Believe in the Run

The Drop

A Running and Sports podcast Explicit

About the show

A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.

Newest episodes

491 | Baltimore Bandits, Broken Bones, 361 Degrees Drops a Stunner

Nov 13, 2026 1 hr 28 min

Meg catch a flat in her Alphafly 4, Thomas almost catches a real-life stray, Robbe catches an emergency room bill, and 361 Degrees catches fire with a shoe that could be a contender for shoe of the year: the Mega 3 Pro. Also, how is there not a Nerds Gummy Cluster flavor of Gu?? It's 2026, come on. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! SAYSKY Our newest sponsor, Saysky, has been making technical running gear out of Copenhagen since 2013. Clean cuts, simple designs, sizing that's on point, and just about everything you need as a runner. Robbe is already living in the new fall kit. Get 15% off with code DROP15: https://saysky.com PILLAR PERFORMANCE Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and honestly, it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. What really sets PILLAR apart from other micronutrition we’ve tried is that the results feel tangible and measurable. For runners who care about the data but also just want to feel better day to day, PILLAR Triple Magnesium has become a really easy win in our routine. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

E054 | The Dirt Division - Trail Shoe Trends in 2026, Wipeouts, and the NNormal Cadi (ft. Seth LaReau, Trail Waves)

Nov 11, 2026 1 hr 58 min

The Dirt Division highlights a handful of trends in trail running footwear this year and gives their opinions on whether they love it or could do without it. Along the way, they do a little bit of forecasting, talk about a wide range of options, and end with a little bit of nonsense.... naturally. GUEST: Seth LaReau is the writer behind the Trail Waves Substack. He approaches the trail space with a unique analytical mind, creativity, and passion. Taylor and Seth discuss his motivation for this output and higlight some of his current/past work.

We Interviewed Timm Chiusano | 490

Nov 9, 2026 32 min

We sat down with Timm Chiusano at the New Balance Run House to talk about his new book, How to Get Addicted to Appreciation. Timm spent 25 years in corporate America, then found an audience making "growing up less scary" on TikTok, and his wife tricked him into his first marathon. We cover burnout, Rolling Stone, the run that taught him "this is just a phase," and his plan to hand out 26.2 copies of the book during the NYC Marathon. Chapters 0:00 Intro 0:46 Why preorders matter for authors 3:22 Who is Timm? From corporate to TikTok 13:16 His wife tricks him into his first marathon 16:06 Rolling Stone and the White House 17:40 How running changed his perspective 24:52 What readers will get from the book 28:04 Handing out 26.2 books during the NYC Marathon

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The newest 50 of 547 episodes

491 | Baltimore Bandits, Broken Bones, 361 Degrees Drops a Stunner

Nov 13, 2026 1 hr 28 min

E054 | The Dirt Division - Trail Shoe Trends in 2026, Wipeouts, and the NNormal Cadi (ft. Seth LaReau, Trail Waves)

Nov 11, 2026 1 hr 58 min

We Interviewed Timm Chiusano | 490

Nov 9, 2026 32 min

489 | NYC Marathon Recap, N.O.R.E. Is a Type 2 Runner, Overplayed New York Songs

Nov 6, 2026 1 hr 42 min

We're back from NYC Marathon weekend, and it might've been our best one yet. Thomas and Aubrey ran it just for fun and got hyped up along the way by an NYPD officer and N.O.R.E. himself, while the Megs ran the course backwards and watched Jess McClain sprint into second. We also recap the New Balance Run House and our shakeout run (and the line around the block), and settle which New York song is the most overplayed on your reels. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! SAYSKY Our newest sponsor, Saysky, has been making technical running gear out of Copenhagen since 2013. Clean cuts, simple designs, sizing that's on point, and just about everything you need as a runner. Robbe is already living in the new fall kit. Get 15% off with code DROP15: https://saysky.com PILLAR PERFORMANCE Running day after day takes a toll on your tendons, ligaments and connective tissue. Pillar's Collagen Repair is designed to support all of it, and it's flavorless, so a scoop disappears into your morning coffee. We use it daily. Get 15% off your first purchase with code BITR: https://pillarperformance.shop or https://thefeed.com/pillar LMNT We leaned on LMNT all weekend in New York, from loading up the night before to topping off the salt on a warm race day. All LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium, and the sachets are easy to carry when a friend needs a boost. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICK We wore Swiftwick all weekend long, from the shakeout to walking the city. They're our favorite socks for running and for everything else, and they make a great holiday gift (just ask Robbe's kids). Save 15% off your first order with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E053 | Toenails, Javelina, Iteration, More Obsessions, and Doppelgangers

Nov 4, 2026 1 hr 30 min

The Dirt Division wasn't done sharing some of their favorite items and ideas in the trail running space last week which includes books, gear, skincare, and footwear. They all share more while finding time to comment on each other's feet, habits, and relational quirks. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

488 | Nike After Dark Tour, Another Star in the Dope Show, Passing Torches

Oct 30, 2026 1 hr 17 min

Nike adopted the dark, but Meg was born in it, molded by it. She gives her report from the Los Angeles edition of the women-centric event. Elsewhere in the country, Thomas sustains an injury in South Carolina while Robbe's son beats him badly in a 5K back in Maryland. Trick or treat, indeed.Join us at our New Balance x BITR shakeout run before the New York City Marathon!📅 WHEN: Saturday, October 31 at 8AM📍 WHERE: Washington Square Park Arch🏃 WHAT: 3 mile shakeout run + light bites + giveawaysSave 15% on BITR gear through 11/2: https://shop.believeintherun.comSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believePILLARRecently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and honestly, it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. What really sets PILLAR apart from other micronutrition we’ve tried is that the results feel tangible and measurable. For runners who care about the data but also just want to feel better day to day, PILLAR Triple Magnesium has become a really easy win in our routine. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases

The Dirt Division E052 | Obsessed October, Ghosts, and Germs

Oct 28, 2026 1 hr 18 min

Ghosts and germs and goods, oh my! This episode takes a spooky turn really quick. Alex started by asking a few questions about hygiene which was, apparently, a metaphysical vortex that led the Dirt Division to a deep discussion on hauntings, residual energy, and symbolic animals. They eventually end with what running related ideas or items they are obsessed with.

487 | Jon Tappan and Jared Carver (Tracksmith)

Oct 26, 2026 55 min

In this episode, Meg and Thomas sit down with Tracksmith CEO Jared Carver and Chief Product & Merchandising Officer Jon Tappan to discuss the brand's future. The group explores Jon and Jared's transition from Converse to a performance running brand and how Tracksmith plans to balance its classic New England heritage with modern sportswear trends. They also discuss future retail expansion, navigating the current "super shoe" tech wars, and Tracksmith's community events and pop-up shop for the upcoming New York City Marathon.

486 | Baltimore Running Festival

Oct 23, 2026 1 hr 25 min

The gang recaps a chaotic but beautiful fall weekend at the Baltimore Running Festival, diving into odd race logistics and the unofficial (but definitely official) controversy over Under Armour's past involvement in the race. They also take a look at the surprisingly lucrative market of selling Boston Marathon medals on eBay, preview the Nike After Dark Half Marathon, and wrap up with conversations about AI, 80s nostalgia, and Halloween candy.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLAR PERFORMANCEWe've been taking Pillar Performance Collagen Repair almost every morning in our coffee to support the tendons, ligaments, and connective tissue that take a beating when you're running day after day. It's not a quick fix, but a way to support your body long-term so you can keep training and racing without battling little aches and pains. Enter code BITR for 50% off your first-time purchase at pillarperformance.shop.SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day and just hanging out. Whether you prefer the ankle socks or the mid-calf, there are plenty of options to keep your feet happy. Get yourself ready for your next run and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/bel...LMNTIt's cooling off, but you're still working out and sweating, which means you still need electrolytes in the winter. We are currently loving the sparkling slim cans, which deliver half of what's in a standard packet: 500 mg sodium, 100 mg potassium, and 30 mg magnesium. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Dirt Division E051 | Where the Water Was, Potty Talk, and Altra Olympus 275 Hilo (ft. Rob Gasbarro Outdoor 76)

Oct 21, 2026 2 hr 52 min

Alex returned from a week-long trek with Nnormal. She recaps the Where the Water Was project with both the challenges and triumphs. Then, the conversation takes a turn as the crew talks about bathtroom etiquite (both indoor and outdoors. The crew then finishes with their thoughts on the Altra Olypmus 275 HIlo and Olympus 7. Guest: Rob Gasbarro is a partner/co-owner of Outdoor 76, a shop in Franklin, North Carolina. He has a wealth of experience when it comes to footwear, and he has recently been sharing his knowledge on social media. Taylor and Rob talk about outdoor footwear history and how the boom of trail running has impacted the trajectory of outrdoor footwear for better and worse. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

485 | Chicago Marathon Weekend

Oct 16, 2026 1 hr 33 min

The gang gets back from Chicago, where we had a ton of fun with On at our Navy Pier shakeout run before spectating the race on Sunday morning. We had some incredible performances from Clayton Young and Vinny Mauri and so many more. Plus, we get some insider info on the whole ultrarunner to OF pipeline. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe PILLAR Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and honestly, it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. What really sets PILLAR apart from other micronutrition we’ve tried is that the results feel tangible and measurable. For runners who care about the data but also just want to feel better day to day, PILLAR Triple Magnesium has become a really easy win in our routine. If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases

The Dirt Division E050 | Developing Running Shoes, Misadventures, Nnormal Kjerag 2.0

Oct 14, 2026 1 hr 59 min

While Alex is out running around the Great Salt Lake, Taylor and Johnny get all nerdy by discussing pretty much every single detail of a running shoe and its importance to performance. They discuss the key differences between trail and road shoe development. Prior to that, they also talk about their weeks and misadventures they experienced.

Charlie Sweeney, 2:09 Marathoner | 484

Oct 12, 2026 1 hr 11 min

Charlie Sweeney was the first American across the line at the 2026 Berlin Marathon, running 2:09. Thomas and Meg talk with him about the race, switching coaches after Boston, his race-day fueling and his road from Maryland high school football to CU Boulder. He also works at COROS, so if you've ever DM'd them, you've probably talked to Charlie. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:50 COROS athlete or COROS employee? 3:55 Charlie's dream COROS watch 5:50 Running COROS social media and answering your DMs 10:45 Growing up in Maryland 13:24 From football and basketball to running 20:41 College: Western Colorado and D2 All-American 24:15 Transferring to CU Boulder 26:54 The Boulder running community 31:59 The dream of a big sponsorship 33:54 Is Nike still the top deal? 37:27 Dating a Nike pro (and her prototypes) 41:50 Why the ASICS Metaspeed Sky Tokyo 42:37 How many miles before racing in a super shoe 44:44 The Berlin build: a new coach after Boston 51:19 Race-day fueling: Maurten, SiS and sodium 53:21 Nomio 55:46 Berlin race day 58:34 The pace car playing '90s rock 62:45 Getting caught by Tigst Assefa's pack 68:34 What's next: Houston Half and a spring marathon

483 | Asics Gel Slowcush, Nike Apex, Taco Bell 50K

Oct 9, 2026 1 hr 24 min

Russia has a plague problem, New York has a cheer zone problem, and Thomas apparently has no problem eating his way through ten Taco Bells in 11 hours. This week Thomas, Meg, Robbe and Karl get into NYRR’s new rules for run club cheer zones (RIP confetti cannons), the run club that cleared $640K in a year, Altra’s Legacy Team of runners aged 75 to 85, and Skechers’ new Aero Elite race shoe (machine washable, naturally). Thomas also shares his first impressions of the Nike Apex and SwooshFly, and we put the Asics Gel Slowcush and the Mizuno Sky Prime on the scale to settle which $200 recovery shoe is worth it. Plus, Meg announces LA 100 2.0, and Robbe’s son takes 2nd place in his first cross country race. We’ll see you in Chicago! BELIEVE IN THE RUN CHICAGO SHAKEOUT What: Shakeout run with live music from Hollyy, co-hosted with On and Fleet Feet Chicago. Demo On’s LightSpray before race day, and the first 150 runners get a limited-edition BITR x On cap. When: Saturday, October 10 @ 8:30 a.m. (we’ll be there at 7:30, and hats go fast) Where: Navy Pier, Chicago, IL Cost: FREE https://www.marathon-weekend.com/chicago/2026/events/believe-in-the-run-x-on-shakeout-run LA 100 2.0 Meg and Meghann are taking 100 women to the LA Marathon again, with a race bib, coaching, nutrition guidance and a VIP race weekend. Applications are open until October 11: https://la100.run/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! SWIFTWICK Your feet are sweating with all those workouts, so treat them with the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you’re an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or...

The Dirt Division E049 | Trail Racing Shoes, Seasons Changingft. Dakota Jones and Brianna Corremonte

Oct 7, 2026 2 hr 8 min

Johnny and Alex help Taylor sort out his thoughts and decisions after a successful trail season. Does he push forward with more racing or does he settle in for winter to work on goals for next year? Then, they chat about the new Veja Harpie, a simple trail shoe with a sustainable focus. Of course, there’s a mix of story telling and nonsense in the mix too.Guest: Dakota and Brianna prepare for two monumental tasks: 1. Running around the Great Salt Lake and 2. Raise awareness for changing climate and living conditions in the area. Alex talks about logistics, motivation, and more about the event starting on October 13.

482 | Berlin Marathon & Adidas HQ Recap

Oct 2, 2026 1 hr 49 min

Thomas and Karl went big in Berlin, running a marathon around the city on a warm race morning. Before that, they swung by the Adidas HQ to look at some wild innovations and cutting edge technologies coming from the brand. Also, they led hundreds of runners through a shakeout run on Saturday, the biggest event on race weekend outside of the marathon. Needless to say, it was busy. Needless to say, they are tired. But they're still standing (in their Adios Pro 5). SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

The Dirt Division E048 | Inov8 Trailfly Pro ft. Dirt Division Reviewer Johnny Dodgin

Sep 30, 2026 1 hr 38 min

Alex and Taylor are joined by long time friend of the show and now Dirt Division reviewer, Johnny Dodgin! He has an extensive background in endurance sport, marketing, product development, and art that make him a prime example of a gear nerd. Among many other topics, they discuss the Inov8 Trailfly Pro that Johnny had a major role in bringing to life.

481 | Nike Alphafly 4, Adidas Adios Pro 5, Guardian Caps

Sep 25, 2026 1 hr 23 min

We have some big shoes in today to talk about (with a couple of side quests on the NFL's guardian caps and Instagram Plus). In today's episode, the Nike Alphafly 4 and Adidas Adios Pro 5 take the stage. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICKYour feet are sweating with all those workouts, so treat them with the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E047 | Running Belts, Social Avoidance, Kiprun Kipsummit Race (ft. Tina Muir)

Sep 23, 2026 2 hr 14 min

Running belts have taken a huge lap in performance over the last few years. Taylor and Alex give a rundown on which ones they like, the different offerings, and why you just might want to grab a belt over a pack. They also chat about a suprise race day shoe, the Kiprun Kipsummit Race. Guest: Tina Muir is an athlete and environtmental advocated in the running space. She wears a lot more hats than that, even! Tina and Taylor talk about their experience at UTMB that includes concerns, promising measures, and ideas for the future. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

480 | Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker (Miler Running)

Sep 21, 2026 46 min

Thomas sat down with the folks at Miler (Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker) to talk life, business, and their latest venture: the Metropolitan Trail Racing team. The team made their debut this past weekend at Grindstone by UTMB, and it was a strong showing right out of the gate. In the 21K, Bit Klecker took first for the women, Grant finished 2nd and Drew 7th on the men's side, and in the 50K Ben crossed in 22nd while working back from an injury. Not a bad way to announce yourselves.Learn more about the team here: https://milerrunning.com/pages/metropolitan-trail-racing

479 | Mud Pies, We Are Scientists, Wading Water and Surfing Clouds

Sep 18, 2026 1 hr 43 min

We're no hybrid rockstars, but then again we've never left a mud pie on course. We're also not scientists, or are we? Who knows. We discuss way too many topics on this episode of The Drop, ranging from mishaps to ultrarunning camming to brand new updates to the Believe in the Run website. Also, we cover the all-new On Cloudsurfer 3. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

The Dirt Division E046 | Pandaprank Orbis, Coaching, Midwest Things (ft. Meg Eckert)

Sep 16, 2026 1 hr 55 min

Alex and Taylor talk this week about coaching and some things to consider whether you're on the hunt for one or not. First, Alex tests Taylor to see if he is a true midwesterner. They end with a chat about a brand new trail shoe, the Pandarprank Orbis. Guest: Meg Eckhert just broke the world record for distance covered over 6 days! The Mount to Coast athlete, teacher, and wife gives us some insight on her preparation for such a feat.

478 | Sydney Marathon and the Sickness

Sep 11, 2026 1 hr 33 min

Meg just picked up her 7th major marathon in Sydney, but it came with a side of sickness that almost left her in Los Angeles. She's mostly back to normal, enough to recap her journey to the other side of the Earth. We cover that, as well as the Asics Sonicblast 2 Sunrise Edition. Thanks to Asics for the support over the past couple weeks, and to everyone that said hello from down under. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICKYour feet are sweating with all those workouts, so treat them with the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E045 | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra Evo, UTMB, and more

Sep 9, 2026 1 hr 24 min

Buckle up for all the rabbit holes. Taylor and Alex recap the last couple weeks of trail madness including UTMB, family vacations, bike mishaps, and gear they have been enjoying. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

477 | UTMB Recap, The Speed Project (Chamonix), Neighborhood Cleanup

Sep 4, 2026 1 hr 32 min

Thomas and Karl are back from Chamonix while Meg is somewhere in the skies above the Pacific. They recap the full UTMB experience, from hot dogs to haute couture in the French Alps. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

476 | Alex Arslan, Hylo Athletics

Aug 31, 2026 1 hr 5 min

Thomas and Meg interview Alex Arslan of Hylo Athletics to discuss his upbringing in the footwear industry and the new daily trainer from Hylo Athletics, the Impact 2.

475 | Live from Chamonix, MCC Recap

Aug 28, 2026 1 hr 12 min

Thomas, Taylor, and Karl come to you from the Alpina Hotel in the heart of Chamonix during UTMB week with Hoka. Thomas and Taylor recap their epic race at MCC. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICKYour feet are sweating with all those workouts, so treat them with the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E044 | UTMB, Leadville, Norda 000 (ft. Hans Troyer)

Aug 26, 2026 1 hr 38 min

August is THE month of trail running. Many of the most prolific races happen during this time and it is prime peak bagging season. Taylor and Alex talk about UTMB, Leadville, and an the new Norda x Black Diamond collaboration which includes the Norda 000. Guest: Hans Troyer is a Hoka athlete who has gained a large following through amazing performances but mostly because of his genuine likeable character. They chat about his first time in Europe, some takeaways from Wester States, and his outlook on his upcoming race, CCC. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to naak.com to explore and purchase. Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

474 | Nike Pegasus Plus 2, Falmouth Recap, Ramen and Hot Dogs

Aug 21, 2026 1 hr 21 min

The Megs ran the Falmouth Road Race with Asics while Thomas tapped into his culinary side with some hot dog ramen (sounds delicious). We also dive into the Nike Pegasus Plus 2, which features an all new Air Zoom unit in the forefoot. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

The Dirt Division E043 | Mount to Coast M1, Strava, and E-Bikes (ft. Jared Smith, Hoka PLM)

Aug 19, 2026 1 hr 57 min

Taylor and Alex dig into multiple topics this week including their personal tendencies when it comes to Strava, thoughts on E-bikes, and wrap up with a conversation about the new Mount to Coast M1. Guest: Jared Smith is Hoka's Senior Product Line Manager. He and Taylor talk about his history with Hoka, the current "technical" terrain lineup that includes the upcoming Tecton X 4, plus insight about the return of the Evo Speedgoat and more. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase.

473 | Most Overrated and Underrated Running Shoes of 2026 (So Far), Blood Doping, It's It Ice Cream

Aug 14, 2026 1 hr 23 min

We don't have a shoe to highlight this week, so we thought we'd give you our picks for the most overrated and underrated running shoes of 2026 (so far). Meg also gives her top 5 picks for race day shoes, which may surprise you. We also discuss the latest blood doping scandal in running and Thomas proposes a novel idea to catch them if you can. Plus- shout-out to It's-It ice cream sandwiches for giving Thomas core childhood memories. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Fall marathon training is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICK Your feet are sweating with all those workouts, so treat them with the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E042 | Merrell, Beast of Big Creek, & Coffee

Aug 12, 2026 1 hr 16 min

Long time trail reviewer, Sam Edgin, joins Alex and Taylor this week to talk about his experience at The Beast of Big Creek with Merrell...after they talk about coffee that is. Sam gives insight on the event, beta on an upcoming 2027 Merrell trail shoe, and much more.Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase.Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

472 | Hoka Tecton X 4, Summer GRIT Recap With Ranch Dressing

Aug 7, 2026 1 hr 29 min

Turns out that Thomas doesn't like ranch dressing, which would get you excommunicated from Guy Fieri's cruise line in a matter of minutes. No worries, you can head over to Estes Park and hang with him and Taylor as they take on the trails in the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4, improved in all the right places over the last version. Congrats again to all our Summer GRIT participants, and to the winner Connor Bessell who racked up a marathon a day! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe

The Dirt Division E041 | Budget Trail Running Kit, Hoka Tecton X 4, Believe Basecamp

Aug 5, 2026 1 hr 12 min

This week, Alex posed a challenge to pick out a budget-friendly trail running kit. They give insight on how to shop, things to look for, etc. Outside of that conversation they talk about about a special Rocky Mountain mission for Taylor and Thomas as well as the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase.

471 | Josh Kerr (Re-Release)

Aug 3, 2026 1 hr 1 min

We watched Josh break the world-record last month, and we went back and listed to our original conversation with him back in 2023. It's worth a re-release. We hope you enjoy. From the original episode: He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest podcast in history of the universe. So yeah, you could say it's been a whirlwind of a month for Brooks elite Josh Kerr. We had a lot of fun talking to him about running, winning, and eating to much fast food in America.Follow Josh on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/joshhkerr

470 | Hylo Impact 2, Obsession, Bring Back Buttons

Jul 31, 2026 1 hr 12 min

Be careful what you wish for, or your girlfriend might love the Boston Marathon more than anything else in the whole world. In our case, we're already obsessed with running so we can't get any crazier. We recap GRIT standings before dipping into our experience driving an electric car and wishing we had knobs and buttons again. We also preview the Hylo Impact 2, a new version of the daily trainer offered from the London-based brand. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT Summer is in full swing, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICK Fall marathon season is on the way, which means you'll need the best pair of socks for training and race day. We use Swiftwick for all our races, which keep us cool and blister free. Pick up your pair and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E040 | Obsessed July, Asics MetaFuji Trail 2 (ft. Dr. Jason Tso & Dr. Malene Lindholm)

Jul 29, 2026 1 hr 59 min

Alex, Reese, and Taylor talk about what they are obsessed with in the month of July. Everything from minivans, to horses, to stack heights was fair game. They wrap up their conversations with early imperessions of the upcoming Asics Metafuji Trail 2. Guest: Reese chats with Dr. Jason Tso and Malene Lindholm who are conducting a study at Stanford that's focused on common genetic markers for endurance performance. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase. Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

469 | New Balance SC Rebel v1, Thomas vs. the White Mountains, Kerr Goes Krazy

Jul 24, 2026 1 hr 21 min

What a week for running as Josh Kerr does the unthinkable in breaking the mile world record. Thomas also does the unthinkable by attempting the Presidential Traverse in adverse conditions, but manages to make it out alive with some stories to tell. We also run down the New Balance SC Rebel v1, an all-new super trainer coming in August for $200. ASICS GRIT PARTY DETAILSWhat: 3-mile group run followed by after partyWhen: Saturday, July 25 @ 11:30 a.m. (3-mile group run, after party starts at 12)Where: Hampden Yards, 3601 Hickory Ave, Baltimore, MD 21211Who: You and your family and friendsCost: FREESUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believeLMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. Or, opt for the sparkling slim cans with half of everything you get in the standard packets. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Dirt Division E039 | Brooks Cascadia 20, Trail Gear Trends, The Presi (ft. Sean Van Horn)

Jul 22, 2026 2 hr 12 min

Western States and Hardrock are over. Hear the Dirt Division's thoughts on gear-related trends between the two events as well as trends in trail running gear in general this year. Alex and Taylor then talk about the Brooks Cascadia 20 and Taylor's wild ride in the White Mountains with Thomas and the Mount to Coast crew. Guest: Sean Van Horn is a mountain runner from Colorado who has experienced all ends of the spectrum as an athlete. Not too long ago he was gunning for world records. More recently, health scares have him limited to an unknown. Listen to his story as well as get a sneak peak at some of La Sportiva's upcoming models for Spring/Summer 2027. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase.

468 | Blue Benadum - R.A.D

Jul 20, 2026 1 hr 14 min

Thomas and Meg sit down with Blue Benadum from R.A.D to talk about their lineup as well as his extensive history in the business, starting with his days at Nike.

467 | Topo Athletic Specter Elite, Tracksmith Eliot Ryder

Jul 17, 2026 1 hr 27 min

We got flooded houses, dead fish in the harbor, wildfires, and grit. And we say to ourselves, what a wonderful world. July is throwing a tempter tantrum but it's all been made easier with some fantastic shoes in the way of the Topo Athletic Specter Elite and the Tracksmith Eliot Ryder. We're also looking forward to the annual Summer GRIT party, which is happening next weekend here in Baltimore at Hampden Yards. Hope to see you there! ASICS GRIT PARTY DETAILS What: 3-mile group run followed by after partyWhen: Saturday, July 25 @ 11:30 a.m. (3-mile group run, after party starts at 12)Where: Hampden Yards, 3601 Hickory Ave, Baltimore, MD 21211Who: You and your family and friendsCost: FREE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop SWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. Now, you can get the special collab pair we wore in the Grand Canyon. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E038 | The North Face Offtrail Ultra, Recovery pt. 2 (ft. Tommie Runz)

Jul 15, 2026 2 hr 5 min

Reese, Alex, and Taylor first lay out their thoughts on the upcoming North Face Offtrail Ultra. Then, they round out their conversation on recovery, which inevitablyturns macro before getting to some of the gear that they use regularly for it.Guest: Tommie Runz has become a well-known runner due to his inspiring story and "stay ready" attitude. Hear about his experience getting into trail running and how this led to some of his most challenging (and rewarding) running experiences yet. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase. Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

E466 | On Headquarters in Zurich, Western States Recap

Jul 10, 2026 1 hr 38 min

The team has reassembled back in Baltimore, but it's been a whirlwind of the past two weeks as our running adventures took us everywhere from Western States 100 to the headquarters of On and Paris fashion week. We're tired but we're here, so that's gotta count for something.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LAGOON PILLOWSSleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believeLMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

The Dirt Division E037 | Norda 055, Recovery (ft. Arc'teryx Athletes Kyle Richardson and Jane Maus)

Jul 8, 2026 1 hr 38 min

The Dirt Division trio first mulls over one of the most anticipated shoes of the year, the Norda 055. Then, they dive into a two part conversation about recovery. Guest: Jane Maus and Kyle Richardson are true mountain athletes. They talk to Taylor about their draw to such terrain, background that led them there, and what it means to be supported by Arc'teryx. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase.

E465 | Wei-En Chang, JANUARY Founder

Jul 6, 2026 35 min

Thomas speaks with Wei-En Chang, the founder of JANUARY, a rising running shoe brand. Their first model coming to market is the Signal, their daily trainer.

E464 | Instagram Q&A, The World Cup, Summer GRIT, The Norwegian Method

Jul 3, 2026 1 hr 44 min

Thomas and Meg are en España this week, so Robbe, Karl, and Brady came off the bench to fill their boots. They talk through the World Cup, the Norwegian Method of producing athletes, and even touch on the exorbitant number of Oreo flavors. They answer some listener questions from Instagram and celebrate the beginning of GRIT to round it out.JOIN US FOR SUMMER GRITRegistration for Summer GRIT is right around the corner. If you want to join the challenge, improve your base fitness, and see what you're made of, you can join here: https://runsignup.com/Race/MD/Baltimore/GritLMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedropSWIFTWICKYou already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. Now, you can get the special collab pair we wore in the Grand Canyon. Get yourself ready for the new year and save 15% off your first purchase with code BELIEVE15: https://swiftwick.com/collections/believe

The Dirt Division E036 | Western States 2026 (ft. Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui)

Jul 1, 2026 1 hr 53 min

Alex, Taylor, and Maria (Believe in the Run's VIP) just returned from Western States. Even though they are sleep deprived, they talk about their experience at Western States. Guest: Nnormal athletes Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui chat with Taylor about running in the USA, Nnormal's team, as well as a sneak peek of an upcoming Nnormal Prototype shoe that Kilian used during Western States. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase. Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

E463 | Pre-Western States Weekend with Max Jolliffe

Jun 26, 2026 1 hr 0 min

In the midst of a busy trail packed week with Broken Arrow, TrailCon, and Western States, Max Jolliffe stopped by the BITR Tahoe HQ to chat about the week so far, his upcoming race at Badwater 135, and dissecting a little bit more of the aftermath of the Satisfy Circle Pit. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! LMNT The temperatures are climbing up and up, which means you need more salt than you think you do. Crisp and refreshing, all LMNT flavors deliver 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, and 60 mg magnesium. And if you're an insider, you can get the limited-edition Pink Lemonade or Lemonade Iced Tea. Get your free 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: https://drinklmnt.com/thedrop LAGOON PILLOWS Sleep is training. Lagoon Pillow is built around your sleep position and preferences — so you wake up recovered and ready to run. We use them every night and you should too. Find your perfect pillow at lagoonsleep.com/believe PILLAR Recently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us great sleep and helps us recover better so we're ready to train again tomorrow.If you want to try PILLAR, you can head to pillarperformance.shop or TheFeed.com/pillar and enter code BITR for 15% off first-time purchases.

The Dirt Division E035 | The Great American Trailapalooza (ft. Aeres Reading)

Jun 24, 2026 2 hr 5 min

It's that time of year again. Taylor headed out to what he is coining as, "The Great American Trailapalooza". He, Reese, and Alex talk about what happens during the ten day span of Broken Arrow Skyrace, Trailcon, and Western States. Taylor, also gives a first-hand account of his experience at Broken Arrow with Nike ACG. Then, Taylor talks to Aeres Reading, a trail racing young gun, who will be living, breathing, and sleeping trail running as a Trail House athlete. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their highest performance Boost line doubles down on the carbs for high-performance fuel that's also gut-friendly. Go to http://naak.com to explore and purchase. Lagoon: Sleep is one of the most underrated training components. We've been fans of Lagoon for years and use their custom pillows nightly to support a great night of sleep and, of course, our running. Go to http://lagoonsleep.com/believe to take a quick quiz to find the best pillow for you. Get 15% off your purchase by using code BELIEVE

E462 | Drew Magaha - Mizuno Running

Jun 22, 2026 1 hr 0 min

Thomas and Meaghan sit down with Drew Magaha, Product Manager for Mizuno USA, to talk through his running history and what the brand has in store. The gang have been running in Mizuno shoes this year that are getting green lights across the board, so keep an eye out!

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Created by: Believe in the Run
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Latest episode: Nov 13, 2026
Episodes: 547
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