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Creating a successful SaaS marketing strategy is like mixing the perfect cocktail. What are the right ingredients? How do you mix it all together to ensure people order another round? On SaaS Half Full - the only show serving B2B SaaS Marketers - host/bartender Lindsey Groepper shares a cocktail with top marketing leaders who are crafting unique strategies for success. Care to join us for a drink?

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A Look Behind Air's 6-hr CMO Stunt, with Ariel Rubin

34 min

You likely saw the six-hour CMO stunt pulled off by Air this summer - it took over LinkedIn and news feeds and was all people could talk about for a few days. This week, Lindsey sits down (with a screwdriver at 10:45 a.m. on a Wednesday, because some traditions are sacred) with Ariel Rubin, VP of Content at Air, the mastermind behind the satire that had every B2B marketer asking "wait, are they allowed to do that?" No budget, no boosted posts, no $200K production. They shot it in a day on a small camera, and it became the second-highest website driver of the year. Ari also explains why he's never had more prospects in his inbox, why he'd rather you say "I don't get it" than "great work," and what happened when a past campaign went too far. We also get into why AI keeps making your content nice and safe, why "but did it index in the LLMs?" is the wrong question, and why brand measurement is still a vibes-based necessity. Key Takeaways: Ship the work - find your brand's risk line, since you can't know where people push back until you try Don't copy the viral thing - Replicating someone else's stunt never works. Take the courage, not the script Know your audience. Not every brand needs to take huge swings, but you need to know what breaks through the noise for your buyers If you have to convince your CEO to let you have a voice, quit. Go work somewhere that does Good brand work starts arguments. Ari wants marketers debating whether a campaign is good. Indifference is the real enemy Toast of the episode: "Never above me, never below me, always with me." Listen if you've ever wondered: when was the last time you felt truly uncomfortable before hitting publish? Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:55) Ari's path from human rights to Air (10:14) Making entertainment the brand (11:19) How to find your risk line (14:17) Why discomfort is the goal (16:27) Why AI content plays it safe (17:16) Weighing risk against your ICP (21:17) The ca...

What Editors Look for in a 2027 Prediction, with Kelsey Sowder

31 min

Every fall, editors get flooded with predictions for the year ahead. The ones that stand out become trend stories, expert roundups and bylines. The rest disappear. For B2B marketers, a strong prediction is a great way to earn media coverage, build executive credibility with buyers and create content that keeps surfacing in LLM answers for years. Getting there means pushing past the safe, hedged or self-serving takes most executives start with.  In this episode, Kelsey Sowder, VP of Client Relations at PANBlast, shared how to get predictions worth running from your company spokespeople. She covers how to tailor questions to each executive, find the white space, and push the "why" and "how" until a lukewarm answer turns bold.  Kelsey and Lindsey also trade PANBlast's own predictions for B2B marketers, including why customer proof will become the credibility standard, comms will move to the front lines, and a newsletter reckoning is coming.  Key Takeaways: Ask "why" and "how" until an exec gives more than a lukewarm answer Strip hedging so every prediction is a bold, finite idea media will run Show customer proof without names, using aggregate data or "a Fortune 10 retailer" Give earned media time: older coverage still drives LLM answers today Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:33) Kelsey's 11 years and role at PANBlast (04:28) Cocktail and mocktail (05:53) What prediction season is and why it still works (08:57) How to pull predictions out of executives (10:10) Four best practices for a meaty prediction (12:02) Pushing past predictions that are really product pitches (13:25) Prediction: customer proof becomes the credibility standard (16:33) Prediction: comms moves to the front lines (19:56) Prediction: the 2027 newsletter reckoning (22:29) How clients respond to new media opportunities (25:08) Is "more content" out as a strategy? (26:52) Why earned media still matters for AI visibility (28:03) When an Ad Age feature doesn't show up...

Most Brands Chasing Narrative Are Just Making More Content, with Nicholas Lembo

33 min

Your company can publish content every day and still have no narrative. Nicholas Lembo, VP of Marketing at Coast, argues narrative is what other people say about you when you're not in the room, and most brands chasing it are really just making more content. In this episode, Nicholas breaks down why content decays while narrative compounds and lays out his three rules for building one: stay consistent, share the mic and embrace imperfection. That consistency is where trust comes from, since no brand can simply announce it's trusted. As buyers turn to LLMs for answers, getting AI to tell your story depends more on surround sound than domain authority. Nicholas explains why so many companies suddenly hiring a Head of Narrative are really hiring a content marketer, why comms and marketing end up in a turf war when one owns the story and the other owns the P&L, and why the CEO should ultimately be the face of the narrative. Key Takeaways: Why narrative compounds while content decays, and why customers, journalists and LLMs get the final say The three rules for building a narrative: stay consistent, share the mic and embrace imperfection How comms and marketing can split narrative ownership when one holds the story and the other holds the budget Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Meet Nicholas Lembo (02:42) Why narrative matters in the AI era (03:37) Nick's path to Coast (04:57) From anthropology to marketing (05:45) A dinosaur-digging detour (08:20) Marketing chaos in the AI era (09:36) Defining content, story, and narrative (12:44) The concentric circles framework (15:47) Lessons from Coast and Patagonia (19:43) Building trust through consistency (24:58) Why brands must embrace imperfection (27:39) Who should own the narrative Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/  

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A Look Behind Air's 6-hr CMO Stunt, with Ariel Rubin

34 min

You likely saw the six-hour CMO stunt pulled off by Air this summer - it took over LinkedIn and news feeds and was all people could talk about for a few days. This week, Lindsey sits down (with a screwdriver at 10:45 a.m. on a Wednesday, because some traditions are sacred) with Ariel Rubin, VP of Content at Air, the mastermind behind the satire that had every B2B marketer asking "wait, are they allowed to do that?" No budget, no boosted posts, no $200K production. They shot it in a day on a small camera, and it became the second-highest website driver of the year. Ari also explains why he's never had more prospects in his inbox, why he'd rather you say "I don't get it" than "great work," and what happened when a past campaign went too far. We also get into why AI keeps making your content nice and safe, why "but did it index in the LLMs?" is the wrong question, and why brand measurement is still a vibes-based necessity. Key Takeaways: Ship the work - find your brand's risk line, since you can't know where people push back until you try Don't copy the viral thing - Replicating someone else's stunt never works. Take the courage, not the script Know your audience. Not every brand needs to take huge swings, but you need to know what breaks through the noise for your buyers If you have to convince your CEO to let you have a voice, quit. Go work somewhere that does Good brand work starts arguments. Ari wants marketers debating whether a campaign is good. Indifference is the real enemy Toast of the episode: "Never above me, never below me, always with me." Listen if you've ever wondered: when was the last time you felt truly uncomfortable before hitting publish? Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:55) Ari's path from human rights to Air (10:14) Making entertainment the brand (11:19) How to find your risk line (14:17) Why discomfort is the goal (16:27) Why AI content plays it safe (17:16) Weighing risk against your ICP (21:17) The ca...

What Editors Look for in a 2027 Prediction, with Kelsey Sowder

31 min

Every fall, editors get flooded with predictions for the year ahead. The ones that stand out become trend stories, expert roundups and bylines. The rest disappear. For B2B marketers, a strong prediction is a great way to earn media coverage, build executive credibility with buyers and create content that keeps surfacing in LLM answers for years. Getting there means pushing past the safe, hedged or self-serving takes most executives start with.  In this episode, Kelsey Sowder, VP of Client Relations at PANBlast, shared how to get predictions worth running from your company spokespeople. She covers how to tailor questions to each executive, find the white space, and push the "why" and "how" until a lukewarm answer turns bold.  Kelsey and Lindsey also trade PANBlast's own predictions for B2B marketers, including why customer proof will become the credibility standard, comms will move to the front lines, and a newsletter reckoning is coming.  Key Takeaways: Ask "why" and "how" until an exec gives more than a lukewarm answer Strip hedging so every prediction is a bold, finite idea media will run Show customer proof without names, using aggregate data or "a Fortune 10 retailer" Give earned media time: older coverage still drives LLM answers today Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:33) Kelsey's 11 years and role at PANBlast (04:28) Cocktail and mocktail (05:53) What prediction season is and why it still works (08:57) How to pull predictions out of executives (10:10) Four best practices for a meaty prediction (12:02) Pushing past predictions that are really product pitches (13:25) Prediction: customer proof becomes the credibility standard (16:33) Prediction: comms moves to the front lines (19:56) Prediction: the 2027 newsletter reckoning (22:29) How clients respond to new media opportunities (25:08) Is "more content" out as a strategy? (26:52) Why earned media still matters for AI visibility (28:03) When an Ad Age feature doesn't show up...

Most Brands Chasing Narrative Are Just Making More Content, with Nicholas Lembo

33 min

Your company can publish content every day and still have no narrative. Nicholas Lembo, VP of Marketing at Coast, argues narrative is what other people say about you when you're not in the room, and most brands chasing it are really just making more content. In this episode, Nicholas breaks down why content decays while narrative compounds and lays out his three rules for building one: stay consistent, share the mic and embrace imperfection. That consistency is where trust comes from, since no brand can simply announce it's trusted. As buyers turn to LLMs for answers, getting AI to tell your story depends more on surround sound than domain authority. Nicholas explains why so many companies suddenly hiring a Head of Narrative are really hiring a content marketer, why comms and marketing end up in a turf war when one owns the story and the other owns the P&L, and why the CEO should ultimately be the face of the narrative. Key Takeaways: Why narrative compounds while content decays, and why customers, journalists and LLMs get the final say The three rules for building a narrative: stay consistent, share the mic and embrace imperfection How comms and marketing can split narrative ownership when one holds the story and the other holds the budget Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Meet Nicholas Lembo (02:42) Why narrative matters in the AI era (03:37) Nick's path to Coast (04:57) From anthropology to marketing (05:45) A dinosaur-digging detour (08:20) Marketing chaos in the AI era (09:36) Defining content, story, and narrative (12:44) The concentric circles framework (15:47) Lessons from Coast and Patagonia (19:43) Building trust through consistency (24:58) Why brands must embrace imperfection (27:39) Who should own the narrative Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/  

Why One Great Article Beats 20 Mentions, with Ashley Waters

40 min

One great article beats twenty passing mentions, and top-tier press does not guarantee AI even knows your brand exists. In this episode, Ashley Waters, VP of Media Relations at PAN Communications, breaks down why she runs earned media and AI visibility as two separate strategies, why the biggest headline isn't always the right placement, and why publications, podcasts, and newsletters like Substacks all now count as earned media.  Ashley also explains why reporter relationships still matter as newsrooms shrink, how Substack opened a real channel for coverage, why personalized outreach beats mass pitching, and how brands can use data on visibility, impact, and engagement to prove what their media strategy is actually worth.  Key Takeaways: Choose placements by business fit, not by which outlet has the biggest audience Count podcasts, newsletters, and Substacks as earned media, not just traditional press Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:06) Meet Ashley Waters (04:02) Building a career in media relations (06:12) How earned media is changing (08:31) Why Substack and podcasts matter (10:34) How AI visibility changes media strategy (13:01) Why brands need parallel PR strategies (16:17) How AI defines earned media differently (20:24) Measuring the value of earned media (22:38) Why impact matters more than share of voice (26:23) What is changing in traditional PR (30:54) Why marketers should think about Substack (34:16) Building relationships with reporters (36:44) Why brands should think audience first (39:03) Why earned media is becoming more valuable   Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/

Using AI to turn Comms Pros into Comms Builders, with Dan Lewis

29 min

Human judgment becomes the real competitive advantage when AI makes average marketing work easier to produce. In this episode, Dan Lewis, advisor and consultant of The Comms Stack, explains how marketers and communicators can move beyond basic AI usage and build smarter workflows around AI. Dan shares why companies should focus on the business goals they want to achieve with AI instead of simply telling teams to use new tools, and why strong communication skills, context, and strategic thinking will become even more valuable in an AI-driven world. Dan also discusses how AI is changing the role of communicators, why generic AI-generated messaging can damage trust, and how marketers can use AI as a thought partner rather than a replacement for expertise. He explains how he built an AI chief of staff using Claude Code, why marketers do not need to become developers to benefit from AI, and how communications professionals can start building their own AI-powered tools to solve real problems. Key Takeaways: Why AI adoption should start with business goals, not tools Human judgment separates great marketing from generic AI output Marketers should learn to build with AI, not just prompt it Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:19) Meet Dan Lewis (03:56) From law and storytelling to AI communications (06:18) Building The Comms Stack for the AI era (08:31) Will AI replace communications professionals? (11:53) Why generic AI messaging hurts brands (13:49) Building an AI chief of staff (16:15) How technical marketers need to become (18:49) Building AI-powered communications tools (21:14) What AI watermarks mean for marketers (24:39) Why companies need a better AI adoption strategy (27:42) Lessons from newsletter building and final thoughts Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/

Why This AI Startup Went Retro to Stand Out, with Ashley McGovern

28 min

When marketing an AI product to a non-technical audience, the standard marketing playbook doesn't work. In this episode, Ashley McGovern, Director of Marketing at Nurture Boss, explains why she ditched the standard HubSpot inbound playbook for an industry that doesn't buy in a straight line and doesn't respond to technical AI messaging. Ashley walks through how she talked a reluctant CEO into becoming the author of a company book, why she plans the distribution channel before she builds any campaign and how she measures brand-building work when there's no direct attribution to point to. Ashley also gets into the internal case she had to make to move budget away from e-books, checklists and webinars, and why marketing influenced closed-won matters more to her than MQL-to-SQL conversion right now. If your buyers don't respond to feature lists and gated content, this episode is a permission slip to get creative. Key Takeaways: • Why creativity is a competitive advantage when every AI competitor sounds the same • How print material makes an abstract AI product feel concrete • Why niche, relationship-driven audiences need a different playbook than the standard inbound model Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:09) Meet Nurture Boss marketer Ashley McGovern (04:15) From healthcare marketing to PropTech (07:33) Marketing AI to a niche audience (09:19) Why Nurture Boss chose bold campaigns (11:36) Rewriting the traditional inbound playbook (13:52) Why conventional B2B content stopped working (15:43) Convincing a technical CEO to write a book (17:30) Making abstract AI feel concrete (18:42) Turning a book into a company resource (21:19) Building memorable print campaigns (23:43) Measuring creative brand marketing (26:58) Staying human in the age of AI Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/  

Experience: The Scarcest Resource in the AI Era , with Greg Jung

32 min

Greg Jung isn't worried about AI replacing experienced marketers. He's worried about the opposite: leadership trusting an AI's output over the judgment of a marketing team with decades of real scar tissue behind it. In this episode, Greg Jung, CMO Seven Corners and Founder of Marketing Encore - a mareting resoure for marketers over 50 - explains why he thinks seasoned marketers are the scarcest resource in the AI era, and how to operationalize this experience. He also breaks down his 10-80-10 framework for pairing AI output with human experience, one marketing function at a time.  Greg shares what he calls the slop tax, or the risk of letting AI-generated strategy pull a brand away from its core identity, and the AI voice agent that won his business during a holiday-weekend plumbing emergency. Key Takeaways: The 10-80-10 rule for combining human judgment with AI output Why trusting AI more than an experienced marketing team is the real risk, not job loss How to spot AI-generated content and strategy before it goes out under your brand's name Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:17) Meet Seven Corners CMO Greg Jung (08:12) Helping seasoned marketers thrive with AI (11:13) Why more content is not better (13:48) Applying the 10-80-10 AI framework (16:49) How Nike abandoned its brand ethos (19:08) AI makes everyone feel like marketers (21:51) How to spot AI-generated marketing content (25:42) AI's future in advertising and SaaS (29:22) AI voice agent wins the business Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/

After Decades of Optimization, We've Reached the Death of the Form Fill, with Putney Cloos

28 min

B2B marketers have spent a decade optimizing for one metric above all others: the form fill. Putney Cloos, CMO of Bombora, says it's time to let it go, and the data backs her up. In this episode, Putney unpacks how the company's 6,000-site data co-op has tracked buyer behavior shifting away from broad publishers and toward niche verticals, and increasingly into LLM conversations that never touch a brand's website at all. Putney explains how marketers can now see not just which accounts are showing intent but which members of the buying committee are involved and where they sit in the journey, and why that depth of signal matters more than ever as classic tactics lose steam. Putney also digs into the trap of using intent data to confirm a decision a team already wanted to make, practical starting points for marketers who feel behind and whether B2B content is splitting into two versions entirely, one written for human buyers and one written for AI agents. Key Takeaways: Why the form fill is losing its power as a primary B2B marketing metric How to read buying-committee intent instead of just account-level activity How to avoid using intent data to confirm decisions you'd already made   Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:00) How studying history informs marketing strategy (04:21) Career journey to Bombora and B2B marketing insights (05:47) What buyers do when marketers are not watching (07:17) Evolution of intent data over the past few years (09:00) Identifying high-intent accounts and signals (11:00) How AI and LLMs impact buyer research behavior (13:18) Metrics that are losing relevance like form fills (15:00) Understanding the depth of intent across buying committees (17:37) Using intent data without falling into confirmation bias (19:15) Pros and cons of AI in marketing and content visibility (22:42) The dual-path internet challenge for content strategy (25:40) Practical steps for marketers to act on intent data Check out the ebook...

How to Optimize Content for Memorability, with Andrew Wheeler

31 min

Andrew Wheeler, CEO of Skyword, has a simple test for brand sameness: swap your logo onto a competitor's content. Could anyone tell the difference? For a growing number of B2B brands, he says, the honest answer is no. In this episode, Andrew explains why he doesn't think AI killed brand authority so much as exposed how many companies never had a distinct point of view to begin with. Andrew breaks down why Skyword refuses to let AI write original content at all and why he believes brands should optimize for perspective and memorability instead of publishing volume. Andrew also shares the moment he caught an LLM quoting a person who doesn't exist, why marketers are now intentionally writing worse to prove a human wrote it and the three things he tells CMOs to fix before they ever open a prompt window. Key Takeaways: Why AI has made brand sameness a bigger risk than brand invisibility How to build a test to check whether your content is actually differentiated Where AI adds real value in content production and where it should stay out entirely   Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:25) AI is making brands interchangeable (03:14) Andrew's journey to Skyword (05:47) Why AI mirrors early SEO (08:34) Why AI shortcuts will fail (10:40) The AI sameness test explained (13:40) Where humans beat AI content (17:49) Three ways to build authority (22:37) AI guardrails for brand consistency (24:02) Can AI replace human storytellers? (27:28) Stop chasing content volume Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/  Skyword: https://www.skyword.com/  

How to Turn Customer Events Into Revenue Drivers, with Gretchen Eischen

31 min

As AI reshapes how companies engage buyers, many B2B marketers are doubling down on automation, personalization, and digital channels. But while technology continues to evolve, one challenge remains the same: building trust and meaningful connections with customers. For many organizations, that means rethinking the role of community and in-person experiences in their growth strategy. In this episode, Gretchen Eischen, Chief Marketing Officer at Avetta, shares how her team transformed a traditional user conference into a community-driven experience that strengthened customer relationships, showcased product innovation, and created new opportunities for revenue growth. Gretchen explains how Avetta repositioned its brand around a simple, customer-centered message and then brought that vision to life through an event designed to serve the needs of both clients and suppliers. Gretchen breaks down the strategy behind securing executive buy-in for a significantly larger event investment, why she removed the traditional parade of executive presentations from the agenda, and how creating space for customer interaction, networking, and real-time product feedback led to stronger engagement. She also shares her perspective on why human connection and community building are becoming even more valuable as AI becomes a bigger part of the marketing landscape. Key Takeaways: How to build a community-first event strategy that drives business growth Why customer-led experiences create more value than executive-heavy agendas How to position in-person events as revenue and relationship-building investments Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:53) From procurement to B2B marketing (06:02) How Avetta connects clients and suppliers (09:05) Building the "Ready to Work" brand (13:30) Making the case to double budget (17:01) Replacing executive keynotes with customers (19:53) The Connection Center networking experience (24:45) Measuring pipeline, not attendance metr...

How to Reposition Your B2B Brand Without Losing Trust, with Caitlin Allen

34 min

In fast-moving B2B markets, positioning rarely stays fixed for long. As technology, buyer expectations, and competitive dynamics shift, companies have to keep refining how they communicate their value. But repositioning too often, or too abruptly, can confuse customers, slow sales momentum, and weaken trust.  In this episode, Caitlin Allen, SVP of Market & Strategic Advisory Board Chair at Simbe Robotics, unpacks what it actually takes to reposition a company multiple times while continuing to scale. Caitlin shares lessons from leading Simbe Robotics through several major shifts, from robotics to shelf digitization to the broader category of store intelligence, all while navigating long enterprise sales cycles, evolving market expectations, and increasing competitive pressure. Caitlin explains how to recognize when messaging has stopped creating meaningful differentiation and breaks down the practical work behind positioning changes, including how SaaS companies can approach AI messaging without defaulting to generic claims that fail to set them apart. Key Takeaways: How customer signals reveal when positioning has stopped differentiating Why gradual messaging shifts protect trust better than hard resets How unclear AI positioning can weaken differentiation Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:58) The retail problem Simbe Robotics was built to solve (07:01) Why Simbe Robotics has repositioned three separate times (08:55) Creating FOMO without creating fear (09:58) Building credibility through third-party validation (11:58) Moving beyond robotics into store intelligence (13:59) The signals that tell you it's time to reposition (15:57) Repositioning without disrupting active deals (17:56) Protecting brand equity while evolving the narrative (19:56) Aligning sales teams around new positioning (24:02) Why repositioning works better through "breadcrumbing" (26:58) The next shift toward store intelligence (29:00) Why most rebranding announc...

The AI Accountability Gap in B2B Marketing, with Holly Enneking

28 min

AI is helping marketing teams create more content than ever, but no one agrees on who's responsible when it's inaccurate or misses the mark.    In this episode, Holly Enneking, VP of Marketing at Markup AI, discusses the accountability gap sitting at the center of every AI-powered content workflow. With data from a new research report, she reveals why 92% of marketers are using AI more, yet only 44% actually trust the output, and why the disconnect between executive confidence and practitioner reality is creating serious risk for B2B brands.   Holly explains where AI quality breaks down most (it's in content amplification across channels), how shadow AI is spreading unchecked across marketing teams, and what immediate steps marketers can take to build governance frameworks that hold up.    Key Takeaways: Why increased AI use reveals persistent trust issues in content quality Why C-suite confidence contrasts with marketers' concerns over AI output How to ensure AI-generated content meets standards   Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:23) Holly's background in B2B marketing (03:52) What the AI content accountability gap looks like (06:38) Key data findings: 92% using AI more, but trust is low (07:43) Where AI quality breaks down: content amplification (11:11) Immediate steps to build your compliance framework (12:45) Who owns AI content governance in your org (14:14) Emerging roles and the rise of AI guardian agents (16:27) Managing shadow AI without killing experimentation (23:07) Why AI was adopted for quality, not speed, and fell short   Markup AI Survey Report: https://markup.ai/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Markup-AI-Survey-Report.pdf Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/

Why Marketers Should Care About Reddit and How to Leverage It, with Sam Perry

29 min

Reddit is now one of the most powerful drivers of AI search visibility. For B2B marketers who don't yet know how to leverage it effectively, the channel is both an untapped opportunity and a real risk.   In this episode, Sam Perry, Director of Client Relations at PANBlast, explains why jumping into Reddit with promotional intent backfires, how karma and credibility are the keys to brand participation, and why long-term engagement builds credibility in the communities your buyers live in. He also shares how marketers can identify the right subreddits to interact with and turn the channel into a meaningful source of traffic and influence.   If you've been telling yourself your brand needs to figure out Reddit, this is where to start.   Key Takeaways: Why Reddit is becoming a top source for AI search citations Why authentic conversations outperform promotional marketing content How brands can build credibility and visibility through Reddit engagement   Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:26) Reddit's role in B2B marketing (02:46) Sam Perry's background and Reddit experience (04:24) Why Reddit is rising in AI search (06:14) Why LLMs favor Reddit conversations (09:54) How karma builds credibility on Reddit (17:19) Choosing subreddits and internal Reddit owners (23:40) Reddit rules, red flags, and moderator bans (27:44) Start personal before professional Reddit engagement   Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/

The Demand Gen Engine is Breaking Buyer Trust — and What to Do About It, with Adnan Malik

30 min

The demand gen engine is built for speed and volume, which may be the biggest threat to buyer trust in B2B marketing today.   In this episode, Adnan Malik, CEO and Co-Founder of Software Finder, makes the case that most B2B marketing pipelines are set up to close the wrong deals. As AI-driven recommendations and algorithm-biased search results crowd out genuine guidance, buyers are making high-stakes software decisions based on who has the biggest budget, not the best fit. And vendors are paying for it in churn.   Adnan unpacks why consultative, human-driven matchmaking outperforms automated shortcuts, how independent reviews and authentic content are becoming the most powerful signals in modern B2B buying, and what marketers can do to build pipelines full of the right buyers.   Key Takeaways: Why pipeline quality beats lead volume in today's market Why marketers need to rethink discovery as AI changes how SaaS buyers research vendors How B2B brands can earn genuine buyer trust through independent reviews and authentic content   Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:39) Software Finder's origin story (05:32) Moving beyond review platforms (07:18) Building trust in B2B buying (11:54) LLMs and trust shortcuts explained (16:42) Marketing vs. trust-building strategies (20:40) Defining consultative selling in SaaS (24:44) Improving lead qualification processes (27:40) Adapting to fast-paced industry changes   Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/ 

Navigating AI Credibility Fatigue and the Rise of Trust Shortcuts, with Jake Doll

31 min

AI is making information faster to access but harder to trust.   In this episode, Jake Doll, VP of Client Relations at PANBlast, shares insights from PANBlast's survey of 1,000 U.S. consumers on AI credibility fatigue and how people are responding by relying on "trust shortcuts" like familiar brands, reviews, media coverage, and even AI itself to verify what they see online. He explains why growing apathy around fact-checking creates both risk and opportunity for marketers, how emerging brands can build credibility faster, and what B2B SaaS companies should do to improve visibility and trust in AI-generated search results.   Key Takeaways: How AI credibility fatigue is causing consumers to feel burnt out and apathetic about verifying information online  Why trust shortcuts like brand familiarity and third-party reviews are replacing deep research in a zero-click world  How brands can improve their visibility in AI search results by providing genuine value on platforms like Reddit and LinkedIn   Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 05:55 Jake describes AI-generated content feeding on itself like a snake eating its tail. 08:11 AI overviews can be dangerously wrong, such as claiming it is okay to give a baby soda. 11:00 Consumers are skipping deep research and relying on shortcuts like brand familiarity. 13:50 20% of respondents ironically use one AI tool to verify the accuracy of another. 18:50 Long-form video on YouTube is beating short-form clips for complex B2B topics. 24:30 Providing genuine value on Reddit helps brands surface accurately in AI search results. 27:50 A survey reveals 43% of people do not trust much of anything online anymore.   Check out the ebook " Trust Issues: How SaaS and AI-Native Brands Can Beat AI Credibility Fatigue" by PANBlast: https://www.panblastpr.com/resources/trust-issues-ai-credibility-ebook/ 

Beyond the Slop: Using AI to Actually Understand Your Customers, with Chris Silvestri

26 min

AI doesn't have to flatten your messaging into the same forgettable copy as everyone else.   In this episode, Chris Silvestri, Founder of Conversion Alchemy, discusses why B2B SaaS teams are facing a "trust recession," how weak positioning leads to churn and misaligned expectations, and why a strong point of view rooted in customer insights is now the real differentiator. Chris shares his research-first process for finding message-market fit, which includes customer interviews, competitor language analysis, and sales-call testing. He also explains how AI can be used as an input machine to deepen empathy, rather than just generate output. Additionally, he explores synthetic personas, context management, and practical ways emerging SaaS teams can validate messaging, even when customer data is limited.

Turning Inbound into 24/7 Pipeline with AI Agents, with Maura Rivera

29 min

Inbound marketing doesn't have to solely depend on human capacity anymore.   In this episode, Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified, shares how AI SDR agents are transforming how SaaS teams generate pipeline not by replacing people but by working the entire inbound funnel 24/7. She explains why traditional marketing automation and MQL models are breaking down, how agents can follow up instantly across every lead source, and what happens when you redeploy human SDRs to higher-value outbound work. Maura also discusses practical use cases like event follow-up, reactivating dormant leads, and the emerging 'bot manager' role inside modern marketing teams.  

Rethinking Market Research in the AI Era, with Kate O'Keeffe

34 min

Every company wants better market insights, but up until AI's entrance, results have been highly speculative.   How is AI upending tried-and-true market research methodology?  Kate O'Keeffe, CEO and founder of Heatseeker, joins SaaS Half Full to explain why traditional surveys and customer-led insights are no longer cutting it, and how behavioral data and AI-driven experimentation are providing marketers with data they can actually trust. In this episode, Kate outlines how brands can move beyond speculative research by leveraging live market experiments, first-party data, and synthetic personas to uncover real customer signals in real time. She also shares how leading B2B and B2C brands are using these methods to test ideas before launch, build stronger campaigns, and give marketers the confidence to push bolder creative decisions backed by quant-driven insights.  

How to Get a Wikipedia Page in 2026 (and What to Do If You Can't), with Rhiannon Ruff

35 min

Every company dreams of having a prominent Wikipedia page, but navigating the path to it is far from simple.   Oh, so you want a Wikipedia page? So does everyone else, and it's increasingly harder to achieve. Rhi Ruff, Founding Partner at Lumino Digital, has had a front-row seat to Wikipedia's rise in popularity during the AI era. In this episode, Rhi breaks down why Wikipedia is more valuable than ever, explains the challenges that SaaS and AI businesses face in securing a Wikipedia page, (with near-impossible editorial guidelines), and what steps companies can take to improve their chances. Rhi also shares insights into the increasing challenge of securing quality media coverage and what brands can do to influence Wikipedia when securing a page isn't likely.

SaaS Investor POV: Marketing's Differentiating Role, with Michelle Erickson

34 min

Every founder dreams of standing out, but too many end up sounding the same. Michelle Erikson, Vice President at Straylight Capital, has witnessed her share of B2B SaaS investment trends. In this episode, Michelle explores what she sees as the (unwelcome) "commoditization of entrepreneurship," which sectors this benefits and diminishes, and when marketing can be the key differentiator in a crowded deal landscape. She also shares how marketers can influence investment conversations, when it's crucial to have a "professionalized" brand, and the advantages and pitfalls of a founder-led strategy.

Turning Platform Data into Thought Leadership, with Amy Konary

25 min

Every SaaS company has data, but few know how to turn it into meaningful thought leadership. According to Amy Konary, Senior Vice President at Zuora and founder of The Subscribed Institute, the key lies in transforming your platform data into credible, research-driven insights that executives trust. Amy shares how she built Zuora's The Subscribed Institute to combine proprietary data, academic partnerships, and small in-person events that spark genuine connection and executive engagement. Amy also discusses the challenges of measuring brand influence, the metrics that prove value, and how other SaaS marketers can start small, partnering with their data science teams to uncover insights that drive demand, credibility, and long-term relationships.  

Building a Global "Follow-the-Sun" Model in SaaS Marketing, with Wendy White

29 min

Every SaaS marketing leader is under pressure to go faster and do more with less.   But no team can work 24/7…or can it? According to Wendy White, Chief Marketing Officer at Daxko, the "follow the sun" model of a globally distributed marketing team can unlock both speed and efficiency when built with intention. She shares lessons from nearly 20 years leading global marketing teams, including hiring trade-offs across regions, establishing rules of engagement, and creating workflows that stick. Wendy also reflects on how AI is reshaping offshore execution and why empathy and cultural awareness matter as much as KPIs in global collaboration.  

Keeping Up with AI-Driven Product Release Cycles, with Jarod Greene

37 min

Every B2B SaaS company is now living in the era of AI-driven product release cycles.   But do you need to overhaul your entire launch playbook? Not exactly, according to Jarod Greene, Chief Marketing Officer at Vivun. While speed to market has never been faster, the real challenge is balancing agility with consistency and making sure every update gets the right level of attention. Is it a major release, a minor update, or just maintenance? In this episode, we dive into how to adapt launch strategies for the AI era, measure success with immediate customer signals, and keep messaging consistent even when product roadmaps change overnight.

Marketers Moving at the Speed of AI, with Mika Yamamoto of Freshworks

31 min

In the world of AI-powered marketing, experimentation is just the beginning. But how do you scale it for real business growth? Mika Yamamoto, Chief Customer and Marketing Officer at Freshworks, joins us to share her journey of moving beyond AI experimentation to driving AI-powered growth within a marketing org. From creating AI-driven customer support solutions to scaling AI tools for sales teams, Mika talks about the trials, triumphs, and the critical role of experimentation in shaping Freshworks' AI strategy. In this episode, we talk about how to implement AI tools effectively, gain executive buy-in, and unlock true growth potential with AI.  

How to Build SaaS Pricing Pages That Convert, with Bill Wilson

28 min

Every B2B SaaS product needs a pricing page. Period. But, do you have to show all your cards? Not necessarily, according to Bill Wilson, founder & CEO of Pace Pricing. While full transparency is best for conversion, showing how you price is more important than what you charge. Do you bill monthly, annually, per seat, or usage based? In this episode, we dive into the do's & don'ts of SaaS pricing pages, including UX and copy, drawing from Bill's extensive experience helping SaaS brands redefine their pricing models and pages.

Transitioning From Enterprise to Early Stage, A CMO Journey with Niloy Sanyal

33 min

To say there are many SaaS CMOs and marketing leaders in transition right now is an understatement. A good chunk is going the fractional route, others are consultants, and some are looking to get out of the enterprise and shake it up at an early-stage company (or vice versa).    Niloy Sanyal, CMO at LeanTaaS and former CMO at GE, details the good, bad, and the ugly when it comes to jumping ship at a large organization in favor of a start up or scale up. If you are a marketing leader toying with this idea, this is the episode for you.

A Modern Video Mindset: No Gear, No Talent, No Problem with Jeremy Toeman

27 min

Despite marketers knowing the power of video, most only produce 0-1 videos per year. Why? They are stuck in the old mindset that "video production" requires equipment, polished spokespeople, and technical chops to polish it up.    In this episode, Jeremy Toeman, founder of Augie Studios, unpacks the refreshing reality of what it takes today to make videos - which is 180 degree turn from what it was 10 years ago.    Unpolished, unfiltered, and short-form video is shockingly easy to execute, but its impact on engagement and SEO is immediate. Listen to get inspiration on how to finally get your video strategy off the ground.   

Fractional CMOs: Behind the Role's Rise, with Andy Culligan

27 min

It's no secret that the CMO tenure continues to shorten. A tough SaaS economy and higher demands for the role have led to an explosion of fractional CMOs hitting the market. with many senior SaaS marketers jumping off the full-time ship in favor of focused work across more than one brand.    In this episode, Andy Culligan, fractional CMO, breaks down the benefits and barriers to fractional work - both for the marketers and the companies hiring them - and the type of SaaS companies that are best positioned to hire fractional roles.  

Building a Community: Lessons from CMO Coffee Talk, with Matt Heinz

32 min

Many marketing leaders dream of building an owned community where customers, peers, prospects and influencers gather to openly share ideas and where engagement is super high. But, this is waaaay more difficult than most marketers dream. Why? Well, Matt Heinz, founder of Heinz Marketing and moderator of the CMO Coffee Talk community, is here to unpack what he's learned along the way.  CMO Coffee Talk has more than 3,000 members (CMO or VP-level marketers) in its Slack community, and hosts a weekly Zoom call with anywhere from 300-400 members attending. It's a living, breathing, thriving community. Join Matt on this episode to dive into the do's and don'ts and lessons he's learned in building a community.  

AI Storylines: What's Wired & Tired, with Jake Doll

28 min

If you touch any part of comms or content at your SaaS org, you are hammering AI right now. The AI topic is making its way into even the most conservative verticals, and you are hard-pressed to find any media outlet or tech leader without a public POV on AI. When it comes to forming a compelling AI narrative, it's crucial to understand where the conversation is headed. Jake Doll, Director of PR at PANBlast, helps his clients develop AI narratives that catch the tails of what's trending vs. piling on top of an already-dead topic. Join us as Jake tackles what's currently "wired" and "tired" in AI storylines.

Do's & Dont's of Ad Copy and Creative with Naomi Soman

29 min

While B2B marketers have progressed their thinking to be more B2C-minded, there are concepts we simply shouldn't borrow from our B2C counterparts regarding ad copy and creative. Naomi Suman, founder of Storylogick Consulting, is an English major turned SaaS marketing consultant who has tested thousands of campaigns. In this episode, she breaks down the elements we should borrow from B2C marketing and, on the flip side, details the concepts B2B marketers should leave alone. Does ad copy containing a question convert, what about ads that feature people? Tune in to get these questions and more answered. Connect with Naomi: Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Challenging the Definition of CMO with Sydney Sloan

27 min

Sydney Sloan is a Chief Market Officer - ditching the "ing" in marketing. Why? Because the role isn't about the "doing," it's about knowing and owning the market. In this episode, Syndey discusses elevating your role as a CMO, the best strategy for board presentations, and advice for aspiring Chief Market Officers. Join us and learn how to get out of the weeds as a marketing leader and start owning your role as a strategic lead. Connect with Sydney: Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

How to Manage Search in the AI Era with Greg Brooks

32 min

SaaS marketers know by now that AI has—and will—impact search. But in an ever-changing sea of algorithms, what the heck does Google care about today (and in the future?), and how can marketers make moves now to stay ahead of where search is headed? Greg Brooks, partner and CMO at SearchTides, ironically believes we are moving towards the "human era" of search, even though there will be orders of magnitude more AI-generated content on the internet than ever before. Join us as he discusses at a high level what Google cares about when making content decisions and details tactical and practical advice on how to perform (think favicons, schema, and all the search-speak). Connect with Greg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorybbrooks/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Defining "Modern" PR & How to Nail It with Kate Johnson

29 min

Digital, modern, non-traditional…how do you define today's PR? It has evolved, and brands who understand how to play in the current landscape are gaining mindshare. In this episode, Kate Johnson, VP of PR at BLASTmedia, dives into what has driven PR's evolution, how brands should think differently about connecting with millennial buyers, and the new expectations around PR measurement. Connect with Kate: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-johnson-mba-5365ba80/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Marketing Hires: The Potential Trap of Big Brands & High Titles with Mark Donnigan

24 min

Whether you are a SaaS founder looking to make your first marketing hire or a CMO building out your team, the rocky tech economy has created a surplus of marketing talent. VPs and Directors from big tech are free agents…fantastic hires, right? According to Mark Donnigan, virtual CMO and consultant, the answer isn't always yes. In this episode, we tackle choosing the right type of hire (generalist or conductor?) and then dive into how to think more strategically about the top talent available today. Connect with Mark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdonnigan/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

What To Do When Your Best Clients Change Jobs with Trinity Nguyen

24 min

Most SaaS revenue leaders would agree that former clients ("Gems") make amazing second clients. But, how can you track job changers and operationalize an outreach program at scale? Trinity Nguyen, VP of Marketing at UserGems, joins this episode to discuss this underutilized revenue stream and walks through how to identify Gems and create a program designed to target this critical group. Connect with Trinity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trinitynguyen/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

The New Corporate Narrative That Buyers Demand with Lindsey Groepper

12 min

Gen Y and millennials — who value purpose and meaning when choosing SaaS vendors — comprise most of today's B2B decision-makers. So why are you still pushing narratives centered on products and features? Today's modern corporate narrative has evolved from CEO-driven, corporate talk tracks to more personal, human-centered narratives to form connections with a new generation of buyers. Join Lindsey Groepper, President of BLASTmedia, as she unpacks the current demands of the modern corporate narrative and how to evolve yours to build trust and establish connection. Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Surviving a New CEO Transition with Paige O'Neill

28 min

You're a SaaS CMO and received the news that you are getting a new CEO. Super! Super? Super, right?! In this episode, Paige O'Neill, CMO of Seismic, shares her story of transitioning to a new CEO with her previous role. From what the first meeting should entail to the pressures of balancing old and new, Paige gives an honest account of what she learned in the transition and the two years that followed. Bottom line? A new CEO means starting over, which can simultaneously be insanely positive and challenging as the incumbent CMO. Connect with Paige: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paigeoneill/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Marketing's Vital Role in Customer Expansion with Karen Budell

27 min

For most SaaS organizations, the customer success function has two players - the CS lead and the salesperson. But in this episode, Karen Budell, CMO of Totango, talks through a "three-legged stool" approach, with marketing as an equal leg. She believes the three functions should work together to develop and execute customer expansion campaigns, driving more revenue from existing accounts. Which, in a down market, is much less costly and time-consuming than securing new logos. Connect with Karen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenbudell/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

It's a Crapshoot: Category Creation & Positioning with April Dunford

37 min

In this episode, our host speaks with author and positioning expert April Dunford about the realities of creating a category and defining positioning to win in SaaS. Drawing from years of data and experience consulting SaaS companies, April surfaces the signals indicative of a positioning problem, pinpoints where product demos go wrong, and gets candid about VCs and startups' illusions about category creation. Connect with April: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/?originalSubdomain=ca Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

The Art & Science of Freemiums & Free Trials with Krish Ramineni

36 min

SaaS marketers know we've entered the era of the self-serve buyer, where prospects expect price transparency and free trials. While this might not work for complex enterprise deals, there are lessons to be taken from a PLG motion that most SaaS orgs should employ. Krish Ramineni, Co-founder and CEO at Fireflies.ai, dishes on how to execute a free trial successfully, what it takes to offer a freemium product, and shares his personal story on ignoring his investors' advice to stay away from a PLG model. Connect with Krish: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krishramineni/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

What Biden's Order on AI Means for Marketers with Conor Bronsdon

31 min

With Biden's recent executive order addressing the safe and secure development and use of AI, data privacy is even more mind top of mind for SaaS marketers. In this episode, Conor Bronsdon, Director of Marketing & Communications at LinearB, breaks down the order, discusses the new privacy demands on marketers, and how to build buyer trust in today's AI economy. Connect with Conor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorbronsdon/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

The Fame and Flops in Creating Memorable Brands, with Melissa Rosenthal

32 min

SaaS marketers understand the importance of a strong brand, but are you clear in your strategic narrative today? If "efficiency" is driving your narrative, this episode is for you (because, spoiler alert, "efficiency" ain't it.) In this episode, Melissa Rosenthal, Chief Creative Officer at ClickUp, unpacks the elements needed to create a memorable brand in the face of new market demands and how to measure effectiveness. Plus, she's brave enough to talk about one of her biggest brand fails and what was learned from the experience. Connect with Melissa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissarosenthal5/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Why It's Time to Axe "Enterprise Marketing" with Sarah Emmott

28 min

Whether you have added enterprise selling into a PLG motion or have always focused on the segment, SaaS marketers understand the different pain points and nuances of prospecting to the enterprise. But, should you literally market to "the enterprise?" According to Sarah Emmott, Head of Brand for Work Management at Atlassian, the answer is no. In this conversation, Sarah unpacks how enterprise prospects actually search for solutions and explains why ditching the term "enterprise" in your marketing efforts is the way forward for maximum influence. Connect with Sarah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shickman1/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Navigating Audience Data for Early-Stage Marketers with Ryan Sonnenberg

25 min

Are you an early-stage B2B SaaS marketer, or maybe you're a seasoned marketer but have limited resources to uncover the audience data you need to succeed? In this episode of SaaS Half Full, Lindsey sits down with Ryan Sonnenberg, Director of Marketing at SavvyMoney, as he spills the tea on how B2B SaaS marketers are leaving valuable audience data on the table and what tools early-stage marketers can use to help them in their audience identification journey. Connect with Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantsonnenberg/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

How Modern PR Can Support an ABM Program with Lindsey Groepper

14 min

PR and ABM…say what? Yes, there is a modern PR approach where these two strategies work together, adding more value to your PR investment. Our host, Lindsey Groepper, forgoes a guest this week to share her thoughts on this topic, including how to align your ABM targets with thought leadership efforts to create direct touchpoints with the individual prospects your BDRs are targeting. Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Taking Marketing Risks in a Strained Economy with Emily Montgomery

27 min

If you're a SaaS marketer who tends to be risk-averse, the last 12 months have not been your friend. Market volatility and "doing more with less" do not pair well with taking chances, but Emily Montgomery, VP of Professional Services at Xplor, believes there are still opportunities to take calculated risks…and it starts with a mindset shift. Listen in as we explore how to "experiment and learn" to create a culture of risk among your marketing org and the channels most ripe for experimentation. Connect with Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-montgomery-8995361/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Threads, Mastodon, X, and More: A Look at Social Mayhem with Karri Carlson

34 min

It's been a minute since the social media industry has been in the spotlight, but the past six months have been poppin' off. Between the launch of Threads and Twitter rebranding to X, there's a wealth of new info to digest if social media falls under your purview (in-house or via an agency partner). In this episode, Karri Carlson, VP of Operations at LeadTail, updates us on the platform changes that matter, new platforms emerging (like Mastodon), and the trend of "atomizing" social into niche communities with their own set of rules and community standards. Connect with Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heykarri/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

Bot Rising: AI's Volume, Velocity & Variety with Pete Housley and Amanda (Elam) Cole

38 min

By now, we get it: AI is here to stay and makes marketing more efficient. But, what fears do marketers have around AI, how do you responsibly feed the board's appetite for AI, and to what level do marketing leaders need to understand the technology? In this episode, we're joined by Pete Housley, CMO at Unbounce, and Amanda (Elam) Cole, CMO at Bloomreach, to dig into these questions. Listen in for a deeper understanding of the seemingly unlimited opportunities of the technology and also the potential pitfalls. Connect with Pete: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-housley-a3653012/?originalSubdomain=ca Connect with Amanda: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aelam/ Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/

CMOs Speak: CEOs Are Undervaluing Brand

7 min

What do CMOs wish more CEOs understood about marketing? It's the big question we ask our guests at the end of each episode, and through the first half of the year, many answers came back to one core topic - CEOs not valuing brand enough. In this episode, we're bringing you a compilation of our guests' answers and biggest wish: that more CEOs understood not everything in marketing can be measured. Check out the full episodes for all of the guests featured in this episode: https://www.blastmedia.com/resources/?type=podcast Connect with Lindsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseygroepper/ Learn more about BLASTmedia: https://www.blastmedia.com/ 

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