Take 2 Podcast: Utah’s political earthquake raises questions about what comes next
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Utah House Speaker: Republicans must rebuild trust after major election losses
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In an exclusive interview with KUTV’s Heidi Hatch, Mike Schultz said voters felt unheard. He also outlined a plan to reduce K-6 class sizes and said President Trump may have gone too far on immigration enforcement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Blue tsunami nationally reflected in Utah races top to bottom: What happened and why?
1 hr 2 min
Democrats could break the GOP’s supermajority in the Utah House. Democratic and unaffiliated candidates were on track to flip 15 House seats and two Senate seats. Republicans are expected to keep control, but losing the House supermajority would limit their ability to override vetoes or advance constitutional amendments without support from other lawmakers. Senate leadership is in limbo. Senate Majority Leader Kirk Cullimore was trailing Democrat Shana Anderson by more than 4,000 votes, after being considered a possible successor to Senate President Stuart Adams, who lost his primary. Senate leaders are scheduled to choose leadership Friday, while ballots are still being counted. Sen. Scott Sandall of Box Elder County could jump into the Senate leadership race with Sen. Evan Vickers Mike Schultz will lead House again, but who else will fill in leadership positions in the House? Ben McAdams won Utah’s new 1st Congressional District. His victory returns a Democrat to Utah’s House delegation for the first time since 2021. Blake Moore won the new 2nd District, and Celeste Maloy won reelection in the 3rd. Mike Kennedy won the 4th District. Utah voters rejected Amendment B and approved Amendment A. B would have required a 60% vote to pass certain citizen-led initiatives involving taxes. A removes the requirement that future proposed amendments and initiatives be published in newspapers before an election. The count is continuing, with local races still in play. Salt Lake County had more than 100,000 Election Day ballots to process, and the added voter-information verification is slowing the count. Early returns also pointed to a possible Democratic majority on the Salt Lake County Council and support for a parks and recreation bond. Sen. Kathleen Riebe faces calls to resign says she will not. The Utah Senate Minority Caucus voted to remove Riebe from the caucus and called for her resignation after an independent investigation found a pattern of...
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Take 2 Podcast: Utah’s political earthquake raises questions about what comes next
1 hr 5 min
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Utah House Speaker: Republicans must rebuild trust after major election losses
51 min
In an exclusive interview with KUTV’s Heidi Hatch, Mike Schultz said voters felt unheard. He also outlined a plan to reduce K-6 class sizes and said President Trump may have gone too far on immigration enforcement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Blue tsunami nationally reflected in Utah races top to bottom: What happened and why?
1 hr 2 min
Democrats could break the GOP’s supermajority in the Utah House. Democratic and unaffiliated candidates were on track to flip 15 House seats and two Senate seats. Republicans are expected to keep control, but losing the House supermajority would limit their ability to override vetoes or advance constitutional amendments without support from other lawmakers. Senate leadership is in limbo. Senate Majority Leader Kirk Cullimore was trailing Democrat Shana Anderson by more than 4,000 votes, after being considered a possible successor to Senate President Stuart Adams, who lost his primary. Senate leaders are scheduled to choose leadership Friday, while ballots are still being counted. Sen. Scott Sandall of Box Elder County could jump into the Senate leadership race with Sen. Evan Vickers Mike Schultz will lead House again, but who else will fill in leadership positions in the House? Ben McAdams won Utah’s new 1st Congressional District. His victory returns a Democrat to Utah’s House delegation for the first time since 2021. Blake Moore won the new 2nd District, and Celeste Maloy won reelection in the 3rd. Mike Kennedy won the 4th District. Utah voters rejected Amendment B and approved Amendment A. B would have required a 60% vote to pass certain citizen-led initiatives involving taxes. A removes the requirement that future proposed amendments and initiatives be published in newspapers before an election. The count is continuing, with local races still in play. Salt Lake County had more than 100,000 Election Day ballots to process, and the added voter-information verification is slowing the count. Early returns also pointed to a possible Democratic majority on the Salt Lake County Council and support for a parks and recreation bond. Sen. Kathleen Riebe faces calls to resign says she will not. The Utah Senate Minority Caucus voted to remove Riebe from the caucus and called for her resignation after an independent investigation found a pattern of...
Four Days Until Election Day Rapid Fire Issues, the latest and greatest before election day
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Heidi Hatch, Maura Carabello and Thomas Wright Amendment B: New poll shows a shift in voter sentiment GOP Statement on Amendment B Polling Utah Poll of Record: 56% oppose Amendment B Noble Predictive Insights polling record? Are they usually on target or off base? Trump’s approval in Utah Trump is urging voters to treat the midterms as if his name were on the ballot. Noble’s Utah poll finds his approval at 66% among Republicans. Democrats disapprove 99% to 1%, while independents disapprove 72% to 25%. Trump cancels weekend rallies then rebooks Salt Lake County tax and bond mailer Salt Lake County sent a mailer this week about a proposed tax increase while also asking voters to approve a bond. Will the tax increase kill voters desire to say yes to the recreation bond? Utah legislative leadership elections Leadership elections are scheduled for next week. Senate President: Sen. Evan Vickers (R-Cedar City) vs. Sen. Kirk Cullimore (R-Draper) Ballot packet errors in two counties Early turnout Judicial retention debate Economy and Affordability Mortgage rates Utah home prices and buyer leverage Alaska double candidate-name controversy Utah Voting Reminder Mail ballots must reach county election officials by 8 p.m. on Nov. 3. Voters can also use a drop box or vote in person. Same-day registration is available at vote centers with two forms of valid ID. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Data Center Battles, Election Security, Fight for for Control of Congress
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello and Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz What you'll hear this week: Utah congressional debates: What issues will drive voters to the polls? Data center protests, arrests and potential legislation in 2027. Could data centers become a national election issue? Constitutional Amendments A & B: What's at stake? DOJ election monitors coming to Utah. Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson's 60 Minutes interview and threats against election officials. Federal judge stalls U.S. Forest Service headquarters move to Utah. Utah legislative races to watch. Criminal charges against Utah sheriffs and questions about accountability. National election outlook: Who will control the U.S. House and Senate? Election Day: November 3, 2026. Listen to this week's Take 2 Podcast for political analysis and discussion from both sides of the aisle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah’s Election sprint, ballot amendments, death penalty debate
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This week on Take 2 Podcast: Heidi Hatch is joined by Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group and Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson. The 2026 election sprint: Mail ballots go out Oct. 13 ahead of Utah’s Nov. 3 general election. The new Salt Lake-centered 1st Congressional District and whether it could help determine the balance of power in Washington. Breaking down the CD1 debate between Democrat Ben McAdams and Republican Riley Owen: Did either candidate move undecided voters? What to watch for in the CD3 debate between Republican Rep. Celeste Maloy and Democratic challenger Kent Udell. New polling on how Utahns are feeling about the midterms — and whether optimism, anxiety and the national political environment will shape turnout. Constitutional Amendments A and B, including the proposed 60% threshold for citizen initiatives that create or increase taxes. Former Utah Rep. Trevor Lee’s fraud charges, resignation and the impact on public trust. Two major death-penalty developments: the halted execution of Tennessee inmate Christa Pike and the release on bond of Utah death-row inmate Douglas Carter after more than 40 years. CBS News’ partnership with prediction market Kalshi: Useful political data or a risky new influence on election coverage? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Election Security, UVU Review, Curtis Calls for Investigation
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Heidi Hatch is joined by Maura Carabello with the Exoro Group and Rep. Ryan Wilcox, who sits on the Utah Legislative Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Interim Committee. The 158-page UVU campus-safety review following the Charlie Kirk shooting: staffing, coordination and accountability. The Supreme Court allowing the Trump administration to use the SAVE database to check voter citizenship — and what it means for Utah’s election administration and voter privacy. The federal case against a Utah postal worker accused of discarding about 300 Eagle Mountain ballots and other mail — and whether the case undermines trust or shows election safeguards working. Sen. John Curtis calling for an investigation into Donald Trump Jr. and Hunter Biden over presidential family business dealings and foreign connections. Whether Utah lawmakers can write meaningful guardrails for Flock cameras, license plate readers and artificial intelligence before the 2027 legislative session. New polling showing Utahns’ concerns about data-center growth, water use and the pressure to keep up with the tech economy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson joins Heidi Hatch to discuss Utah’s legal fight with the U.S. Department of Justice
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This week on the Take 2 podcast, Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson joins Heidi Hatch to discuss Utah’s legal fight with the U.S. Department of Justice over access to voters’ unredacted personal information. The interview was recorded Sept. 14, just hours before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the separate USPS case. Henderson says the lawsuit will not affect Utah’s upcoming election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: 9/11 at 25, Charlie Kirk memorial debate, governor’s national profile
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Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They also discuss Gov. Spencer Cox’s “Disagree Better” campaign, questions surrounding his growing national profile and a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Utah’s in-state tuition policy for undocumented immigrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group, and Doug Fiefia, Utah representative and Senate candidate Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session To Flock or Not to Flock? This week: Utah lawmaker to propose “parameters” for Flock cameras and ALPRs Two months out from Election Day President Trump on the campaign trail Bears Ears and Grand Staircase protections Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Returns: Election Watch, Data Centers, Where's the beef?
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Take 2 Podcast Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello and Adam Gardiner Welcome back after the Take 2 summer break. While we were taking a break - Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall’s divorce filing and whether she will run for reelection as Luz Escamilla enters the race. Sen. Todd Weiler’s new role leading the Sutherland Institute. Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante resized. The continuing war with Iran. More than half a million acres burned in Utah this summer. Flock cameras—and why so many Utahns are pushing back. Nine weeks until Election Day. Election watch The SAVE America Act: voter ID, proof of citizenship and whether changes can be implemented before November. Utah voters on election requirements: 66% support proof of citizenship at registration, according to the latest Deseret News-Hinckley Institute poll. The Supreme Court’s mail-voting ruling and Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson’s response that it currently has no effect on Utah. New polling: Gov. Spencer Cox, Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. John Curtis all in negative territory, with independents moving away from Cox. Utah politics and policy The Stratos AI data-center backlash, calls to reform MIDA, and questions over water, heat, noise and public accountability. Utah Senate President Stuart Adams’ demand for retractions and threats of lawsuits. Inflation, high gas prices and high beef prices. Trump’s imported-beef plan—and pushback from Utah ranchers and members of Utah’s congressional delegation. Tyson’s Eagle Mountain closure: 700 jobs lost after five years, despite a 10-year agreement and major tax incentives. Utah’s $212 million Meta settlement and how the state should spend it on youth mental-health concerns. If time: Gov. Cox’s new book, Off Ramp, out Sept. 8. Coming up Friday, Sept. 4: Rep. Doug Fiefia Friday, Sept. 11: Rep. Cal Roberts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah's wildfire crisis, Supreme Court decisions, and what's next in Utah politics
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz Utah Legislative Primary Races Lessons Learned, who will lead the Utah Senate Wildfire Crisis in Utah Fallen Firefighters Three wildland firefighters killed on the Utah-Colorado border Two additional firefighters seriously injured Cottonwood Fire More than 100 condos and 30 cabins destroyed at Eagle Point Resort Damage assessment continues Wildland Firefighter Employment Protections Should part-time wildland firefighters have job protection when called to active duty? Forest Service Staffing Cuts Are management and staffing cuts contributing to current wildfire challenges? Headquarters relocation from Washington, D.C., to Salt Lake City Supreme Court Decisions Transgender Sports Supreme Court upheld state laws banning transgender students from participating on girls sports teams 6-3 decision Mail Ballots Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that states may count mail ballots received after Election Day if they were postmarked by Election Day More than a dozen states currently follow this practice Birthright Citizenship Supreme Court struck down President Trump's executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship 6-3 decision in Trump v. Barbara Charlie Kirk Murder Case Court Hearing Next Week Accused killer Tyler Robinson back in court Charlie Kirk's parents, widow Erika and others expected to attend Tight courtroom security, no electronics allowed Utah Supreme Court expected to decide before Monday whether Robinson's roommate/romantic partner must testify Happy Birthday America – 250 years’ worth celebrating We will be taking a July summer break. Thanks for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Primary upsets, wildfire crisis, Washington politics
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Hosts: Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair (joining from Washington, D.C.) Fire danger across Utah Statewide fireworks restrictions and the new law allowing cities to designate safe discharge zones. The Cottonwood Fire in Beaver County, now expected to become the costliest wildfire in Utah history. Gov. Spencer Cox's comments on the destruction. Looking ahead to the dangerous fire weather forecast. Primary election shakeup Several high-profile incumbents lost Tuesday's primary: Senate President Stuart Adams Sen. Dan McCay Rep. Trevor Lee Two Box Elder County commissioners What do these results say about the direction of Utah Republican politics? Congressional races Democrats Ben McAdams wins the Democratic nomination in Congressional District 1. What does his victory say about the party moving away from convention-selected candidates? Republicans Rep. Blake Moore wins his primary over Karianne Lisonbee. Does Lisonbee have a political future after this race? Rep. Celeste Maloy defeats Phil Lyman. Is this the end of Lyman's statewide political influence? Voting issues Some Democratic voters reported not receiving ballots. Was this simply a learning curve with the first Democratic congressional primary conducted this way, or is there more to examine? Supreme Court rulings Major decisions released this week. Which rulings have the biggest impact on Utah and national politics? SAVE Act President Trump's push for the SAVE Act. Why is the administration making a full-court press now? What are the political and legal implications? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: ICE detention, mail-in ballots, Congressional races, Iran deal
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HOST: Heidi HatchGUESTS: Maura Carabello, John Dougall ICE plans to sell warehouse facilities in Salt Lake, six other cities moving back to existing detention space “From day one, DHS has remained singularly focused on removing the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens from the United States and is always evaluating the best methods to do so. These heinous criminals, once arrested, should be removed at lightning speed, not housed on American soil at the taxpayer’s expense. DHS is moving swiftly to utilize EXISTING detention space with our state and county partners.” - DHS Voter Turnout - Thursday 5pm Salt Lake County 20% A new Utah law requires mail ballots to be received by 8 p.m. on Election Day. Previously, ballots only needed a postmark by the day before Election Day. The change comes from HB300, which passed the Legislature last year. Trump on Utah Mail in Ballots Will Utah’s new deadlines avoid headlines we are seeing out of California with long delays Utah County Clerk's Office hired a 23-year-old conservative influencer to be the chief deputy clerk Karianne Lisonbee, without evidence, accuses Blake Moore of ‘insider trading’ before deleting X post Salt Lake County Allegations Liban Mohamed was escorting voters to the polls- Clerk apologizes Utah Supreme Court Justices approved by Senate Statement from the Utah Democratic Party on the Packing of Utah's Supreme Court “It is not a coincidence that these appointments come as the Supreme Court prepares to hear landmark cases on redistricting and reproductive rights. Across this country, courts are being reshaped not to deliver justice, but to preserve political power. Our state is not immune. Utahns deserve better.” Iran Memorandum of Understanding Both sides agreed to "the immediate and permanent end to military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon." Iran can begin exporting oil as soon as the MOU is signed. Iran "will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe p...
Take 2 Podcast: Politics of Fire, Pentagon religion slight, Election drama, Colorado River
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THE POLITICS OF FIRE Fires in Utah in full swing this week Tooele County, multiple fires, arson arrest SLC Capitol Hill Fire - State says started by homeless, City says they don’t know Mike Lee ignites controversy after adding roadless rule repeal to a wildfire bill 13-year-old girl dies at Pineview after dead tree falls: Would Pineview Reservoir be safer if it were a state park? Not US Forest Service land Pentagon Classification of Latter-day Saints Election Day 11 days out - Drama between campaigns ramps up PAC cash flowing into Congressional races Trevor Lee Race - voters get video text describing fraud allegations Senator Dan McCay sends out mailer with endorsement from Senator John Curtis - Curtis said he is neutral on the race Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, warned states involved in Colorado River disputes could lose access to remaining federal conservation funding if they pursue litigation over water rights. SLC Council picks new member with a coin flip SLC, Salt Lake County sue DHS over planned Detention Center House GOP Vice Chair Blake Moore will host the annual NRCC summer meeting in Utah this weekend Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Fidelity Month, Data Centers, Primary Debates, NIL Cash
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts Gov. Spencer Cox declared June "Fidelity Month in Utah." In his declaration, Cox said that American support for traditional values has "significantly declined." "A majority of Americans no longer esteem values like faith, family, patriotism or community involvement," he continued. He said it is "imperative" that Utah's "recommit" themselves to the pursuit of fidelity, defined as "dedication to faith, family and country." DATA CENTERS Senate President Stuart Adams and Kevin Oleary, write each other letters and make a deal to downsize No referendum BEAR group files lawsuit to get the issue on the November ballot Should massive data centers get tax incentives PRIMARY ELECTION JUNE 23RD Winner and Losers or nothing gained or lost in Congressional Debates? Ballots should be in your mailbox this week Tooele County sent out 9,000 bad ballots, mistake made at printer U of U private equity capital deal for the athletic program The University of Utah's groundbreaking private equity deal is a historic $500 million partnership with the New York-based firm Otro Capital. The deal shifts the school's commercial revenue operations—like ticketing, corporate sponsorships, and licensing—into a for-profit entity called Crimson Brand Partners (formerly Utah Brands & Entertainment LLC) Utah state auditor says Utes’ private-equity deal has ‘significant risks.’ Here are her concerns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Speaker Mike Schultz on data center, 2028 governor's race
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Heidi Hatch 2 News Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Mike Schultz, Utah House Speaker Data Center Referendum: A Box Elder County group wants voters there to decide proposed data center’s fate Elevate Utah accuses Speaker Mike Schultz of buying up property to profit off data Center Schultz, a cattle rancher in Box Elder and neighboring counties, responds Forget about 2026, everyone is talking 2028: John Curtis running for Governor 2028 RACE: Former Congressman Jason Chaffetz, Senator John Curtis, Speaker Mike Schultz, Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson, Traeger Grills CEO Jeremy Andrus, entrepreneur Brad Bonham and Rep. Blake Moore Murray City School District awarded $13 million Catalyst Center grant to launch groundbreaking healthcare academy The Healthcare Academy will initially focus on three high-demand disciplines: Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA): A foundational pillar of patient care. Radiology Technician Assistant: The first program of its kind in the nation offered to high school students. Behavioral Health Assistant: Among the first in Utah and the nation to be offered at the secondary level. NEW BILL ALREADY IN USE: Child Care Business Tax Credit HB 190 Stadler is using the child care business tax credit sponsored by Rep. Jason Thompson to help build a child care facility with more capacity than they need themselves, helping create more child care options for other businesses and working families nearby. Eva Lopez out SLC Council – She does not live in the district Councilwoman Eva Lopez Chavez’s seat was vacated after a short investigation from the Salt Lake City Attorney’s Office, which found that she “failed to maintain a primary place of residence” within her district. Trump Administration moves to strip conservation from America’s Public Lands eases grazing regulations Trump visits China War with Iran continues and creates a Take 2 war of its own Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoi...
Take 2 Podcast: Deep dive on Utah's new Data Center, Justice resigns, Utah gas tax cut
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Marua Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts BREAKING: Utah Supreme Court Justice Diana Hagen resigns amid conflict-of-interest allegations in Prop 4 case Data Center passes Box Elder Commission vote 3-0 Better Utah calls for investigation into Senate Pres. Stuart Adams after donations to his PAC- but have no proof of wrongdoing Questions over lawmakers benefiting from Data Center How will Utah taxpayers benefit from new Data Center Utah Focus Legislative Session on AI: State Coordination of Regional and Local Economic Development Projects HB 507 What is MIDA and how powerful are they Gas Tax cut kicks in- how will the savings grow over time Rep. Roberts was just appointed chair of the House Government Operations Committee Primary sponsor Housing Bill HB 492 HB492, which recently passed the Utah Legislature, aims to tackle the state's severe housing shortage by directing $100 million in low-interest loans from the Transportation Investment Fund to local governments for critical infrastructure projects. The funding would support essential developments such as water tanks, sewer lift stations, treatment plants, and regional roads—key bottlenecks preventing thousands of already-approved homes from being built. SLC Eva Lopez Chavez out during investigation into accusations of sexual misconduct SLC Mayor asks for 12.5% tax increase Phil Lyman would like 18 debates with Maloy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: Assassination Attempt, Data Center, Statewide Convention winners and losers, Iran, SCOTUS ruling
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Thomas Wright (Former Utah GOP Chair, 2020 Gubernatorial Candidate, Real estate broker) White House correspondents’ dinner attempted assassination Utah Box Elder County Data Center Governor Cox: Utah and other states have an obligation to "allow" the sprawling facilities. "There is a national security piece to this that has to be acknowledged," Cox said in response to a 2News question at his monthly PBS Utah news conference. "We have to do this. We just can't say no and shut the doors and go home and let China win this technology race." Scale: The project would cover approximately 40,000 acres in the remote Hansel Valley area of western Box Elder County. Power Demand: It is planned to produce and consume up to 9 gigawatts (GW) of power at full capacity (initially 3 GW), which is more than double the entire state of Utah's current average usage of roughly 4 GW. Energy Source: Power would likely be generated on-site using natural-gas-fired plants hooked into the Ruby Pipeline, which runs through the area. Water Usage: The project proposes a "closed-loop" water system to cool the systems, with officials claiming it will be a net positive for the Great Salt Lake. However, critics and some scientists have raised major concerns about the "heat island effect" and the impact on local water resources. Status & Approval: On April 27, 2026, the Box Elder County Commission tabled a decision on the proposal following public outcry and concern that the process was being rushed. Upcoming Action: A public meeting is scheduled for May 4, 2026, at 4 p.m. at the Box Elder County Fairgrounds in Tremonton. Democratic Convention Liban Mohammed wins D1 Race: A progressive surge in Utah? Liban Mohamed’s win in 1st District sets up high-stakes primary 51.8% Ben McAdams 48.5% Eva Lopez SLC Council Investigation into accusations of sexual misconduct Four people accuse Eva Lopez Chavez, a SLC Council member, o...
Take 2 Podcast Convention weekend and the scandals in both parties
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Host: Heidi HatchGuest: Morgan Lyon Cotti Associate Director Hinckley Institute of Politics Conventions this weekend Delegates pick their candidates Inner party battles front and center Democrats now have 4 qualified candidates through signatures from the new Utah CD1 race 2 candidates facing accusation of wrongdoing Nate Blouin, Eval Lopez Chavez Republicans have an inner party fight in Utah CD3 Rep Celeste Maloy qualified through signatures Will Lyman get the nod from delegates or will Maloy still have a chance to shut him out at convention? Trevor Lee dealing with his own accusations of check fraud and pay for play Made it out of the Davis County convention alive, but lost to Stevenson Why are we seeing what seems like so many bombshells pre-convention this year New Hinckley Presidential Polling – Utahns support of President Trump fading Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Political controversies and campaign shakeups rock Utah campaign season
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Host: Heidi HatchGusts: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Nic Dunn, Sutherland Institute Utah Supreme Court justice faces allegations of impropriety in Prop 4 case In 2025, the Beehive Family earned $123,716 and paid $34,482 in taxes, about 28% of household income. That breaks down to nearly 2½ hours of every workday spent paying taxes UVU commencement speaker Sharon McMahon cancels Nate Blouin makes national headlines over vulgar social media history Utah legislative Democrats condemn Blouin Two businessmen accuse Utah Rep. Trevor Lee of past check fraud and abuse of power Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz says the Legislature is reviewing the allegations Signature gathering ends, Utah CD3 heads toward a convention showdown Swalwell and Gonzales resign from Congress under threat of expulsion TMZ opens a Washington, D.C., office and offers cash for tips, raising questions about whether more candidates could drop out or step down Trump posts a meme depicting himself as Jesus Provo Cougar Pride hosts event featuring a piñata resembling Sen. Mike Lee, a painting of President Donald Trump’s severed head on a platter, and decorative Molotov cocktails for sale Happy Tax Day, Utah families spend nearly 2½ hours each workday paying taxes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: JD Vance set to lead ceasefire talks this weekend, Utah gas prices higher than national average
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Take 2 Podcast, Friday, April 10, 2026 Heidi Hatch with Maura Carabello of Exoro Group and Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz. Vice President JD Vance is set to lead ceasefire talks this weekend, as tensions tied to a potential conflict with Iran continue. There are ongoing questions about whether a ceasefire will hold and if the Strait of Hormuz will remain open. Gas prices in Utah are now higher than the national average, $4.26 compared to $4.16. Lawmakers are also discussing how the state’s gas tax bill works and what it means for drivers. As the legislative session wraps, the group looks at highlights and lowlights, including early fundraising in Utah’s newly redrawn congressional districts and the latest update on efforts to repeal Proposition 4. President Donald Trump is requesting $1 billion to restore and protect the Great Salt Lake, bringing renewed attention to the lake’s decline and long-term environmental concerns. Salt Lake County Mayor Jenny Wilson is urging the Department of Homeland Security to abandon a proposed detention center in Salt Lake City. In an April 6 letter, she raised concerns about the plan, as questions remain about whether DHS can back out after already purchasing the site. Utah’s job market continues to grow. Nonfarm payroll employment increased an estimated 0.6% over the past 12 months as of January 2026. A Utah Valley University commencement decision is drawing more attention. The selection of Sharon McMahon as speaker is facing criticism, with College Republicans speaking out against the choice. Photo Courtesy: Jackson Murphy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah's Congressional Races, LDS GOP numbers shift, Washington County Sheriff
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Carolyn Phippen, Political Advisor CD1: Democrats try new tactic to win House seat in Utah, running as progressives in red state Open Primary: Who will it favor? DATA FOR PROGRESS INTERNAL POLL RESULTS dfp_ut01_memo_crosstabs.pdf Signatures for D1 Blouin and McAdams will both be in the primary CD2: House Speaker Mike Johnson and Jim Jordan Endorse Blake Moore for Reelection– Lisonbee counting on Convention support- calls out Moore for Advertising campaign using House $$ Latter-day Saints are the 2nd most Republican religious group in America — but also the only one shifting away Washington County Sheriff steps down after accusations of misconduct President Trump signs an order directing the creation of a national eligible voter list Lt Governor immediately spoke out against the order Forest Service Headquarters moves to Salt Lake City Trump “You’re Fired” AG Pam Bondi DHS Kristis Noem President Trump is requesting $1 billion to restore Great Salt Lake as part of his annual budget proposal to Congress Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Prop 4 dead? Trump pays TSA, No water for ICE, Vetoes, Big bills on Utah’s Capitol Hill
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Take 2 Podcast March 27 Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello Exoro Group Rep Ryan Wilcox Utah Legislature Repeal Prop 4 dies in Senate District 15 with signature removals Trump signs emergency order to pay TSA agents as Congress struggles to reach funding deal SLC Mayor Mendenhall: No water for ICE facility Governor Cox vetoes: HB462: Gov. Spencer Cox vetoes bill providing internet service on Utah’s rural school buses HB164: Would have required health care providers to tell patients how to file complaints with the state Division of Professional Licensing School bell-to-bell cell phone ban All prop bets are off in Utah under new law Curtis, Schiff introduce bipartisan legislation to ban sports prediction market contracts Wilcox bills: HB0044S07 Criminal Use of Cryptocurrency Amendments HB0072S02 Coercion Amendments Creates the criminal offense of aiding or encouraging suicide (moving the current language regarding aiding suicide from the criminal offense of manslaughter). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: ICE controversy intensifies as Utah Gov. Cox releases unity-focused book
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Host: Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello Exoro Group John Dougall Former State Auditor Utah Caucus night Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz endorses Karianne Lisonbee against incumbent Congressman Blake Moore Prop 4 Repeal Update – Senator Riebe District within striking distance for Better Boundaries 102 signatures beyond requirement ICE warehouse SLC spurs protests and condemnation from SLC and County Mayor’s Utah Democrats SLC Mayor Mendenhall says they won’t run utilities and can’t to the warehouse, demands meeting with DHS Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said he was not given any notice that the Department of Homeland Security was purchasing a warehouse in Salt Lake City Cox said he supports having an ICE detention center in Utah: He said such a center is necessary in the West, as several states, he argued, lack space to hold migrant detainees. Cox said he’d discussed establishing a detention center in the state with President Joe Biden’s administration prior to Trump taking office again. February Polling on ICE Detention in Utah Cesar Chavez: An investigation by The New York Times found extensive evidence that the United Farm Workers co-founder groomed and sexually abused girls Utah Legislature named scholarships after Chavez SLC named 500 South after the Labor leader – Gov. Cox signs 72 bills in the 2026 General Legislative Session Governor Cox new book Random House has announced a book deal with Spencer Cox, offering what the Utah governor calls a guide to lowering political tensions in the U.S. The book, titled Off Ramp, focuses on depolarization and aims to help Americans navigate disagreements in everyday life, from the dinner table to social media and politics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Legislative Session, Utah Congressional Races Shaping up
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group • Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair Utah Legislative Session Sen. Adams kills bill passed seconds after midnight Last-minute signature removal law passed Utahns for Representative Government gets signatures to put repeal of Prop 4 on the ballot The petition to repeal Utah Proposition 4 ended up with nearly 166,000 verified signatures. Signature removal deadline: April 23 Utah Congressional Races Shaping up Utah CD1 Race shifting to the left. A public town hall was held for the eight Democratic candidates running for Congress in Utah’s 1st District. Ben McAdams did not participate. Utah CD2 Blake Moore, the 5th-ranked House Republican, is facing a primary challenge. Karianne Lisonbee is serving her fourth term representing District 14. Before her election to the legislature, she served on the Syracuse City Council. Utah CD3 Celeste Maloy, who won a hard-fought battle in the caucus convention, will face a challenger in Phil Lyman, who previously announced he would run for governor. Utah CD4 Mike Kennedy has filed to run for re-election and already has two Republican primary challengers in the race. Key Political Dates Caucus Night: Tuesday, March 17 Utah Conventions: April 25 National Issues What Americans think about the war in Iran, and whether it could affect the midterms. Partial government shutdown continues nearly a month in, with Utah TSA workers going without pay. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: State of the Union hit or miss? Prop 4 signature verification; SAVE Act
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Take 2 Podcast – Friday 2/27 Host Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, John Dougall State of the Union Hit or miss Senator Mike Lee’s SAVE America Act received a standing ovation. Congressman Blake Moore recognized in the third row (no name) for naming Trump accounts. Some Democrats held an alternate event outside in animal costumes. Democratic leadership had Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger deliver the rebuttal, focusing on affordability. Proposition 4 Signature Verification Utah GOP has surpassed the statewide number needed to repeal Prop 4: 157,898 verified signatures. Congressman Blake Moore urges voters to let the process play out and stop attempting to remove signatures: “As a former co-chair of Better Boundaries, I encourage them and all parties to stop trying to undo the petition to reconsider Proposition 4 by attempting to remove signatures.” Federal District Court and Utah Supreme Court dismiss redistricting lawsuits; GOP options limited unless they appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. Utah Legislature Updates Bills Introduced: 1,019 S.B. 308 – Judicial District Amendments: Will not move forward this session. Sen. Todd Weiler cited feedback from the Utah State Bar and legal community. HB88 – Immigrant Services Funding: Debate halted by Rep. Karen Peterson; bill sponsor Rep. Trevor Lee framed as protecting taxpayer money. Prediction Markets: Legislature advances ban on proposition betting; Attorney General warns online betting blurs legal lines. HB 423 – DUI and Hit-and-Run Amendments: Passed House committee and floor unanimously; Senate committee passed unanimously; now headed to full Senate vote. Closes gap where fleeing after seriously injuring/killing someone is only a third-degree felony. Secretary of State Proposal: House committee advances plan to amend Utah Constitution so Utahns elect a secretary of state in 2028 instead of the Lt. Governor overseeing elections. Federal Election News U.S. Department of Justice sued Utah, Okl...
Take 2 Podcast: Redistricting Rulings, Prop 4 Repeal, Lawmakers Advance Tax Cuts
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & John Dougall, Former State Auditor Judge’s Ruling in Redistricting cases Federal District Court Utah Supreme Court UFRG and Utah GOP surpass expectations, turn in 200K + signatures Current verified signatures 117,114 HB 575, Fuel Tax and Supply Amendments, Rep. Cal Roberts, R-Salt Lake New Gas Tax bill reduces rate by 6 cents a gallon, a 15.8% savings – well below below original 20 Cents a gallon Presser expected Monday: State Leaders to Announce Major Oil and Gas Supply, Water, and Refining Agreements HB 587, Income Tax Amendments, Rep. Steve Eliason, R-Salt Lake The bill reduces both the corporate and individual income tax rates from 4.5% to 4.45%. Immigration HB 88, Public Assistance Amendments, Rep. Trevor Lee, R-Davis Would prohibit undocumented immigrants from accessing state- and local-funded programs: nonemergency medical health care, local- or state-administered health care or health insurance, housing assistance, food assistance, cash benefits, tuition assistance. The bill also allows the public to sue state employees who intentionally ignore the law's requirement to present proof of lawful status to access certain services. HB 294, Employer Verification Amendments, Rep Tiara Auxier, R-Morgan Would require companies with 100 or more workers to use E-Verify (or similar programs) when hiring employees. Current law applies to companies with 150 or more workers. US conducts first air transport of nuclear microreactor in bid to show technology's viability Arrived at Hill Air Force Base via three Air Force C-17s, then transported to Utah San Rafael Energy Lab in Emery County. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: US House approves SAVE America Act as GOP makes election bill push
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Curt Bramble, former Utah state senator Happy Valentine’s Day. We’re halfway through the session, it’s Presidents' Day weekend, and it’s the anniversary of Utah women’s right to vote. U.S. House approves the SAVE America Act as GOP makes election bill push Utah Reps. Kennedy, Moore, Maloy, and Owens all voted in favor. Sen. Mike Lee has 49 votes so far in the Senate. UTAH LEGISLATURE Utah lawmaker proposes HB 392, Unlicensed Driver Amendments, heads to the Senate. As described by HB 136 sponsor Rep. Matt MacPherson, R-West Valley City, the bill is aimed at addressing the rising number of crashes caused by unlicensed drivers. Utah wants to remove marriage tax penalties. New bill would limit tax credits for unmarried individuals in an attempt to incentivize marriage. Tax penalties present an obstacle to married households, which threatens the best foundation for kids to have good life outcomes, according to Rep. Melissa Ballard, R-North Salt Lake. Should Utah third graders struggling with reading be held back a year? ‘Constitutional court’ three-judge panel bill takes on new amendments. Utah’s digital ID program, “digital bill of rights,” could lead the nation in privacy framework. Utah forces Chinese company to sell motorsports park in Tooele County. SIGNATURE GATHERING WINS AND LOSSES • Ben McAdams says he is the first to get the needed 7,000 signatures to make it on the ballot. • Prop 4 repeal signature gathering in 11th hour. Signatures must be turned in by Sunday, Feb. 15. • Salt Lake County tax referendum fails. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Everything you need to know as Democrats, Republicans use every legal avenue in Utah's redistricting fight
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair NEW FEDERAL REDISTRICTING LAWSUIT A new federal lawsuit has been filed by Congressmen Burgess Owens and Celeste Maloy, along with other elected officials, challenging Utah’s redistricting process. “Today we took action. I, along with elected officials throughout our state, filed a federal lawsuit to defend the constitutional process by which Utah chooses its representatives. We can’t just sit idly by as our representative government is weakened. This lawsuit exists to restore proper constitutional balance.” — Rep. Celeste Maloy More information on the case: Powers-Gardner v. Henderson Related developments with the lawsuit filed with the Utah Supreme Court: Utah Legislature asks the Utah Supreme Court to stay the redistricting ruling Utah County Clerk requests to join the case PROP 4 REPEAL: FINAL DAYS 9 days remain in the Proposition 4 repeal signature-gathering effort, which officially ends Sunday, February 15. Signatures currently verified and submitted to the Lieutenant Governor’s Office: 52% Is a large final submission still coming? Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson offers insight Growing controversy surrounding the effort, including accusations of assaults on signature gatherers and complaints from voters who say they did not understand what they were signing SIGNATURE GATHERING CONTROVERSY Better Boundaries announces a targeted signature removal campaign following reports of deceptive signature-gathering practices related to the repeal of Utah’s anti-gerrymandering law. Better Boundaries says voters were misled by signature gatherers- our Take 2 guests argue this isn’t really an argument Utah County Attorney confirms a criminal investigation into potential signature-gathering fraud Utah County Clerk Aaron Davidson flagged approximately 300 signatures SAVE AMERICA ACT The U.S. House is expected to vote next week on Sen. Mike Lee’s SAVE America Act, introduced wit...
Take 2 Podcast: Legislative Session Day
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz; Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Tax Cuts & Budget Cuts Utah lawmakers advanced SB60, the proposed cut would reduce tax rates from 4.5% to 4.45% Opponents argue that the reduction could be better allocated amid a projected $300 million revenue loss Utah Majority Family-focused legislation The House Majority Caucus has made cost-of-living and strong families a priority for this session Utah Gas Prices Currently, Utah has a $0.385 tax rate per gallon for motor fuel sold at gas pumps in the state, but has an exemption for fuel exported out of state. A draft bill is still in the works that would reassess the state’s gas tax structure Refineries produce up to 220,000 barrels a day, but about 75,000 of those are shipped out of state to meet demand elsewhere in the West, pushing our prices higher here at home. As of late January 2026, Utah's average gas prices for regular unleaded are around $2.68 per gallon Idaho Legislature is fighting Mad over Utah Legislations Idaho House speaker calls Utah House Speaker's plan “Bull manure”, and Speaker Schultz had some choice words in return https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2026/legislation/HJM012.pdf Sentencing Commission The Speaker is sponsoring HB 274 to reconfigure the sentencing commission. HB274, sponsored by House Speaker Mike Schultz, R-Hooper, would change the makeup of the Utah Sentencing Commission by removing all defense lawyers from the commission and replacing them with more members from law enforcement. The Bar said it “strongly” opposes the bill because it “politicizes” the commission by restructuring it in a way that “favors law enforcement and partisan viewpoints.” https://le.utah.gov/~2026/bills/static/HB0274.html Utah won a $30 million bid for US Magnesium’s land, water rights, and mining agreements on Tuesday as part of a wider strategy to refill the shrinking Great Salt Lake Utah purchased US Magnesium’s land, wa...
Take 2 Podcast: Governor Spencer Cox delivers State of the State address
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Nic Dunn, Sutherland Institute Governor Spencer Cox — State of the State Polling: Deseret News / Hinckley Institute One-third of Utah voters say affordable housing should be the Legislature’s top priority. Housing ranked twice as high as any other issue across all partisan and age groups. Utah Legislature's approval rating sits at 47% overall Possible ICE Detention Center in Salt Lake County West-side Salt Lake City warehouse rumored as potential site Local city and county leaders appeared caught off guard, despite ICE’s two-year search for detention space statewide Legislative Session Updates Utah Senate votes to expand the Utah Supreme Court from five to seven justices Sen. Nate Blouin’s ICE opt-out bill declared dead on arrival, killed in committee Bills to watch heading into Friday’s legislative deadline BLM Approves Updated Northern Corridor Highway Plan Federal approval clears the way after years of debate and environmental review Senator Mike Lee's Social Media Post Makes Headlines Reaction and political fallout discussed Prop. 4 Repeal Effort Scott Presler returns to Utah for a second weekend of signature gathering to repeal Proposition 4 Coming Up Next Week Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz joins Take 2 Podcast See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: MLK Day of Service highlights as the Utah legislative session begins
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Take 2 Podcast 1/19/26 Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: State Sen. Jen Plumb, MD, State Rep. Ryan Wilcox MLK Day of Service highlights as the Utah legislative session begins Lawmakers kick off the session with a blood drive Minnesota facing growing tension amid an ICE surge Sen. Nate Blouin introduces a bill to block ICE from entering churches and hospitals and to ban agents from wearing masks Utah ICE detention center has been in planning for nearly two years, dating back to the Biden administration Trump’s “one big, beautiful bill” and tightening budgets loom over legislative sessions across the West, reporting from Brigham Tomco Utah State School Board asked to cut $300 million, about 5% of its budget Bill filed to expand Utah Supreme Court justices from five to seven U.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on state bans of transgender athletes in girls’ sports Conservative organizer Scott Presler in Utah gathering signatures to repeal Proposition 4 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: 8 people shot, 2 killed outside Salt Lake meetinghouse
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Take 2 Podcast — Friday, Jan. 9, 2026 Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; John Dougall, Former State Auditor Happy New Year and America’s 250th anniversary year. 8 people shot, 2 killed outside LDS church in Salt Lake City neighborhood Nationwide protests after fatal ICE agent shooting in Minneapolis Newly elected municipal leaders sworn in Utah Political Updates Filing deadlines and races The filing deadline has come and gone. Rob Bishop is running for a seat after Utah Rep. Matthew Gwynn announced he will not seek re-election. Former Provo Mayor Kaufusi is running for county commission. GOP Rep. Trevor Lee faces a challenge from Davis County Commissioner Bob Stevenson in House District 16. Three Republican candidates have filed to challenge Utah Senate President Stuart Adams in Senate District 7. Sen. Dan McCay announced his re-election bid while Rep. Doug Fiefia filed to challenge him. Sen. Nate Blouin is running for Congress. Four Democrats have filed: Richard T. Whitney, Silvia Caten, Evan Done and Taylor J. Paden, with Colin Smith also in the mix. County clerk challenge in Utah County: incumbent Aaron Davidson vs. newcomer Corey Astille. Legal & Legislative The Utah Legislature filed a notice to appeal Utah’s redistricting case with the Utah Supreme Court, seeking to keep the old maps in place. Congressional filing deadline is March. Another Democrat joined the congressional race, bringing the total to 10 listed on Ballotpedia, with Liban Mohamed as number 10. A state school board member announced she won’t seek re-election, citing what she called a “corrupt” system. GOP priorities for the legislative session include a bill to ban cell phone use in schools from bell to bell. National & International ICE fatal shooting in Minnesota has led to nationwide protests, including in Salt Lake City. Nicolas Maduro captured (mention/source not verified in these notes — check if needed). Iran protests and internet shutdow...
Take 2: Prop 4 signatures move forward as tax referendum faces tight deadline
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HOST: Heidi Hatch GUESTS: Maura Carabello Exoro Group, Rep Ryan Wilcox Prop 4 is moving closer to the ballot as organizers report tens of thousands of signatures submitted to county clerks, even as another major policy fight begins to take shape. A newly filed effort to challenge Salt Lake County’s tax increase is now racing against a tight signature-gathering deadline, adding urgency to an already crowded political landscape. At the same time, unresolved court questions surrounding Prop 4 are keeping key decisions in limbo. Did you catch the Variety White House Expose? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-susie-wiles-interview-exclusive-part-1?srsltid=AfmBOopKq4pM-ka2qo47Cc-_KgQd8ZemDcDLj8JIfkSPGgD6Yg2yglP7 Salt Lake County Tax Referendum Goud Maragani and others applied for the referendum on Monday, which if approved by clerk's office, gives them a chance to put the increase on next year's ballot. They would need to get about 45,000 handwritten signatures in 45 days. They are using volunteers. Prop 4 Signature Gathering Rob Axson Utah GOP Chair reports an estimated 75k valid signatures gathered – first signatures turned in a week ago to county clerks. Few Hundred paid gatherers- majority local Utah hires Latest on Prop 4 Case appeal In new court filings, the legislature is asking Third District Judge Dianna Gibson to issue a final judgment in the case so they can appeal it to the Utah Supreme Court, which the plaintiffs and Gibson say she can’t do yet because of unresolved claims. 3 Governors Take the Stage together 3 Utah governors say the country ‘desperately needs more of Utah’ ... in the White House? https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/3-utah-governors-country-desperately-030000599.html Bridger Bolinder A leader in Utah’s House Republican caucus says he will not seek reelection next year, citing other commitments and responsibilities that require his attention. House Majority Assistant Whip Bridger Bolinder, R-Grantsville, announc...
Take 2 Podcast: Salt Lake Co. approves property tax increase, Gov. Cox signs 3 bills
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Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Nic Dunn, VP of Strategy, Sutherland Institute Salt Lake County Approves Property Tax Increase The Salt Lake County Council voted Tuesday night to approve a property tax increase of around 14%, lower than the originally proposed increase of nearly 20%. Special Session: Gov. Cox Signs 3 Bills Repeals the new law that stripped power from public labor unions Changes the filing deadlines for Utah’s 2026 congressional races Clarifies the exclusive and original appellate jurisdiction of the Utah Supreme Court Legislative Audits: District Attorney, Police and Criminal Justice System Salt Lake County District Attorney Audit Salt Lake City Police Department Audit Welfare Reform Nic Dunn returns from meetings in Washington, D.C. Work disincentives built into the current system Utah as a national leader due to: Health Care: Dueling Senate Bills Fail As the deadline approaches for expiring enhanced ACA subsidies, the Senate rejected: University of Utah Athletics: Private Equity Deal University of Utah unveils plan for a private equity partnership Otro Capital would become a minority owner in Utah Brands & Entertainment NCAA President warns schools to use caution with new forms of athletic equity financing Public Lands Group Files Lawsuit Over New National Parks Pass Featuring Former President Donald Trump See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah GOP fuels repeal push with millions as redistricting fight intensifies
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Utah GOP has raised over $4 million to repeal Proposition 4. The money is being donated by 501(c)(4) out of MA Signatures gathered- Rob Axson Utah GOP Chair reports healthy pace (tens of thousands) and growing momentum. None turned in yet. Utah GOP filed for a stay, no ruling yet Sutherland Institute Survey: Utah voters think elected officials, not judges, should choose congressional maps https://sutherlandinstitute.org/utah-redisticting-survey/ Do voters agree or disagree with the court-driven process produced by proponents of Proposition 4? Sutherland Institute recently commissioned Y2 Analytics to conduct a survey of Utah voters to investigate this question. By a 63-point margin, Utah voters believe that the policymakers they elect should be making redistricting decisions over judges. A full 71% of Utah voters say that an elected body or elected official at the state or county levels ought to have primary responsibility to decide congressional maps, compared to 8% who say judges should be primarily responsible. A plurality of Utah voters say that a body elected by the people (e.g., the Utah Legislature or county council) should be making redistricting decisions, while 21% of voters say it should be a state-level elected official (e.g., the governor), and 15% say it should be a county-level elected official (e,g., a county mayor). 5 Democratic Candidates in the D1 2025 Race State Sen. Nate Blouin announced his candidacy Nov. 24- now backed by Bernie Newcomer Luis Villarreal entered the race 1st in Sen. Kathleen Riebe Former congressman Ben McAdams Former state Sen. Derek Kitchen. REP. VERONA MAUGA looking to pass gun law change in upcoming session after shooting of Afa Ah Loo at No Kings Protest Drafting bill to keep long guns off the streets during protests Manslaughter charges filed this week against the “peace keeper” Cox proposes $30.7B budget with funding for homeless campus, child tax credits Gov. Spencer...
Take 2 Podcast: No map appeal, shift left, Epstein files, Utah birthrate
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Heidi Hatch | Maura Carabello, Exoro Group | Curt Bramble, former state senator • Speaker Mike Schultz on redistricting ruling Says Judge Gibson’s late decision blocked any chance for an emergency appeal; calls timing “wrong” and says it cut the Legislature out of the court process. • Rep. Burgess Owens letter Accuses judge of overstepping and “imposing an outcome never chosen by the people.” • Redistricting history with Curt Bramble Utah missed a fourth seat by 856 people after the 2000 Census; Bramble helped draw the first four-district map. • New map creates a safe blue district Republicans now competing for three GOP seats; questions around whether 74-year-old Owens will retire. • Candidates for Utah’s new Democratic district Derek Kitchen joins Ben McAdams and Kathleen Riebe. Others considering: Caroline Gleich, Kael Weston, Nate Blouin. • Trump backs release of Epstein files Bill requires AG to release unclassified DOJ records within 30 days, including names of officials and entities tied to Epstein. • Utah birthrate continues to fall Most counties still above replacement level, but two-thirds saw declines; shifts peak childbearing to ages 25–29. • Juvenile aggravated murder bill Would allow judges to send offenders convicted as adults directly to prison instead of secure care. • Brigham City nuclear project $750M investment under Gov. Cox’s “Operation Gigawatt,” creating Utah’s first full-scale nuclear ecosystem. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Late-Night Ruling, Utah’s New Blue District, and the End of the Shutdown
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KUTV TAKE 2 PODCAST Nov 14, 2025 Late-Night Ruling, Utah’s New Blue District, and the End of the Shutdown Guests: Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair | Rep. Doug Owens New Maps: Judge Gibson throws out Map C and approves Map 1 — minutes before the deadline. Blue District: New 1st District leans D+14, putting a GOP-held seat in play. Appeal Uncertain: Cox supports appealing, but none filed yet. Prop 4 Fight: GOP ballot initiative to repeal the independent redistricting law underway UFRG.org Who Draws the Lines? Debate over legislative authority vs. judicial oversight. Democrats Jump In: McAdams running; Riebe challenging; Blouin a possible contender. Impeachment Talk: Rep. MacPherson drafting a bill to impeach the judge. Shutdown Ends: Trump signs funding bill; agencies reopen; ACA tax credits could spark the next battle. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Utah municipal Elections, Shutdown Fallout, and National Shifts
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Take 2 Podcast – Friday, Nov. 7 | 2:30 p.m. Heidi Hatch with South Jordan Mayor Dawn Ramsey & Exoro Group’s Maura Carabello Utah Primaries Turnout: 30% statewide (Piute 63%, Salt Lake 23%) Tight mayoral races across the Wasatch Front Utah County incumbents trailing Provo Mayor concedes Cottonwood Heights: Mike Weichers concedes to Gay Lynn Bennion (57%-42%) Salt Lake City Council unchanged Southern Utah new Mayors Government Shutdown FAA cutting flights 10%, Salt Lake Intl. among 40 airports hit Judge orders Trump to fund SNAP; Utah missed first payments Nov. 6 Utah Senate Democrats push to cover SNAP benefits Politics & Redistricting Utah’s new congressional map expected next week Ben McAdams likely to announce run after approval Utah GOP holding hearings on redistricting repeal (Nov. 3 & 10) Davis County Taxes Property tax hike trimmed from 30% to 15% Salt Lake County Council GOP members vote to cut childcare at rec centers and senior center to cut budget National Election 2025 Democrats sweep key races in NY, VA, NJ Moderates win VA & NJ governorships Socialist Zohran Mamdani wins NYC mayor race over Andrew Cuomo California voters approve Prop 50, allowing new redistricting Young voters, women key blocks heading into 2026 midterms See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Day 29 of shutdown: SNAP funding ends, ACA Subsidy Fight, Utah Faces Tax Hikes
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Utah faces mounting strain as the government shutdown hits day 29 — SNAP funding runs out, tax hikes loom, and homelessness policy shifts under new leadership. We break down the political standoff, the stakes for Utah families, and how state and local leaders are responding. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Sen. John Curtis shares why he believes stalemate was 'pre-determined'
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On day 22 of the government shutdown, Utah Sen. John Curtis sat down with Heidi Hatch to share why he believes the stalemate was “pre-determined,” driven by partisan politics. Before the interview, Curtis voted for the 12th time to reopen the government with a continuing resolution that failed 54-46, falling short of the 60 votes needed to advance. Three Democrats voted with Republicans, but no additional Democrats crossed the aisle. At 22 days, the shutdown is now the second-longest funding lapse in modern history, surpassed only by the 35-day shutdown in late 2018 and early 2019. Curtis said a short-term continuing resolution may be necessary to get the government reopened, but it’s not a long-term solution. “It doesn’t make sense to keep the government closed when the very people we’re trying to help with high premiums are also the ones losing SNAP benefits,” he said. He noted that since 1974, Congress has only passed a budget on time four times, often relying on continuing resolutions or shutdowns that end in massive omnibus spending bills. Curtis is pushing a new approach modeled after Utah’s baseline budget system, where prior-year funding automatically carries over until new appropriations are passed. “Instead of a shutdown, an omnibus, or a CR, we’d simply stay on the previous appropriation,” he said, calling it a plan that promotes fiscal responsibility. Still, Curtis said Washington has grown accustomed to crisis politics. “Both Republicans and Democrats are part of the problem,” he said. “It’s a fair accusation.” While he said he understands the frustration of families facing higher health premiums, Curtis believes tying those costs to shutdown negotiations is inappropriate. On federal subsidies, he added, “People like free things once we give them free things. It’s near impossible to undo that. Do people at 400% of poverty really need zero premium? Maybe they need some help, but certainly not zero premium — and yet, how do you take that back?” As the Sen...
Take 2 Podcast: How to take 'heated' out of rivalry game, Utah politics
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Take 2 Podcast – October 16, 2025 Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz and Rep. Doug Owens Episode Rundown: Holy War Weekend: BYU and Utah face off again, but let’s keep the rivalry friendly — not a real war. Politics and Polarization: Noble Analytics polling shows rising concern about political violence. Is that tension spilling over into sports and daily life? Prop 4 Battle: The Utah GOP moves to overturn the voter-approved independent redistricting measure, reigniting debate over fair maps and political power. Judicial Appointments: The public comment period opens for Utah’s newest judicial nominee. Government Shutdown: The standoff drags on in Washington as healthcare subsidies remain the sticking point. Middle East Update: President Trump returns from a historic peace deal signing in Israel. Utah Legislature: Lawmakers discuss new funding for career and technical education programs. Gas Prices: A proposed tax exemption change could save Utah drivers 10 to 20 cents a gallon. 🎧 Stream the full episode wherever you get your podcasts. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2: Israel-Hamas peace deal moves forward, day 9 of government shutdown
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Take 2 Podcast – October 9, 2025 Hosts: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group; Trent Staggs, Riverton Mayor and Small Business Administrator _____ ISRAEL–HAMAS PEACE DEAL MOVES FORWARD President Donald Trump announced that Israel and Hamas have agreed on the first phase of a peace framework that would allow for the swift release of all hostages. Still missing from the plan are key details on Hamas’s disarmament and who will govern Gaza once the deal moves ahead. Those issues are expected to be part of later negotiations. _____ GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN – DAY 9 The federal government shutdown has entered its ninth day, with Affordable Care Act subsidies still a sticking point for Democrats. Republicans have centered their messaging around health care for migrants, pushing for limits on taxpayer-funded benefits. In Utah, undocumented migrants can access emergency medical care, and some coverage is available for children. _____ NEW NUMBERS – UTAH RANKS 3RD IN MIGRANT ARRIVALS Salt Lake City is now one of the nation’s fastest-growing destinations for migrants, according to new data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Between May 2023 and January 2025, nearly 2.5 million migrants who entered the U.S. — either illegally or through legal protection under the CBP One app — reported where they planned to live. Miami led with 2,191 arrivals per 100,000 residents, followed by Fort Myers, Florida, at 1,782. Salt Lake City ranked third with 1,685, just ahead of Denver and New York. AP Source _____ NEW ICE DIRECTOR – AGREEMENTS WITH UTAH CITIES AND COUNTIES The new ICE director is expanding partnerships with Utah law enforcement under three models: Task Force Model – Local officers working directly with federal agents. Jail Enforcement Model – ICE cooperation within county jails. Warrant Service Officer Model – Deputized officers allowed to serve immigration-related warrants. _____ UTAH SPECIAL SESSION Lawmakers passed and the governor signed Map C, the new congress...
Take 2 Podcast: President Nelson, Grand Blanc shooting, Turning Point USA continues tour
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Hosts: Heidi Hatch, Scott Howell (former Utah Senate Minority Leader), John Dougal, Esq. Note: Scott Howell joined late after being held up in a meeting at the State Capitol. Topics This Week: The death of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints President Russell M. Nelson, with President Dallin H. Oaks next in line. Will a change in leadership shape Utah policy, and has it in the past? The church responds to injuries and a death following a shooting and fire at the Grand Blanc meetinghouse. Turning Point USA continues its campus tour with a stop at Utah State University, just three weeks after the death of Charlie Kirk. Day two of the government shutdown, including discussion around the Department of Defense and war meetings. Utah redistricting maps gain backing from both parties. Sen. Dan McCay says he will not run for re-election if his wife wins the Riverton mayoral race. Opinions Featured: Free speech belongs to all Americans — not just to Charlie Kirk by Scott Howell Read here Lessons from Middle Earth — the danger of unchecked power by John Dougal Read here Coming Up: Riverton Mayor Trent Staggs joins next week Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz on Oct. 16 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Redistricting new maps, Great Salt Lake woes, Charlie Kirk memorial
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Take 2 Podcast Thursday, Sept. 25, 2025 Guests: Heidi Hatch, Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Sen. Daniel McCay Redistricting New Maps Public comment period runs for 10 days, through Oct. 5 Feedback can be submitted at redistricting.utah.gov Special session scheduled for Oct. 6 to vote on the new map Final maps will be submitted to the courts for approval Great Salt Lake Water Woes Gov. Spencer Cox launches GSL 2034, a public-private charter urging all Utahns to help restore the lake Comes with a $200 million pledge, half already committed by Ducks Unlimited over 10 years New philanthropic coalition Great Salt Lake Rising aims to raise an additional $100 million within a year, led by Josh Romney Cox wants lake elevation back to 4,198 feet by the 2034 Winter Olympics (currently at 4,191 feet) Charlie Kirk Monument at UVU Petition supporting memorial: 20,000 signatures Petition opposing memorial: 13,000 signatures UVU announced creation of a Memorial Committee, co-chaired by Scott M. Smith (UVU Board of Trustees, Qualtrics co-founder) and Amanda Covington (Utah Board of Higher Education chair) Committee will include students, political leaders, and other stakeholders USU Turning Point Event – Tuesday, Sept. 30 Featured guests: Gov. Spencer Cox, Sen. Mike Lee, Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz Some surprise at Cox’s participation after past criticism from Charlie Kirk in 2022 Still unclear if the format will be a panel or Q&A Sutherland Institute Transition Rick Larsen to step down as CEO on Jan. 1, 2026, and become president emeritus One Week Out from Possible Government Shutdown Federal government faces shutdown if Congress fails to pass spending bill by Oct. 1 Republicans and Democrats remain divided, particularly over extending enhanced ACA premium subsidies See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad...
Take 2 Podcast: Politics, fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination
1 hr 1 min
Hosted by Heidi Hatch with guests Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group and Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson On this week’s Take 2 Podcast, we look at the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk on the campus of Utah Valley University in Orem. Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson, a friend of Kirk, and Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group join the discussion on the political and emotional fallout one week later. Topics this week: Charlie Kirk assassination at UVU George Zinn, known in political circles, diverted police attention and was arrested on child pornography charges 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, the accused shooter, faces the death penalty Utah released Robinson’s mugshot despite state law prohibiting it A Pennsylvania man was arrested in Utah after posting an online threat against UVU Debate over university security and whether DPS or local law enforcement should step in Businesses and universities firing employees over online comments after the assassination Utah’s special session pushed back to Oct. 6 Utah Legislature releases list of lawmakers who will oversee redistricting Two weeks until Congress faces its budget deadline See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast: Salt Lake prepares for new homeless campus & Redistricting
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Take 2 Podcast September 4, 2025 Hosts: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Liddy Huntsman (Salt Lake City Council Candidate, District 3) Episode Rundown: New 1,300-bed homeless services campus Opening in 2027 on a 16-acre parcel at 2520 North and 2200 West off I-215 in Salt Lake City Room to expand to 40 acres for a 50–100 year plan Core services: recovery, employment, housing and criminal justice assistance Annual operations expected to cost more than $30 million $75 million needed for infrastructure, excluding land purchase Homelessness in Utah up 18% Children experiencing homelessness increased 12% (589 to 662) Seniors rose 42% (251 to 356) Veterans increased 36% (121 to 165) More than 10,000 Utahns experienced homelessness for the first time in 2024, a 5% rise Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall called the report a “battle cry” for the Legislature to provide more funding Redistricting and the 2026 midterms Judge Dianna Gibson ruled current congressional maps unconstitutional and denied lawmakers’ request to pause her order Ruling restores the intent of Proposition 4, the independent redistricting commission voters approved in 2018 Utah Republican Party Chairman Robert Axson called the decision “judicial activism” Congress back in session Epstein victims pressed lawmakers to release the full Justice Department investigation files Looming Sept. 30 deadline for government funding raises threat of a shutdown A stopgap bill is likely, but Republicans need Democratic votes and Democrats are expected to push for concessions See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take 2 Podcast Returns from Summer Break
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HOST: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello Exoro Group and John Dougal Former State Auditor Utah’s Death Penalty Front and Center: Friday – Accused Tremonton Shooter makes 1st court appearance with face death penalty after shooting and killing 2 Tremonton Officers Utah Supreme Court heard last Ralph Menzies Appeal – Menzies is scheduled to die September 5th just after midnight Firing Squad Execution after 38 years of appeals -Sentenced to die by firing squad for the 1986 kidnapping and murder of 26-year-old Maurine Hunsaker Should Utah keep the death penalty when cases drag on for decades Texas House approves new GOP congressional maps after 2-week delay This comes after Utah Dems Join Texas Dems protesting redistricting at Legislative conference https://kutv.com/news/local/utah-democrats-join-texas-lawmakers-in-redistricting-protest Utah awaits state Court ruling on Utah redistricting fight Newsom Signs California Redistricting Plan to Counter Texas Republicans Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic state lawmakers moved quickly to create new districts that could help their party flip five congressional seats. Their plan still requires voter approval. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/21/us/politics/california-newsom-redistricting-texas.html Calls for Utah Senate President to Resign for personal influence over sexual assault bill passed in 2024 Calls for change, but what change Should legislators disclose or not to disclose reason for backing and running bills https://kutv.com/news/politics/governor-spencer-cox-defends-senate-president-adams-amid-calls-for-resignation# Trump to Sign Mail-in Ballots Executive Order Mike Lee backs the idea “As President Trump has made clear, it’s time to end mail-in voting Utah should lead the way on this Other states will follow” https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1957913877494288666 Utah Primary Municipal Election HB300 unintended consequences signatures and ID digits DC is now under Fed...
Take 2 Podcast: From Wildfires to Work Visas: Land used to Labor Unions - What Utah's Watching
1 hr 5 min
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