Joey Metzger

Running Behind

About the show

Confession...I am a slow but persistent trail runner who likes to take on crazy trail running adventures. This is a podcast about the weird world of running, trail running and ultramarathons. Mostly from the perspective of the back of the pack...ordinary people trying to do extra-ordinary things. Topics will focus on gear, health, nutrition, training, trails and trail races around MN and the Midwest, and also taking a look all of this through the lens of older runners. Get ready for an ultra slow, but highly optimistic ride. We will get to that finish line, even if we are...running behind.

Newest episodes

Crew Access Vol 8 | A WILD Wild Duluth For Erik

Nov 7, 2026 2 hr 8 min

It’s crew access time again! Yes, that’s right, I am joined once again by Erik and Mario for Crew Access Vol 8. Can you believe we are at volume 8 already?! It was like 2 years ago on a run with Mario and Erik that I had this crazy idea to do a podcast, and look at us now, almost 50 episodes in and volume 8 of the Crew Access ones. And boy do we have a special one today. This episode is dedicated nearly entirely to Erik’s attempt at the Wild Duluth 50K race up near Duluth MN. The first part of the episode was recorded during our pre-race meeting three days before the race. The second half is the post race, deep dive unpacking of just what the heck happened that day, including some audio clips recorded during the race. And no spoilers, but it was a long day and lots happened…including some sticky shorts. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Grab your hydration, gels, and maybe some chicken noodle soup just in case, it’s time to hit the trail. Wild Duluth 50K: https://www.wildduluthraces.com/ Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 GRACE To The Finish website: https://www.gracetothefinish.org/ Artwork by Ed Linder

Joey Free Solo | State Of The Pod, A Mammoth Recap

Oct 17, 2026 1 hr 14 min

I figured it was time to do another FREE solo pod. That’s right, Alex Honnold style. No safety ropes, no rules and no guests. We can call it an annual QBR, State of the Pod or a Year In Review (even though it’s only Oct), but I just thought it would be a good time to just talk through my year. All of the adventures and issues, the happenings with the pod, and give a bit more insight into some specific recent adventures like the Mammoth Trailfest and surprising Joe Hardin at his Hustle In The Heartland event. As always, if you do not enjoy listening to just ME, you are free to skip this one, or use that wonderful “mark as played’ feature found on most pod playing apps like Spotify and Apple. But if you want to catch up on me, my year, the pod happenings, my trainings and some of my recent adventures, then this is that pod. So go lace up those shoes for your run, and don’t forget your knee braces so your kneecaps don’t explode, but it’s time to hit the trail. VOTE FOR STORM SPORTING EVENTS: https://woobox.com/d8z4ve Mammoth Trailfest: https://www.mammothtrailfest.com/ Joe Hardin's Hustle In The Heartland race: https://runsignup.com/Race/IN/Lebanon/HustleInTheHeartlandHrRunWalk Reddit article on how long to produce a pod episode: https://www.reddit.com/r/podcasting/comments/o8c2oy/how_long_to_create_your_podcast_start_to_finish/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Wes Plate & Joe Hardin | Holy Armadillos it's Hot & Humid in TN, Tales From Vol State

Oct 2, 2026 1 hr 46 min

Did you ever have your car break down in the middle of nowhere and you had to walk down the highway to get help? And did you have to do that in the middle of a hot, summer day? Now did you also have to end up walking for 314 miles and you didn’t even have a car that broke down…you just walked on the side of a lonely, hot, humid and stormy highway. You know, a vacation WITHOUT a car, as the website says? Yeah, me neither! But my guests today did exactly that. Wes Plate and Joe Hardin each went 314 miles across the state of TN in the hottest part of summer, as part of the Last Annual Vol State 500K Road Race. Today I get to find out just what the heck they were thinking, and what kind of crazy adventures, catastrophes and life lessons they learned on that road. And be sure to stay tuned after the conversation for a new edition of Running Out Loud, where I feature a piece by none other than Joe Hardin. So, grab that Desitin for your feet, a credit card to buy some Gatorade and Twinkies and lets’ get ready to hit the road with Wes and & Joe. Wes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/midpackelite/ Joe on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running/ Wes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@wplate Wes' film on his 2026 Vol State Road Race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqQsWqLEivE Joe's "Beyond The Finish Line" podcast on the Everyday Athlete network: https://open.spotify.com/show/1wf56FRHeEdbrl8QIxtXuV Wes' Copper Kings 100 race: https://www.onwardendurance.com/ Joe's Odd Duck Running Co on IG: https://www.instagram.com/odd_duck_running_co/ Joe's RTB Awards: https://rtbawards.com/ The Last Annual Vol State Road Race site: https://vacationwithoutacar.com/races/vol-state/ Joe’s writings and poetry on Substack: https://sobrietysweatandsawdust.substack.com/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes...

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Crew Access Vol 8 | A WILD Wild Duluth For Erik

Nov 7, 2026 2 hr 8 min

Joey Free Solo | State Of The Pod, A Mammoth Recap

Oct 17, 2026 1 hr 14 min

Wes Plate & Joe Hardin | Holy Armadillos it's Hot & Humid in TN, Tales From Vol State

Oct 2, 2026 1 hr 46 min

Tim Tollefson | Vinyl Re-Issue, Director’s Cut Mammoth Edition

Sep 18, 2026 1 hr 15 min

I am doing something today that I’ve never done before. I am re-releasing an episode! This episode was originally released as episode 11, with the one and only, Mr. Tim Tollefson. Now why am I doing this…because I’m lazy? Well, I might be lazy but that’s not why. I am re-launching this conversation because #1, Tim is one of the best freaking people on the entire planet! We love hearing him on Freetrail’s Rest Day and other podcasts, and there just is no way to get too much Timmy T. #2, It’s Mammoth Trailfest time and I am headed back for 2026 BABY! This episode has the entire story of how Tim thought of it, what it takes to put this event on, what he is trying to do with it, and what it means to the community. Pay no attention to any speculation about my 2025 race, I will have some Director’s cut commentary to mitigate any nonsense. And finally #3, because Tim is just an amazing guy. He’s been very supportive of me of the podcast and of the Grace To The Finish campaign. So whether you’ve heard this one before, or whether you are about to experience its amazingness for the first time, head out for your run and let’s get ready to hit the trail again with Tim. [NEW LINKS] Tim interview with Rich Roll: https://youtu.be/m1aBpqU1DyU Jeff Pelletier film of the 2025 Mammoth 200: https://youtu.be/6KwOoFXLR_M [Previous Links] Tim on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timtollefson/ Mammoth Trailfest: https://www.mammothtrailfest.com/ Runners For Public Lands: https://runnersforpubliclands.org/ Born To Adapt website: https://www.borntoadapt.org/ Born To Adapt documentary (WATCH THIS!): https://youtu.be/QFKJyWXxcws The Mammoth 200 movie with Sally McRae: https://youtu.be/2a0efndmmsE UTMB Trail Race: https://montblanc.utmb.world/races/UTMB Western State Endurance Run: https://www.wser.org/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava....

James Bonnett : The Young Gun, Faster Than A Horse & W.S.

Sep 4, 2026 1 hr 40 min

James Bonnett....Oh yeah, many of you know exactly who he is. For those of you who do not; this is the guy who started running so early, he had finished his first marathon and ultramarathon before he was 10 years old. This is "The Kid", who was so fast that he WON his first 100 mile race when he was 12. This is the guy who later became a coach and coaches, and is friends with, folks like Nick & Jamil Coury, and Jim bleeping Walmsley. Yeah, that is that dude! The Young Gun himself! I was lucky enough to chat with him earlier this summer, and we talked about all of that. But really, we talk a lot about the 2026 Western States and how he helped get Neeraj Egbert across the finish line. James tells the story of giving out the golden ticket and how he then became his coach and friend and came up with a plan to help Neeraj realize his dream of redemption. This is one FANTASTIC conversation! Man Against Horse Race website: https://managainsthorse.com/ James' coaching website: https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/product/online-coaching-james-bonnett/ James' Ultrasignup results: https://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=James&lname=Bonnett FUN video on Trail GangstAZ with James and Nick Coury: https://youtu.be/XB8Jql-eS0g?si=QaIFQcXKCMpEXwGq GRACE To The Finish website: https://www.gracetothefinish.org/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 7 : FANS, WSER, WD50K & Other Acronyms

Aug 25, 2026 1 hr 49 min

AND WE’RE BACK!!! Yes, I know, it’s been a minute. I did not mean to go full Bolder Boys on my podcast schedule, but I spent a chunk of time in Africa and then got a nasty bug and pretty darn sick. I am just now recovering and have some semblance of a voice, so I figured it’s time to get back on the horse and start kicking out some podcast episodes. This one is another Crew Access episode with my boys Erik & Mario. We actually recorded this earlier this summer after I got back from helping Neeraj at Western States. We talk about that experience along with our days at FANS, our training and plans for the rest of the year and a certain 2027 race in CA that we have all signed up for. Hopefully the conversation isn’t too dated, but I guarantee it will be fun and lively, as it always when the three of get together. Okay, I think we remember how to do this…let’s freaking go! Mario’s 35 mile birthday run on Strava: https://strava.app.link/TFePf5SDT5b Precision WSER video featuring Neeraj: https://youtu.be/w4NKq30qLjs FANS Ultra Race: https://fansultraraces.org/ Wild Duluth 50K: https://www.wildduluthraces.com/ GRACE To The Finish website: https://www.gracetothefinish.org/ Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Chris Swenke : Listening, SCRC & Running By Design

Jul 18, 2026 1 hr 42 min

Listening is the key to so many things in life. From learning, to your job, to your relationships, to being a good human and even being a good race director. Chris Swenke knows this, and for him, everything starts there. He began running as a way to get in shape for his first love of curling, but soon discovered that running was his real passion. It didn’t take long before he had completed marathons, ultramarathons, then 100 mile races and crazy adventures like running across the state of MN. It also led him to starting the St Croix Running Company and directing his own race events. I catch up with him on all this, how his day at the 2026 FANS Ultra 24hr went, how his training for the iconic MN Superior 100 race is going and what’s the latest with the SCRC. So, grab your Hanes socks, your shoes and head out for your run. But whatever you do, don’t forget to “listen”. SCRC website: https://www.stcroixrunningcompany.com/ (Blog): https://www.stcroixrunningcompany.com/blog SCRC on IG: https://www.instagram.com/stcroixrunning Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swenke Chris Swenke personal website: https://www.chrisswenke.com/ Chris’ book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCK1B22R?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_cp_mwn_dp_KYENSNCRQYZ7XZYGRMXD&bestFormat=true Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Wynonna Fulgham : Running To The East, Shaped By The Songs

Jul 4, 2026 1 hr 49 min

In the Navajo culture, there is a sacred ceremony called a Kinaaldá. It happens when a girl transitions to women hood. As part of the ceremony they must run to the east three times a day, songs are sung, and prayers are given. Like many of their rich traditions, it is rooted in communal participation and focuses on teaching the young women about generosity, endurance, strength and community. My guest, Wynonna Fulgham, went through this ceremony and it sowed the seeds for how she would live her life as a Navajo woman, a wife, a mom, and it helped strengthen her love and connection to running. And oh the places her running has taken her. From the simple start of a 5K to eventual ultramarathons, including a starring role in The Cutoff film when finishing the Cocodona 250 last year and creating a whole new 200+ mile adventure at Cocodona this year. In this conversation we learn about her journey and how her Navajo lineage has shaped her life and her running. Wynonna on IG: https://www.instagram.com/blacksheep_running/ Native Women Run on IG: https://www.instagram.com/native_women_run/ Native Women Run on linktree (lot of great links here): https://linktr.ee/NativeWomenRunning18 Cocodona 250 races: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/cocodona/ Online article about the history of The Long Walk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Walk_of_the_Navajo Article in the Navajo Times about Kinaaldá : https://navajotimes.com/opinion/essay/kinaalda-coming-of-age-in-traditional-dine-ceremony/ Resources and information on missing and murdered indigenous women: https://www.niwrc.org/mmiwr-awareness Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Grace To The Finish : A Panel Discussion On Immigration Advocacy

Jun 20, 2026 1 hr 32 min

There is currently an estimated 12-14 million law abiding immigrants in the US, living in fear. Not knowing if they will be taken away from their families or forced into a detention center. Someone you know is afraid to travel, to work to even go on a trail race or run, not knowing if they will be safe, even though they are legal and have done nothing wrong. Because of the color of their skin and the way they speak, they have been told they are not good enough, they are criminals and they don't belong. This is dehumanizing...and this must stop. This is a special panel discussion for the Grace To The Finish campaign. Grace To The Finish was started by Joey Metzger and Neeraj Egbert as an awareness campaign to raise support for immigration advocacy, inclusion and anti-discrimination, especially among the running and trail running communities. We are here to allow voices to be heard and steer supporters to relevant organization, causes and efforts that can help make a difference. Besides Joey and Neeraj, the panel includes Carolina Rubio-MacWright, founder of Touching Land, Cristina Regalado, co-founder of Wasatch Trail Collective and former board member of the Women of the Wasatch, Francisco Segovia, Executive Director of COPAL MN and Jason Bahamundi, owner and founder of The Everyday Athlete Podcast Network and RunTriBike. It's time to speak up, it's time to listen, and it's time to take action. Grace To The Finish website: https://www.gracetothefinish.org/ Carolina on IG: https://www.instagram.com/stories/carustol/ Touching Land : https://www.touchingland.org/ Cristina on IG: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runchachi/ Wasatch Trail Collective: https://linktr.ee/wasatchtrailscollective Women of the Wasatch: https://www.womenofthewasatch.com/ Francisco Segovia (COPAL): https://copalmn.org/leadership-and-staff/francisco-segovia/ COPAL on IG: https://www.instagram.com/mncopal/ Jason Bahamundi on IG: https://www.instagram.com/cooktraineatrace/ Run.Tri.Bike : ht...

Lindsay Teague : Running Her Life & Burning The Ships

Jun 15, 2026 1 hr 34 min

2.7 million likes...just let that sink in for a minute. I mean, I am happy with a handful of views, a couple of likes, but my guest today takes that to a whole new level. Lindsay Teague, or Linz or Run.This.Life as she's known on social media has a huge following and with good reason. The best part though, is that she doesn't make all those posts for the attention. She does it because she genuinely LOVES running, she loves sharing about it, and she believes that fitness should come from a place of celebration. It is exactly that positive attitude and dedication that has led her to complete multiple 100 mile races. In this conversation we get to know Linz...how she got started running, and what inspires and drives her to push for more. Hey if this chat were a run, it would be one of those great runs in the forest finding new trails and discovering amazing sights, all while getting in a good workout. So, if you are heading out for that great run, grab your phone to take a shot or two for IG, and just one pole, cuz it's time to hit the trail. Linz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@run.this.life Linz on IG: https://www.instagram.com/run.this.life One of my fav posts: https://www.instagram.com/p/DY0WpzlPw1y/ Linz on FB: https://www.facebook.com/people/RunThisLife/61571763113788/ Linz on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/23404266 Revolution Running: https://revolutionrunning.net/ Coach Dan England: https://www.adventuresinengland.com/ Ultra Running Magazine: https://ultrarunning.com/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Suzy Lurie: FKTs, OMGs And DFL At Cocodona 250

Jun 5, 2026 1 hr 44 min

Picture the scene...It's the finish line of the 2026 Cocodona 250 mile race. Everyone is celebrating and going crazy. Overall race winner, Rachel Entrekin is there and she is embracing my guest, Suzy Lurie...Now, did Suzy come in 2nd or 3rd...well, not exactly. Suzy is used to setting FKTs (Fastest Known Times) at various places in her home state of MN. Isn't it ironic then, that her claim to fame happens when she finishes the longest race of her career and comes in last. But coming in last cannot stop the insatiable energy, enthusiasm and excitedness that is UltraSuzy. In this episode we chat about how she got her start, what led to her deciding to toe the line at the 2026 Cocodona 250, and the incredible stories and dramas that unfolded along the way. And we also discuss her complete infatuation with the Elm Creek Backyard Ultra and Afton 50K races. So, strap on those Zegama 2s, grab your anchor airpods and head out for your run, cuz it's time to hit the trail Suzy's FKTs: https://fastestknowntime.com/athlete/suzy-lurie Suzy on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/102412799 Cocodona 250 website: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/cocodona/ Heated Rivalry TV show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heated_Rivalry Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Heather Vinge Hanson : Flourishing Through The Fire

May 29, 2026 2 hr 2 min

Heather Vinge Hanson is a MN trail runner, and in 2025 Heather ran several marathon or longer distances, including her first 50K race. She does all that, while dealing with a multitude of chronic conditions and syndromes. Everything from gastro-intestinal disorders, to Ehlers Danlos to Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia , and that is after battling an eating disorder for many years. This is someone who has been in the fire, and she is not just surviving, but flourishing through it. It no surprise that TerraLoco, the great footwear and sporting store in Rochester, MN, began sponsoring her as an athlete last year. In this conversation, we go through her history of discovering and dealing with her many chronic conditions, her love of trail running and her current achievements and futuregoals. And stayed tuned after the episode for another edition of Running Out Loud, where I feature another Joe Hardin piece called The Miles Provide. So, strap in and lace up for a nice long run today, and don’t forget your ‘power object’, be it guitar or vest, but let’s get going, it’s time to hit the trail. Heather on IG: https://www.instagram.com/chronic.runner.mn/ Heather on Threads: https://www.threads.com/@chronic.runner.mn Info on Ehlers Danlos Hypermobile syndrome: https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/heds/ TerraLoco (Heather's sponsor): https://runterraloco.com/ Info on "Fire - Every Step Counts" the film: https://www.thepicklejuiceproject.com/ Heather's coach (Fly Free Run) website: https://flyfreerunandwellness.issacertifiedtrainer.com/ Joe Hardin's "The Miles Provide" on Substack: https://substack.com/inbox/post/195253072 Joe Hardin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 6 : Storm The Park Edition

May 11, 2026 1 hr 21 min

Today is another Crew Access episode with Mario and Erik, and this is a special one. This is Crew access, Storm The Park edition. The three of us headed down to White Water state park and did the 15K at Storm Sporting Events Storm The Park trail race. We weren’t there to worry about pace or effort, just to hang out with friends, explore the trails at a beautiful place and enjoy the day and great event put on by Mandy and Bill Hansel. We recorded this the next day and talk through our favorite parts of the event, our challenges and how I nearly broke my ankle and fell off the cliff just by stepping aside for some two-way traffic. And I even include a mini interview I recorded that day with the race director Mandy Hansel. So strap up those Mount To coast H1's, grab your gloves if it colder than 40, and don’t forget your bottle or flask (Erik), but it’s time to hit the trail. Storm The Park Trail Race: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/event-details/storm-the-park Storm Sporting Events: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/ Joey's Storm The Park 30K Strava file from 2023: https://www.strava.com/activities/8955070415 Joey's Storm The Park 15K Strava file from 2026: https://www.strava.com/activities/18174559294 Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Erin Shaw : Planning, Persevering & The Capes of Wrath

Apr 19, 2026 2 hr 18 min

Erin Shaw, by her own admission, is not fast. She has come in last more than once, she has been cutoff more than once, she has just made the cutoff with 8 minutes to spare, more than once, but Erin gets it done and she savors the moments along the way. Whether it’s taking on multiple-day trail races in rugged backcountry areas like the Scottish highlands, or battling cancer and coming out the other side with a new perspective and priority on life, my guest today has learned that “the only way IS through” and that nearly anything can be accomplished with planning, and persevering. In this conversation, we learn how she discovered trail running and adventures like Cape Wrath, how she navigated a breast cancer diagnosis, and how she has learned that she is capable of more than she knows and that she can help others to realize that as well. And stayed tuned after the conversation for another installment of Running Out Loud, where I share a piece by Nikita Gill called “The Ocean In You”. Get shoes on, grab your sun sleeves and head out for a nice long training run, cuz it’s time to hit the trail. Trail Running Film Archive: https://trailrunningnordwand.blogspot.com/p/the-trail-running-film-archive.html Cape Wrath Ultra Races: https://www.capewrathultra.com/ Cape Wrath film featuring Erin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7UHRRz3kE Erin's coaching website: https://erinshaw.blog/ 3 Days of Syllamo: https://www.syllamoevents.com/3days Erin on Ultrasignup: https://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Erin&lname=Shaw# Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Kevin Swift : Swifty Runs The 50, YouTube & Backyard Ultra 101

Apr 5, 2026 1 hr 54 min

Anyone remember the old days when you had to go to the library, to find the information you needed? These days, a simple Google search or a look on YouTube and you can usually find it. I began posting videos on YouTube as a reference for folks to see trail races, courses, areas and experiences, and to show my family and friends what I was up to. Well, so did my guest today, Kevin Swift. Kevin, aka SWIFTY, did not come to running until a little bit later in life, but once he did, he was hooked. The races became longer and the adventures became more involved. Eventually he found himself on a quest to run races in all 50 states, and with a YouTube channel to boot. We go through all of that, discuss his drumming in bands and rock & roll dreams, and top it off with a backyard ultra 101 session, where we are joined by Mario and Erik to answer all of his questions. So, grab those brooks, some sunscreen, and your camera (or drum sticks), cuz it’s time to hit the trail. Kevin's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@kevins1775 Mainly Marathon's website: https://mainlymarathons.com/ Kevin's band Six Figure Sunrise FB page: https://www.facebook.com/sixfiguresunrise/ Kevin's music with Rox on Apple: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/rox/1824567008 Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Dylan Harris & Drew B Darby: “The Cutoff” A Film For The Rest Of Us

Mar 21, 2026 1 hr 58 min

I am not quite sure why they agreed to be on my humble little podcast, but I'll take it. Today, I am honored to be joined by Dylan Harris and Drew B Darby. Dylan is a well-known filmmaker, and the creator/director of the feature film, The Chase, that covered the 2024 men's race at the Cocodona 250. Drew, also has quite the resume, with clients that include household names like Sally McRae and Heather Jackson. In 2024, Dylan recruited Drew to collaborate and help him on The Chase, and in 2025, they teamed up again at Cocodona to create another masterpiece. The film is called “The Cutoff”, and for all of us ‘normal’ folks, who constantly find ourselves at the wrong end of the timing clock, this is the film for us. The film tells the stories that don’t usually get told and does it with a level of production that is rarely seen. What you end up with is an amazing piece of cinema, and might just be the most unique take in this genre since “Unbreakable”. Or maybe I’m just super biased…but I promise you, the film is fantastic, and so is this conversation. So, get your shoes on for your long run, and heck, bring your Sachtler tripod with too, if you need it, but it’s time to hit the trail. The Cutoff Film Tour information: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/the-cutoff/ Dylan Harris on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritOfDylan Somo Collective website: https://www.somocollective.co/ Drew B Darby on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drewbdarby Drew B Darby film website: https://www.drewbdarby.com/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Jamison Swift : Second Seasons & Sagas of Ice and Fire

Mar 14, 2026 2 hr 0 min

Jamison Swift, along with his wife, Lisa, is a race director in MN for the St Croix 40 Winter Ultra (BTW, bring your own sled), and the Fire Tower Trail Races. Besides that, he is an avid photography, active volunteer at races, a bike, run and sled adventurer, a musician, and quite frankly, a bit nerdy like yours truly. We cover all of that, along with Jamison and Lisa's amazing efforts to make their races accessible to everyone, especially women, with their 50 Women Run 50K program. And stay tuned after the conversation for another Running Out Loud segment where I feature another Joe Hardin piece called "Standing Through Seasons". We've got a lot of ground (or snow) to cover in this one, so go grab your shoes (and sled or tire if you need it), it's time to hit the trail. St Croix 40 Winter Ultra: https://stcroixwinterultra.com/ Fire Tower Trail Races: https://firetowertrailraces.com/ Jamison's photography: https://swiftphotography.smugmug.com/ Jamison's blog Second Runnings: https://secondrunnings.me/ Jamison on Instgram: https://www.instagram.com/jamisonswift/ Link to "Fire" the film featuring the 50 Women Run 50K program: https://mspfilm.org/show/fire-50-women-run-50k/ Joe Hardin's "Standing Through Seasons" on Substack: https://sobrietysweatandsawdust.substack.com/p/standing-through-seasons Joe Hardin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Tiffany Piotrowicz : Selling Shoes & Giving Hope

Feb 28, 2026 1 hr 39 min

Season Two is here!! Yes, my loyal listeners, I am back, and so are my wonderful guests. My first guest is Tiffany Piotrowicz. At a fairly young age, she pivoted in her career and bought her own business. She has used her creative and marketing skills, and grown and guided that business into a great success, and now is using that as a tool and platform for bringing hope and help to her community. And stayed tuned after the conversation for a new segment I am deputing in season two called, "Running Out Loud", where I share works and words from talented folks that have been inspiring me lately. So let's get ready to meet Tiffany, and let's get ready for Season Two of the Running Behind pod. TerraLoco (Tiffany's store): https://runterraloco.com/ TerraLoco on IG: https://www.instagram.com/terralocomn/ Tiffany on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.creative/ TerraLoco on YouTube (the amazing "Hello, A Quarantine Parody" video): https://youtu.be/UsfIYXOS56Y?si=47f3YyFCEAj7ER7A Joe Hardin on IG: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 5 | Hoka The Chiweenie And Other Dog Talk

Jan 31, 2026 1 hr 40 min

The Boys Are Back! In this post holiday, episode, the boys and I discuss everything from dogs to race plans to bathroom re-remodels. Get to know about our plans for races and training in 2026 (likely to change by the next episode LOL), and get to hear to story of precious Hoka, aka TT, Erik's beloved little furry friend who he recently had to say goodbye to. And I would be remiss not to acknowledge what is going on in my precious city of Minneapolis. I can only say thank you to everyone who has reached out to me...to us. These are my neighbors, my friends and my community that is so affected. We are strong, we will stand together, we will get there. But now, it's time for a little distraction and banter. Who knows, it might even have you digging for that old pair of Under Armour running shoes. MN/Mpls Organizations helping in the current crisis: https://copalmn.org/ https://www.theadvocatesforhumanrights.org/Home Storm The Park Race: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/event-details/storm-the-park FANS Ultra Race: https://fansultraraces.org/ Wild Duluth 50K: https://www.wildduluthraces.com Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Wes Cornett | Misfits, Rebels, Fever Dreams and Tacos

Jan 18, 2026 1 hr 53 min

Wes Cornett was born in Hawkins, Indiana...well, maybe not Hawkins, but basically though. While still just a kid, a bad breakup and a love of cheap tacos lead him to the military. After a 20 year career that included deployments in Bosnia and Afghanistan, his military career left a wake of hard realities...the loss of his best friend, struggles with PTSD, anxiety, depression, sobriety and his mental health. Eventually though, he found his footing and a love for trail running and hiking. Even though some struggles continue, Wes is finding success, including a recent raffle ticket win to run the Western States Endurance Run (cuz hey, you can't spell Western States without "Wes"), and a tremendous accomplishment of publishing his first novel. Needless to say, this episode covers a lot of ground...we're talking like Tor Des Geants ground. So, get those comfy shoes, tape your toes and grab your poles, because we've got a lot to learn about Wes. Wes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wes_author_ultrarunner/ Wes' book Tumblin Dice on Amazon: https://a.co/d/9FvE3VL Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Dr Tonya K Olson | Horses, Grandmas, Bunkers Bar And The Michigan Bluff Social Club

Dec 26, 2025 2 hr 17 min

IN A TIME BEFORE FIREBALL...around mile 20, somewhere along highway 61 just north of Duluth, MN, Dr. Tonya hit a low in her first marathon, when suddenly four hands from the Reef Bar reach out with some much needed Jack Daniels. It was one of several inspirational moments that helped her complete her first of ten straight Grandma's marathons. Or there was the time when she moves to a new town and becomes a tour guide on her first day of living there! Or her lifelong love of horses and how they have shaped her entire life both personal and professional. Okay, yeah...we do talk a LITTLE footcare. I mean, after all, she is one of the premiere footcare experts in the world of endurance athletics, and she does lead footcare for THE Western States Endurance Run, but really, this is all about getting underneath the kinesiology tape and getting to know the real Dr. Tonya. Get ready for some good old Minnesota story telling... Dr Tonya's website: https://www.drtonyafootcare.com/ Dr Tonya's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TonyaKOlson Dr Tonya on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tonyakolsondpt/ Dr Tonya on FB: https://www.facebook.com/tonyakolson/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Neeraj Egbert | Here For The Adventure, Here For The Immigrants

Dec 6, 2025 2 hr 0 min

This is Neeraj's story... He was born in India and grew up with the typical norms and traditions of his community, spending a few of his key formative years nestled in the foothills of the Himalayas, in the idyllic village of Nainital. In 1994, he had the opportunity to visit the US through an exchange program, and it was quite the culture shock. He ultimately stayed though. Settling in Louisville, eventually getting married and landing in a career as a Physical Therapist. And while not athletic as a youth or young adult, he found his way to running and eventually to trail running. In late 2024, Neeraj won the lottery...the 2025 Western States Endurance Run lottery that is. In a race where the odds of getting selected are somewhere between the Powerball and Kentucky Derby Trifecta, Neeraj got in. He trained and ran the best race he could that day, but ultimately the timing clock on the Auburn track went blank about two minutes before Neeraj was able to cross the finish line - no belt buckle, no official finish time and no certainty that he would ever get the chance to run Western States again...and then something magical happened. Sometimes fate has a way of knowing just who to shine down on. This is his moment and this is his story. iRunFar Article: https://www.irunfar.com/neeraj-egbert-2025-western-states-100-golden-hour-ticket-winner-profile Town of Nainital: https://uttarakhandtourism.gov.in/destination/nainital Western States: https://www.wser.org/ Hurt 100 Trail Race: https://hurt100.com/ Neeraj on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/egbertne47/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Alex Baker | Never Moving On, Always Moving Forward

Nov 22, 2025 1 hr 34 min

Alex met his wife Amanda when they were both in college. They got married, and after years of trying, they finally had a child. Tragically, while their child was still a toddler, Amanda was diagnosed with cancer and lost her battle to that relentless disease 16 months later. In this powerful and emotional conversation, Alex walks us down the path of that pain and loss, but also through the transformational journey of change and hope that happens afterwards. With the rallying cry of "Never moving on, but Always moving forward", Alex takes back control of his health, his life, and takes the fight to cancer. Ketchup To Cancer website: https://www.ketchuptocancer.com/ Alex on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/ketchuptocancer/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Julie Anding | Grit, Grace & Choosing To Live On Purpose

Nov 8, 2025 1 hr 53 min

Julie Anding, like me, is a cutoff chaser. I met Julie at Mammoth Trailfest where we both got cutoff at the summit of Mammoth mountain. It turns out that was not her first (or even second) time doing that. We get the full details on Julie’s history of running, trail running and chasing cutoffs. We also learn how Julie is using her yoga business and positive mindset to make a difference and help heal those among us who are vulnerable and hurting. Not only that, Julie is doing all of this while dealing with a rare neurological disorder that has impacted her life in a significant way. This episode has it all and is one of my all time favorite conversations. The mindset revolution is here folks, and her name is Julie Anding! Julie's yoga business: https://www.livinggritandgrace.com/ Prison Yoga Project: https://www.prisonyoga.org/ Warriors At Ease: https://www.warriorsatease.org/ Yoga of 12-Step Recovery: https://www.y12sr.com/ MdDS Foundation: https://mddsfoundation.org/ Julie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grit_and_grace_yoga/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 4 | Trail Talk With Mario & Erik

Oct 25, 2025 1 hr 50 min

The boys are back! And this time we are in the backyard. That’s right, we are doing this episode “Boulder Boys” style, recording it live in person in my backyard. And yeah, the audio quality is not perfect, but hey, there’s nothing better than hanging together with some burgers and beer and chatting about our recent trail running adventures. We recap Mario’s Continental Divide 50K with his brother Luke, the full details on my Mammoth 50K fail, and Erik’s day at the Twin City 10 mile, where rumor is, he tried to get a glimpse of Courtney Dauwalter running her 2:45 marathon. It’s always fun chatting with the guys so grab your new Mount To Coast H1’s and a vest and let’s get ready for a little Crew Access talk. Continental Divide Trail Run: https://runningseries.com/races/cdtr/ Twin Cities 10 Mile Race: https://www.tcmevents.org/alleventsandraces/medtronictwincitiesmarathonweekend/tc10mile Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

MTF | Mammoth: The Greatest Show On Trail

Oct 18, 2025 1 hr 26 min

This is the MAMMOTH episode you've waited so long for!! Finally, you get to hear all about my adventures at the 2025 version of Mammoth Trailfest - what will soon be called The Greatest Show On Trail! From hobnobbing with trail running royalty to the new amazing friends and fans I made along the way. I guarantee that listening will likely get you itching to sign up for 2026. Not only do you get to hear about the epic journey just to get there, but you also get to hear about amazing stories, like Margie, an 81 year old who casually took on the Dragon's Back Ascent...and conquered it. Which actually, is more than I can say about the host...but that's another story...and that's in here too. Go grab your Craft shoes, Gu gels and Leki poles, cuz it's Mammoth time! Mammoth Trailfest website: https://www.mammothtrailfest.com/ Cocker Spaniel Adoption Center website (where we got Howie from): https://www.cockeradoptions.org/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Amber Thielbar | Casually Winning & Taking on The Superior 100

Sep 13, 2025 1 hr 9 min

Amber Thielbar has been 'casually winning' ever since she started doing trail races some seven short years ago. In fact, her Ultrasignup results read like Tom Brady's winning percentage. Now, not all races go as planned or are as successful as others. We sit down and discuss how all this got started, what is helping her to be so successful, and we dissect her recent first attempt at the 100 mile distance at the iconic MN Superior 100 trail race. Yeah, I know, I've ironically been running a little behind on these podcasts...but we are back with a bang. Amber on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/32945861 Amber on Ultrasignup: https://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Amber&lname=Thielbar Mines of Spain Trail Races: https://minesofspaintrailraces.com/ Superior 100 Trail Race: https://www.superiorfalltrailrace.com/100-mile-info/ Surf The Murph Trail Race: https://www.surfthemurph.org/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Dee Lukas | Once In A Lifetime Dogs, Knees & Miles In Their Shoes

Aug 20, 2025 1 hr 35 min

Hey, it's Dee Lukas day! Now, Dee may not be a back-of-the-packer, or a TRAIL runner (yet), but she is a dear friend of mine and my wife's, with a ton of great stories to tell. We cover everything from her running origins, to her multiple (try like 8) knee surgeries, to her involvement with a great Twin Cities organization called Mile In My Shoes. And dogs...we talk a ton of dogs. So get those Hoka Mach 6's laced up and get some ice compression sleeves ready when you get back, but it's time to hit the trail. Dee on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/24821671 Mile In My Shoes: https://www.mileinmyshoes.mn/ 26.2 To Life film info: https://www.sanquentinmarathon.com/ Mill City Running: https://www.millcityrunning.com/ Mill City Race Team Info: https://www.millcityrunning.com/raceteam Tracksmith 5000: https://www.tracksmith.com/pages/twilight-5000 Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Dave Shannon | By The Numbers, Stories of a Marathon Maniac

Aug 2, 2025 2 hr 6 min

Dave Shannon is a numbers guy. In 1997, twelve years before anyone even thought up Strava, he began documenting his runs…EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Since then, he has logged over 46,000 miles, 332 races, 172 marathons, including one in every state and four of the six world majors, 49 ultramarathons...and near and dear to my heart, a handful of DFL podium finishes. He is also a race director for FANS Ultra Races. Most importantly, Dave is an epic storyteller. A raconteur of the highest level. Put your comfy long run shoes on and get ready for some amazing stories, cuz Dave is in the house. Dave on Strava : https://www.strava.com/athletes/36156738 Dave on Ultrasignup: https://ultrasignup.com/m_results_participant.aspx?fname=David&lname=Shannon FANS Ultra Races website: https://fansultraraces.org/ Dave's NYC Marathon movie "Rudy The Rat": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83cfrVBUziQ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 3 | Trail Talk With Erik & Mario

Jul 19, 2025 1 hr 49 min

It' s not the heat, it's the humidity!! Welcome back to the back of the pack world of Running Behind. In this volume 3 of Crew Access, I am once again joined by Mario and Erik. We have plenty of topics to discuss, including the hot, humid and muddy day that Erik and I had at the 2025 Afton trail races. Mario's attempt at a 100 mile week, including a 34 mile day to honor his 34 trips around the sun. We also breakdown our thoughts on the Western State Endurance Run and some other happenings in the world of trail running. Erik even spills the details on how he wants to get his first tattoo...hint, it involves a difficult trail race in MT. Lots to cover in this one, so lace up those North Face Vectiv Enduris 4's tight... Afton 25K/50K Trail Races: https://www.aftontrailrun.com/ Continental Divide Trail Run: https://runningseries.com/races/cdtr/ The Rut 50K: https://runtherut.com/50k-race-details/ Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Tim Tollefson | The Curious Crafter, Saying Yes & Going Long

Jul 5, 2025 1 hr 15 min

He may say different, but my guest is not your "average" runner or person. My guest is not a back of the packer. In fact, my guest today runs a 2:18 marathon (hey, that's like 2:08 in super shoes), has created one of the premiere North American trail race events, placed 3rd at UTMB...TWICE, made the Olympic qualifying multiple times and has come in the top 5 at the Wester States Endurance Run! So what the hell is he doing on a back of the pack, ordinary runner podcast?...Well, this person is also a champion for causes that affect us ALL, and he is constantly striving to see the sport of trail running opened up to runners of all abilities and speeds, especially those in under represented communities. Not only that, he is super fun and an incredibly intelligent and cool dude. And did I mention has the best hair in the business? I am honored to be joined by the curious crafter himself...Tim Tollefson. Tim on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timtollefson/ Mammoth Trailfest: https://www.mammothtrailfest.com/ Runners For Public Lands: https://runnersforpubliclands.org/ Born To Adapt website: https://www.borntoadapt.org/ Born To Adapt documentary (WATCH THIS!): https://youtu.be/QFKJyWXxcws The Mammoth 200 movie with Sally McRae: https://youtu.be/2a0efndmmsE UTMB Trail Race: https://montblanc.utmb.world/races/UTMB Western State Endurance Run: https://www.wser.org/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Mandy & Bill Hansel | Runners On The Storm, Racing To Make A Difference

Jun 21, 2025 1 hr 54 min

Mandy and Bill Hansel have created what has quickly become one of the premier trail race and sporting event organizations in Minnesota and the Midwest. Not only does their Storm Sporting Events provide first class and accessible but challenging events, but the mission behind it all is what really matters. From day one, they knew that it would be important that Storm Sporting Events be a vehicle to help provide resources and bring awareness to youth mental health issues. In 2025, they were able to award their first scholarship to someone who is studying to become a resource in that field. We talk about how this whole thing got started, how its grown and where it’s headed. We also chat about some of the fun and crazy things they like to do in their spare time (not that they have any). Get ready for an absolutely delightful conversation. Mandy & Bill's Event Organization: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/ Direct link to donate to their cause: https://app.autobooks.co/pay/storm-sporting-events Bill's crazy Arrowhead 135 race: https://arrowheadultra.com/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Joe Hardin | Beyond The Shell: The Trail Tortoise's Journey To Sobriety, Purpose and Gratitude

Jun 10, 2025 1 hr 19 min

Joe Hardin (Trail Tortoise Running) is; a father, a husband, a trail runner, an ultra marathoner, a writer , a podcast host, a poet and soon to be race director, but maybe most importantly…Joe is sober. On December 1, 2019, Joe took his last drink. I am honored to sit down with him as he shares the details on his journey to sobriety and how along the way he found and fell in love with trail running and ultra marathons (oh, and also writing, podcasting and woodworking to name a few). This promises to be a powerful and inspiring (and fun) episode. Joe (Trail Tortoise Running) on IG: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running Joe’s podcasts (Beyond The Finish Line & What’s In Your Earbuds) and his writings at Run Tri Bike: https://runtrimag.com/ Joe’s woodworking business: https://rtbawards.com/ My favorite poem by Joe on IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/DKcqDpDAgJY Mohican 100 Trail Race: https://www.ombc.net/copy-of-mohican-trail-run Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Tony Gillham | The Long Miserable Fun, Conquering The Cocodona 250

May 26, 2025 2 hr 6 min

"Comfort is a disease..." 5 years ago, Tony Gillham, my guest today, had a dream. It took 2 trainers, endless training miles, countless hours, the support of family and friends and ultimately 5 arduous days and nights crossing over 250 miles in the AZ desert, but in May 2025, Tony made his dream a reality. To help tell the story, we are also joined by one of his crew and pacers (and a pretty awesome podcast host himself), Mr. Ben Mead. This is a tale not to be missed! I do apologize for the audio quality at times, but for goodness sake, Tony was calling in from an oil rig, somewhere off the coast of Alaska. Get ready for an absolutely epic episode, as we hear the story of how Tony arrived at and ultimately conquered one of the most premiere long trail races in the world...the Cocodona 250. Tony's podcast episode on Ben Mead's Chasing Cutoffs: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6qOM4TL4zNNydreJy5bqLg Ben Mead's 2024 Cocodona 250 podcast episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6gV6At4mg3SuivT3idkucK or https://open.spotify.com/episode/5MvIk9e2YcIUP5zYkYF6ya The Cocodona 250 by Aravaipa Running: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/cocodona2/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 2 | Trail Talk With Erik & Mario

May 10, 2025 2 hr 3 min

The boys are back in town, the boys are back. That’s right, Erik and Mario are back. Thanks for meeting up with us again at the back of the pack in the world of Running Behind. In this episode Mario, Erik and I talk about some of our races and experiences; including the time Mario took a wrong turn after running in a loop in the rain for 13 hours, the time Erik forgot his water bottles back in MN (but once again hob-knobbed with running royalty at his event, and the time I apparently DID NOT run, even half of the Zumbro 34 mile race. We talk a lot of other stuff too. In fact, we talk so much this time, that if you are lacing up those Topo’s for your long run, you better pack some bacon, quesadillas, cookies and a whole freaking jar of pickles, cuz we have a ways to go. Get laced up, get ready and let’s get this show...on the trail. Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Buffalo Run 50K Race: https://www.buffalorunadventures.com/buffalo-run/ Elm Creek Backyard Ultra Race: https://bigsbackyardultra.com/races/elm-creek-backyard-ultra/ Ashley Paulson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ashkickn/ The Great World Race (7 Marathons, 7 Continents, 7 Days): https://thegreatworldrace.com/ Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead (Go listen! It's awesome!): https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Jason Reeve | Zero To Zumbro, The Undisputed Big Eddy

Apr 26, 2025 1 hr 38 min

Welcome again to the Running Behind start line. Nothing less than epicness will do for episode number 6. I am joined by fellow MN trail runner, Jason Reeve. In less than 36 months, Jason went from running 0 miles to completing a 100 mile trail race, at the notoriously challenging Zumbro Endurance Trail Run. We get to hear his story and history, how in his early forties he decided to get himself to a place where he could run 100+ miles, and maybe most importantly, how he got the nickname "The Undisputed Big Eddy". Get ready and get some anti-chafing cream on, because we have a long ways to go. Zumbro Endurance Run 100 Mile Info: https://www.zumbroendurancerun.com/100-mile-info/ The Storm Trail Race Series: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/event-cms/ iFIT: https://www.ifit.com/ Jason on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/105288161 Jason on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jason.reeve.98# Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Just Joey | Mark As Played, Orange = Optimism

Apr 12, 2025 49 min

Thanks again for slowing down to hang out with me at the back of the pack. For episode 5, it’s just me…just Joey. I thought a solo effort would be in order. After all, I need to catch you up on what’s coming up on the pod, how my training is (ISN’T) going, and I want to talk to you about a topic near and dear to me…optimism. So, get those shoes on and headphones in, it’s time for a little steady state with Running Behind. Zumbro Endurance Run 34 Mile Info: https://www.zumbroendurancerun.com/34-mile-info/ The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Artist%27s_Way Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Dr Adrienne | Chiro, QNT & Winning Bikes At Bar Trivia

Mar 29, 2025 1 hr 1 min

In episode 4, we chart a new path, we head down trails unknown. We leave our familiar roads and routes behind as my guest leads us towards things like Quantum Nutrition Testing, 6 centimeter brain lesions, Eastern vs Western, chiropractic adjustments, winning bikes at bar trivia (that you then use to race a triathlon), and most importantly, how to get 12 million views on your Instagram post. I am joined by special guest, and my chiropractor, Dr. Adrienne Castrovinci. We talk all things intriguing ...oh yeah, and we even talk a little running too. Dr Adrienne’s business website: https://www.healthylivingchiropractic.com/ Dr Adrienne’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healthyliving_chiro Dr Adrienne’s Instagram post with nearly 12 MILLION views: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CgCQPACjBpL Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Music: “Nicer” by Houses On The Hill, Rue Rosa (Epidemic Sound subscription) Artwork by Ed Linder

Eric Walker | "The Streak", Running For Fun & Digestible Numbers

Mar 13, 2025 1 hr 15 min

Welcome back, to the back of the pack world of Running Behind. It’s episode 3, and this time, we are picking up the pace. l am joined by good friend and “faster than me” fellow runner, Eric Walker. We spend the time catching up, hearing about how Eric got started running, and why he loves it so damn much. We also learn about Eric's several adventures with the Twin Cities Marathon. And finally, we get the details on an extra-ordinary quest that Eric achieved. Something that l simply call "The Streak" So, buckle up and get ready for a fun ride. And if you are heading out for your long run, well you might want to kick it up to Tempo or Threshold, because it's no easy task to keep up with Eric. especially if you're running behind. Eric’s Strava profile: https://strava.app.link/gNbuAGstmRb Eric’s “first” podcast stint as a guest: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/off-the-couch/id1453472927?i=1000465957338 Or https://open.spotify.com/episode/18PGTAs37kcgHlcS4vU5j8?si=e4yJyXjpRH2hlm01VZa27A Trout Brook 10 Mile Trail Race: https://www.stcroixrunningcompany.com/trout-brook Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Crew Access Vol 1. | Trail Talk With Erik & Mario

Mar 1, 2025 1 hr 29 min

If that first episode left you wanting more, than want no more, because I ‘m back. And this time it's 'net downhill', because I brought some friends! I welcome Mario & Erik to the pod, in what will be a recurring series that I am calling “Crew Access | Trail Talk With Erik & Mario. In this episode, you will get to learn all about Erik and Mario, how they got started running, how they balance running workouts with young kids, what their plans and ambitions are, and how we are all a bit nerdy but could probably put together a helluva jazz band. We also recount several race experiences, including the 2024 Wild Duluth 50K that they ran together, and Erik’s wild weekend in the desert at the 2025 Black Canyon races. Where, I might add, he made a new friend who goes by the name of Jim Walmsley. This one runs a little long, but well worth the ride. So buckle up, grab your trumpet or sax and let’s get started. There’s no time to lose when you are Running Behind. Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/ Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/ Wild Duluth Trail Races: https://www.wildduluthraces.com/ Black Canyon 50K Elevation Profile: https://aravaiparunning.com/network/blackcanyon/the-trail/ Jim Walmsley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Walmsley Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs Artwork by Ed Linder

Joey Metzger | What The Bleep Is This & Just Who Do I Think I Am?

Feb 15, 2025 37 min

Well here it is…one of the most highly anticipated slow runner podcast launch episodes ever! This thing has got it all. From my early running days of dominating the 3200 meter podium (DFL podium) in the mid 1980’s at Minot High, to my crazy exploits of trying to out run a forest fire while being attacked by bees in the Mount St Helens backcountry, followed by a scintillating account of a successful Boston marathon effort (full disclosure…not my effort). From there, it only gets more thrilling as I take you through some of my wilder experiences, like the time I fell out of a plane and nearly died. I even dissect my deep love and passion for bourbon at one point (to be completely transparent, not so much dissect…but I do say the word “bourbon “ twice). This is the inaugural episode of Running Behind. I tell the story of me: a slow running, DFL specialist, with a small motor, little natural ability, but a big heart and an unreasonable amount of stubbornness. An ordinary guy, trying to do extra-ordinary things. This is your chance to get to know a little bit about the host of this show, and how I plan to use this podcast to speak to all of the back of the pack and “ordinary” runners out there, who are pushing themselves daily to tackle amazing and seemingly impossible adventures. I would say the excitement is going to be non-stop, but as you soon will learn, I like to take a lot of walk breaks. Sit back and get ready, because here comes Running Behind. Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Artwork by Ed Linder

Introducing: Running Behind

Feb 11, 2025 1 min

Confession…I am a slow, but persistent trail runner who likes to take on crazy running adventures. Running Behind is a new podcast that takes a look at the wild, but beautiful world of running, trail running and ultramarathons. Mostly from the perspective of the back of the pack. Ordinary people, trying to do extra-ordinary things. We'll talk gear, training, health, nutrition and put a heavy focus on the great trails and races here in Minnesota and the Midwest. Occasionally, we will look at the unique aspects and challenges of being an older runner, and getting a late start to the game. Running Behind will be hosted by Joey Metzger, and will have occasional guests and panels to dig into the issues and explore our experiences. And who knows, if you have an interesting story to tell, especially as a DFL (dead freaking last) podium specialist or older runner, then you may find yourself behind the guest mic. Get ready for an ultra slow, but highly optimistic ride. Go hit that subscribe button, episodes will be launching soon! Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895 Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod Artwork by Ed Linder

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Created by: Joey Metzger
Status: Active
Latest episode: Nov 7, 2026
Episodes: 42
Release period: Every two weeks
Avg. episode length: 1 hr 37 min
Explicit: No
Language: English

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