece in the remarkably short "Part 2" of the collection. Calling back to the first "Magical Child" piece featured in episode 3 of Reading Michael Jackson, this piece offers perhaps an even stronger statement about what it means to be a "magical child" in a cruel, or unforgiving world, than its predeccessor. Join me this week for a discussion of Michael's self-identity and purpose-driven life, his belief in destiny, and relationship to an unrelenting media. For questions or comments, feel free to email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x38 "Will You Be There?"

Sep 9, 2025 1 hr 0 min

As one of Michael's greatest songs, and one of his most notable foray's into Gospel music, "Will You Be There" is a profound plea to God, and all of those in heaven and earth, to recognize his humanity, and to reassure him that they will be there for him in his time of greatest needs. A chillingly prophetic piece, both the song and poem beg the question of what rock bottom moment Michael may have reached that would ultimately inspire these words. Join me for this emotional discussion, as well as some personal sharing about recent Michael Jackson experiences I have had in the world. Note: The official reading and discussion of "Will You Be There," that begins around the 16 minute mark. For questions or comments, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x37 "Child of Innocence"

Sep 2, 2025 29 min

With only 10 pieces left in Dancing the Dream, this week's poem "Child of Innocence" offers an honest portrait of Michael's own loss of innocence and effort to reclaim it, perhaps offering some perspective on why these themes continue to come to light throughout the book. Join me this week for an emotional discussion about Michael's own struggles with childhood trauma and the struggle to be seen clearly in the world. For any questions or comments, please don't hesitate to reach out at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com

August 29th BONUS Birthday Episode - Celebrating Michael Jackson in 2025

Aug 29, 2025 55 min

In this special bonus episode of Reading Michael Jackson, join me for a fun, lighthearted discussion centered around celebrating all things MJ on his special day! Starting with a review of where Michael stands in 2025 in terms of global popularity and relevance, continuing with a DJ-esque exploration of some of my favorite (lesser known) MJ songs, continuing with interview and book recommendations, and a brief personal reflection on my fandom 4 years later, this episode has a little bit of everything. So tune in today if you would like to celebrate Michael Jackson's 67th birthday and revel in all the things that make him such a force in the world to this day! There are many sources and songs references in this episode. For a partial list, see below: Understanding the TikTok ‘Man in the Mirror’ Trendhttps://screenrant.com/michael-jackson-man-in-the-mirror-social-media-trend-reason/Chartmasters study conveying Michael’s global artistry: https://chartmasters.org/the-60-most-global-artists-of-all-time/ Some of Forbes’ Hugh Mcintyre’s latest coverage of Michael’s chart success: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2025/08/18/michael-jacksons-classic-reaches-a-new-peak-on-multiple-charts/?ctpv=searchpage Michael Jackson Diane Collins interview (1983) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVZCmZRuUXg&t=870s Michael Jackson Jesse Jackson (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6kg2CCschI&t=825s I can’t Help It (demo) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Qm9pd4xAk Human Nature - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElN_4vUvTPs Monkey Business - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpL0gzU2giw Cheater - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGcWrDyHPWo I’m So Blue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhZT7uEPjaE Days in Glousterschire - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQ92T1b1gA&t=5s Beautiful Girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLgP7z7rA0 If You Don’t Love Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXmeyOI5cQ8 As always, if you have any questions or comments, please email me at Reading...

S1x36 "A Child is a Song"

Aug 26, 2025 34 min

Michael's creative philosophy offers fascinating insight into who he was as a person. In this unique essay, Michael explores the ways in which music is all around us, within our body, and requires nurturing, much like a child. But how does this connect to his actual style of creating music (including vocal performance and production)? In what ways are his beliefs about music "within us" reflected in his spiritual evolution and how can we benefit from sitting with these ideas? For questions or comments, please email me at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com. As mentioned in the episode... Chris Liepe's Reaction to Blood on the Dance Floor Multitracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGoilE9ZJB0

S1x35 "I Searched for My Star"

Aug 19, 2025 33 min

Michael Jackson spoke often about his unique childhood, but in our essay this week "I Searched for My Star," he reflects on a surprisingly normal childhood memory - stargazing. Told in a short essay form, Michael invites us into the world of his child self when he once hoped to befriend the stars in the sky, before growing up and out of such innocent fantasies. But in sharing this story, he offers a tale for our consideration. In what ways does our loss of innocence contribute to our loss of caring about the world around us? How can harnessing the wonder we once felt as children help us to protect the world for future generations? Tune in for this week's in-depth review of another beautiful piece from Dancing the Dream. For questions or comments, email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x34 "Angel of Light"

Aug 12, 2025 36 min

Though Michael Jackson's religious affiliations are well-documented, his ongoing pursuit of spiritual knowledge is less so. In his short essay "Angel of Light," Michael details his study of "angels" and what he has learned about them so far, ultimately reflecting on his introspective meditation to discover his own "angel within." This piece provides so much to consider about Michael's spiritual journey, lending to a discussion about not only Michael's views of angels themselves but of women and men, the existence of the soul, and his own desire to "find himself." As mentioned in this episode, you may have an interest in exploring Howard Bloom's comments about Michael Jackson. His book Einstein, Michael Jackson, and Me: A Search for Soul in the Power Pits of Rock and Roll is available online and in stores. Bloom has also given several interviews with MJ content creators such as The MjCast and The Michael Jackson Book Club, both of which are available on YouTube. To contact me, please email readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

S1x33 "I You We"

Aug 5, 2025 28 min

Though Michael Jackson didn't discuss much about his romantic life in the public eye, his short essay "I You We" demonstrates some of his thought process about what makes a relationship work. Positioning a relationship as a three way dynamic between the individual "I" and "you" and the constructed "we," Michael explores the power of having a strong foundation in order to make a relationship work. What can we learn about Michael's relationship history and emotional intelligence when we deep dive into this piece? For questions and comments, please reach out at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com As mentioned at the start of the episode, consider checking out the audio of the 1988 Bad tour rehearsals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-4g20-boFI&t=3366s If you are interested in finding incredibly rare live footage and audio of Michael's tours, consider following the "MJ Live & Rare Videos" Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@mjlarv?si=E1kfrcLZzFbVwn2C

S1x32 "Wise Little Girl"

Jul 29, 2025 32 min

In this week's episode of Reading Michael Jackson, we read and discuss the Michael's short essay "Wise Little Girl." As a reflection on the inspiration he felt meeting with a young disabled child, Michael explores what we can learn from observing and internalizing the resilience and innocence of children. However, this piece also offers fans additional insight into how Michael's frequent humanitarian efforts impacted him on an emotional and spiritual level. As mentioned in the episode, if you are unfamiliar with Paul Dwyer's work on Michael Jackson's humanitarian legacy, please check out his book, podcast, and documentary linked below! Documentary - "Humanitarian: The Real Michael Jackson" Podcast - "Humanitarian: The Real Michael Jackson" Book - "Humanitarian: The Real Michael Jackson" For any questions or feedback on Reading Michael Jackson, please don't hesitate to reach out at readingmichaeljackson@yahoo.com.

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Latest episode: Nov 10, 2026
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