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John Andrews and David Harvey

Two Texts

A Christianity , Religion & Spirituality and Spirituality podcast

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About the show

A Podcast about the Bible  Every two weeks, from two different countries, the two hosts of the Two Texts podcast pick two biblical texts to talk about. Each episode we pick one text to talk about, which invariably leads to us talking about two texts and often many more. Dr John Andrews and Dr David Harvey share a mutual fascination with the Bible. Simple yet complex; ancient yet relevant; challenging yet comforting. But one thing that fascinates them consistently is that, like a kaleidoscope, no matter how many times they look at it there is something new, fresh and exciting to talk about. This podcast is designed for you regardless of how much or how little you've read the Bible. Grab a hot beverage, a notepad (or app), and a Bible, sit back, listen, enjoy, and learn to also become fascinated (or grow your fascination) with this exciting, compelling and mysterious book.  John and David are two friends who love teaching the Bible and have both been privileged enough to be able to spend their careers doing this - in colleges, universities, churches, homes and coffee shops. The two of them have spent extended periods of time as teaching staff and leadership in seminary and church contexts. John has regularly taught at David's church, and there was even a point where John was David's boss!  Nowadays David is a Priest and Pastor in Calgary, Canada, and John teaches and consults for churches in the UK and around the world. They're both married with children (John 3, David 1) and in John's case even grandchildren. In their down time you'll find them cooking, reading, running or watching football (but the one thing they don't agree on is which team to support).  If you want to get in touch with either of them about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? 

Newest episodes

From Division to Communion | Seven 6

31 min

In which John and David linger over the criminal’s plea, “Jesus, remember me,” and discover how biblical remembering means more than recalling. We explore the mercy of sins remembered no more, the startling sound of Jesus’ “Amen,” and why that single word matters for the Church’s prayers, before noticing how the cross turns division into communion. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 264 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 6 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Same Sentence, Different Hearts | Seven 5

29 min

In which John and David return to the cross and listen to the insults surrounding Jesus. As the mockery unwittingly tells the truth, we notice a startling change in one criminal: from joining the abuse to defending Jesus. We explore his confession of guilt, his recognition of Jesus’ innocence, and his extraordinary request: “Jesus, remember me.” Episode 263 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 5 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Unconditioned Forgiveness | Seven 4

33 min

In which John and David continue exploring Jesus’ first words from the cross in Luke 23 and his opening statement is not simply a declaration, but a prayer. Drawing on Isaiah, Galatians, and the Lord’s Prayer, we reflect on Jesus as the great high priest who intercedes for those responsible for his suffering. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 262 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 4 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

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From Division to Communion | Seven 6

31 min

In which John and David linger over the criminal’s plea, “Jesus, remember me,” and discover how biblical remembering means more than recalling. We explore the mercy of sins remembered no more, the startling sound of Jesus’ “Amen,” and why that single word matters for the Church’s prayers, before noticing how the cross turns division into communion. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 264 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 6 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Same Sentence, Different Hearts | Seven 5

29 min

In which John and David return to the cross and listen to the insults surrounding Jesus. As the mockery unwittingly tells the truth, we notice a startling change in one criminal: from joining the abuse to defending Jesus. We explore his confession of guilt, his recognition of Jesus’ innocence, and his extraordinary request: “Jesus, remember me.” Episode 263 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 5 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Unconditioned Forgiveness | Seven 4

33 min

In which John and David continue exploring Jesus’ first words from the cross in Luke 23 and his opening statement is not simply a declaration, but a prayer. Drawing on Isaiah, Galatians, and the Lord’s Prayer, we reflect on Jesus as the great high priest who intercedes for those responsible for his suffering. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 262 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 4 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Forgiveness Speaks First | Seven 3

30 min

In which John and David begin exploring Jesus’ first words from the cross in Luke 23. Against the brutality of crucifixion, Jesus speaks forgiveness before accusation, mockery, or repentance. Drawing on Augustine, Genesis, and the theology of grace, they consider how Christ’s words do more than describe forgiveness: they bring it into reality. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 261 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 3 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagramand Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Weight of the Words | Seven 2

30 min

In which John and David continue their exploration of the seven last words of Jesus, tracing their chronology across the Gospels and considering the significance of three hours of darkness and silence. From the tenderness of Christ’s opening words to the cosmic weight of his final cries, they reflect on the danger of rushing towards resurrection without confronting the suffering and death of Jesus. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 260 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 2 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Listen to the Words | Seven 1

29 min

In which John and David begin a new series exploring the seven words of Jesus from the cross. They consider the importance of slowing down and listening to familiar texts, the nature of mystery, and what Jesus’ words reveal about the cross: not simply as something that shows us God, but as the place where God is doing something. Pickup your copy of John’s new book Seven: Click here Episode 259 of the Two Texts Podcast | Seven 1 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Great I AM | Jesus and God's "Name" 22

38 min

In which John and David bring the latest series to an end by exploring the “soft” I AMs of John’s Gospel. From a confrontation in the Temple to Jesus’ arrest in the garden, we trace the growing force of ego eimi (I AM). They consider light and darkness, recognition and blindness, and what happens when the divine name moves from something easily missed to something impossible to ignore. Episode 258 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 22 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

I Am. Do not Fear | Jesus and God's "Name" 21

32 min

In which John and David turn to the “soft” I AMs of John’s Gospel. Beginning with the Samaritan woman and the disciples on the stormy sea, they explore how ego eimi echoes the divine name, how people respond when Jesus says it, and a striking contrast with Exodus: “I AM. Do not be afraid.”  Episode 257 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 21 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Christ-Shaped Fruit | Jesus and God's "Name" 20

29 min

In which John and David continue exploring Jesus as the true vine, asking what it really means to bear fruit. If Christ is the vine and we are the branches, fruitfulness is not our attempt to imitate Jesus, but Jesus producing his life in and through us: Christ-shaped people bearing Christ-shaped fruit.  Episode 256 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 20 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Where Do You Remain? | Jesus and God's "Name" 19

33 min

In which John and David explore Jesus’ final great “I am” statement, tracing the true vine through Israel’s story and following John’s repeated language of remaining. What begins with the disciples asking Jesus where he remains reaches a remarkable answer: remain in me, as I remain in you. Episode 255 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 19 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Love Beyond "Just" Being Good | Jesus and God's "Name" 18

36 min

In which John and David explore what Jesus means when he says, “If you love me, you will keep my commands.” Is Jesus issuing a demand, or describing what naturally grows from loving him? They trace echoes of Deuteronomy, ask what happens when Christianity becomes morality without encounter, and consider how being loved by God becomes love expressed in the world.  Episode 254 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 18 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Jesus Was Always the Way | Jesus and God's "Name" 17

26 min

In which John and David continue their conversation around Jesus as the Way, exploring the exclusivity of his claim, what it means to read Scripture backwards through Jesus, and the striking connections between John 14 and Ephesians 2. They trace the movement through Father, Son, and Spirit, and consider the disciples’ realization that they are already held within this divine life. Episode 253 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 17 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Way Is a Person | Jesus and God's "Name" 16

31 min

In which John and David continue their conversation about Jesus as “the way, the truth and the life.” What if the disciples are looking for a map when Jesus is offering them himself? They explore trust, troubled hearts, the surprising promise that Jesus will come and take us with him, and some echoes of Exodus hiding behind this famous “I am” saying. Episode 252 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 16 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Way, the Truth, and Our Anxiety | Jesus and God's "Name" 15

31 min

In which John and David return from a summer "digital break" to Jesus’ “I am” sayings and one of the most familiar verses in John’s Gospel. Reading “I am the way, the truth and the life” within the unsettled atmosphere of the Upper Room, they explore anxious disciples, troubled hearts, Jesus’ departure, and why these famous words might offer more than a familiar statement about salvation. Episode 251 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 15 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Resurrection Has a Name | Jesus and God's "Name" 14

31 min

In our 250th full episode we explore Jesus's declaration, “I am the resurrection and the life.” They consider the remarkable tenderness of the Lazarus story, its echoes of Ezekiel’s valley of dry bones, the intimacy of Jesus’ friendship with Mary, Martha and Lazarus, and why this miracle becomes both the clearest revelation of Christ’s identity and the decisive step towards the cross. Last episode before a summer break: We're taking a break during the summer to rest and spend time with loved ones. Don't worry about us though, we will be back soon. Episode 250 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 14 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Friends and Resurrection | Jesus and God's "Name" 13

34 min

In which John and David prepare to consider Jesus's "I am the Resurrection" statement by exploring the connections with Old Testament themes, and the profound intimacy and emotion in Jesus' interactions with Martha, Mary, and Lazarus In John 11. These narratives reveal Jesus' divine identity and invite us into a deeper faith. Episode 249 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 13 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Heart of the Shepherd | Jesus and God's "Name" 12

28 min

In which John and David continue discussing Jesus as the Good Shepherd in John's Gospel, connecting this I Am saying to Old Testament themes and the pastoral role of church leaders. We delve into biblical references, theological insights, and practical applications for spiritual leadership. Episode 248 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 12 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Good Shepherd | Jesus and God's "Name" 11

31 min

In which John and David explore the imagery of Jesus as the Good Shepherd in John's Gospel, examining how his sacrificial love contrasts with religious leaders and what it reveals about his character and mission. Episode 247 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 11 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Gate is Open | Jesus and God's "Name" 10

34 min

In which John and David reflect on the gate that is always open. Along the way we discuss Pharisees, Nicodemus, sheep, thieves, Psalm 118, and the challenge of remembering that Christ calls us to point people to the gate rather than stand guard at it.   Episode 246 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 10 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Gate not a Gatekeeper | Jesus and God's "Name" 9

34 min

In which John and David discover that Jesus does not replace one gatekeeper with another. Instead, he becomes the gate himself. Along the way we connect John 10 with Psalm 118, Nicodemus, the healing of the blind man, and the challenge of resisting the gatekeeper that lives within each of us.  Episode 245 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 9 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Light that Leads | Jesus and God's "Name" 8

32 min

In which John and David continue tracing the “I am the light of the world,” saying through the healing of the man born blind, the Feast of Tabernacles, and the movement from temple to wilderness. They consider witness, hiddenness, and what it means for Christ to be the light that leads.   Episode 243 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 8 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

More Light than You Realize | Jesus and God's "Name" 7

34 min

In which John and David explore Jesus’ saying, “I am the light of the world.” They trace its echoes through Genesis, John’s prologue, and the story of Nicodemus. They discuss witness, hiddenness, creation, and why failing to recognise Christ changes how everything else is seen. Episode 242 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 6 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

A Fire in Our Ears | Bonus Episode

31 min

In which John and David discuss David’s latest book A Fire in Our Ears, a collection of sermons shaped by a vision for the church. They explore preaching as Spirit-led encounter, Pentecost as a miracle of hearing, and a vision of the Church that resists fragmentation and uniformity—holding together Word, Spirit, and sacramental life.  Buy A Fire in Our Ears: Sermons on the Spirit, Hospitality, and the Church from May 10, 2026 at Amazon Episode 241 of the Two Texts Podcast | A Fire in Our Ears If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Hearing in the Dark | Bonus Episode

35 min

In which John and David discuss David’s new book Hearing in the Dark. We explore why modern life feels spiritually noisy, how Scripture trains us to listen rather than see, and how spiritual formation is closer to gardening than carpentry. Buy Hearing in the Dark: Christian Reflections on Spiritual Formation at Amazon Episode 240 of the Two Texts Podcast | Hearing in the Dark If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

More Than Manna | Jesus and God's "Name" 6

37 min

In which John and David continue in John's Gospel's "I AM" sayings, as Jesus names himself the Bread of Life. We follow the crowd’s hunger, their confusion, and their forgetfulness, and we trace how manna, memory, and communion converge. Along the way, we ask what it means not just to understand Christ, but to receive him as life itself.   Episode 239 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 6 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Better Bread | Jesus and God's "Name" 5

34 min

In which John and David explore Jesus' "Bread of Life" saying in the Gospel of John, noticing how Exodus imagery quietly shapes the scene. We trace how  Moses, manna, and the wilderness are layered into Jesus’ words and the scene, and we explore how the Gospel resists being dissected, instead inviting us to be carried along to Christ himself.  Episode 238 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 5 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The God who "moves in" | Jesus and God's "Name" 4

31 min

In which John and David continue in the prologue of John's Gospel, tracing how John reframes Exodus through Jesus. From children of God to the tabernacle and the glory Moses longed to see, we explore how the whole story is retold in Christ. The Word does not point to God from afar—he tents among us and makes him known.   Episode 237 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 4 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Christ is not a "Clue" | Jesus and God's "Name" 3

30 min

In which John and David begin a continue their new series on the “I AM” sayings by returning to John’s prologue. We explore how the Gospel frames Jesus not as a clue to God, but as God’s own self-interpretation. From Genesis echoes to the limits of creation and Scripture, we consider why only Christ makes the Father known.   Episode 236 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 3 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The "Angel" of the Lord | Jesus and God's "Name" 2

34 min

In which John and David explore the mysterious “angel of the Lord” in Exodus 3, tracing how the messenger is also identified as more than just an angel, maybe much more! Following threads through Abraham, Hagar, Jacob, and Gideon, we ask whether these encounters point to the pre-incarnate Christ—and how this reframes Jesus’ “I AM” claims in John’s Gospel. Episode 235 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 2 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The "Name" in the Fire | Jesus and God's "Name" 1

38 min

In which John and David begin a new series on the “I AM” sayings in John’s Gospel, beginning by tracing them back to the burning bush of Exodus 3. We explore how Jesus’ words are rooted in the divine name, how the New Testament reads the Old, and why Christ must be seen as present from the beginning if we are to understand who he truly is.   Episode 234 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jesus and God's "Name" 1 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Jonah Leaves us Answering | Jonah Beyond the Whale 29

31 min

In which John and David bring Jonah to a close by sitting with God’s final question. We reflect on divine mercy, human prejudice, and the unsettling grace that keeps everyone alive. Along the way, we consider God’s habit of asking questions, the patience that refuses to give up on prophets, and why Jonah’s story is still our story. Episode 233 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 29 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

"Should I Not Care?” Jonah’s Final Question | Jonah Beyond the Whale 28

30 min

In which John and David reflect on the final 39 words of Jonah and the question that ends the book. We explore the contrast between plant and city, mercy and justice, and why God’s unanswered question exposes our own hearts. Along the way, we consider Nahum, judgment, repentance, and the danger of shaping God in our image. Episode 232 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 28 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Jonah Under the Sun | Jonah Beyond the Whale 27

36 min

In which John and David turn from the gift of the plant to the discomfort of its removal. Reflecting on the worm, the scorching wind, and Jonah’s desire for death, they explore divine rebuke, trust, and the exposure of hidden evil. They move toward Jonah’s unresolved ending—and the uneasy question of what happens when grace is resisted. Episode 231 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 27 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Grace of a Plant | Jonah Beyond the Whale 26

39 min

In which John and David linger over Jonah’s plant and discover it is far more than a narrative oddity. Reading Jonah 4 alongside Genesis, the Feast of Booths, and the wider scriptural pattern of divine provision, they explore how God’s mercy repeatedly shelters Jonah—even as he resists extending that same mercy to others.  Episode 230 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 26 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

East of Eden | Jonah Beyond the Whale 25

38 min

In which John and David linger with Jonah 4 and the strange mercy of the plant, the worm, and the wind. They explore God’s repeated acts of provision, the attempt to draw Jonah out of his anger, and the Eden-and-Exodus echoes of a God still trying to rescue his prophet from the evil burning within him. Episode 229 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 25 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

When Mercy Makes Us Angry | Jonah Beyond the Whale 24

33 min

In which John and David begin Jonah 4 and confront the shock of the prophet’s anger. They explore the collision between Nineveh’s repentance and Jonah’s rage, the kindling of ra‘ah within the man of God, and the unsettling question of whether we, too, sit on the hill hoping for judgment while God persists in mercy. Episode 228 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 24 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The God Who Turns | Jonah Beyond the Whale 23

33 min

In which John and David consider Jonah 3:10–4:1 and the unsettling language of turning, repentance, and evil. They trace shuv and ra’ah through Jeremiah and Exodus, explore God’s predictable mercy, and wrestle with Jonah’s anger at a God who turns from judgment when people turn toward him. Episode 227 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 23 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

From Throne to Ashes | Jonah Beyond the Whale 22

36 min

In which John and David return to Jonah 3 and ponder the king of Nineveh’s response. They trace the force of the word that strikes the king, explore sackcloth, fasting, and the language of turning (shuv), and reflect on a repentance that draws in people, animals, and even God’s own merciful turning. Episode 226 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 22 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

The Spirit Makes The Sermon | Jonah Beyond the Whale 21

33 min

In which John and David reflect some more on Jonah’s bewildering sermon, its response, and the mysterious work of the Spirit in both preaching and hearing. We explore humility in proclamation, the difference between talking and true preaching, sackcloth and repentance, memory as yearning, and why Nineveh’s response reveals far more about God than about Jonah. Episode 225 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 21 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Frogs, Towers, and a Grumpy Prophet | Jonah Beyond the Whale 20

36 min

In which John and David explore the startling response to Jonah’s five-word sermon and consider how belief arises in surprising places. We ponder the mystery at the heart of Jonah 3, the unseen work of God, Tolkien’s tower, frogs in biology class, and why faith often exceeds the logic of its parts. Episode 224 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 20 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Jonah’s Unclear Sermon | Jonah Beyond the Whale 19

36 min

In which John and David explore Jonah’s five-word sermon, noticing how its brevity holds layers of meaning and ambiguity. We reflect on the tension between judgment and invitation, the dual possibilities within the word “overturned,” and the surprising breadth of compassion revealed in God’s dealings with Nineveh. We trace how the sermon’s grammar, its echoes across scripture, and Jonah’s own desires shape the message, and how Nineveh’s response becomes a lesson in hearing God rightly. Together we consider the complexity of prophecy, the nature of repentance, and the character of a God who overturns in order to restore. Episode 223 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 19 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

A Sermon of Five Words | Jonah Beyond the Whale 18

40 min

In which John and David reflect on Jonah’s five-word sermon, the prophet’s half-hearted obedience, and the surprising repentance of Nineveh. We explore how the narrative exposes Israel’s own reluctance to hear God, and how—even through flawed preaching—God’s word still brings life. Along the way we draw Bonhoeffer into the conversation on faithful proclamation. Episode 222 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 18 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Nineveh and the God Who Comes Near | Jonah Beyond the Whale 17

30 min

In which John and David trace the divine symmetry between the great fish and the great city of Nineveh. Together they uncover how Jonah’s story reveals a God both cosmic and near — one who commands creation yet longs for relationship. They reflect on the city “great to God,” the paradox of divine judgement and mercy, and how the incarnation embodies the mystery of a Creator who chooses to become a guest at our table. Episode 220 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 17 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

A Story Truer than it Seems | Jonah Beyond the Whale 16

32 min

In which John and David explore Jonah’s second calling and the grace woven into the story’s repetition. They reflect on Buechner’s and Tolkien’s ideas of myth, Hebrew wordplay that shifts God’s tone from 'against' to 'toward', and the layered symbolism of Nineveh’s name—revealing a God who commands even the 'gods' of the world. Episode 219 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 16 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Prayer from the Depths | Jonah Beyond the Whale 15

35 min

In which John and David explore Jonah’s cry from the “belly of Sheol” and ask whether the prophet’s prayer describes death, near-death, or resurrection itself. We trace echoes of Psalms 16 and 139, connect Jonah’s deliverance to Jesus’ “sign of Jonah,” and marvel at the irony that salvation—still—belongs to the Lord. Episode 218 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 15 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Not Faithless, Just Forgetful | Jonah Beyond the Whale 14

39 min

In which John and David reflect on Jonah’s prayer from the belly of the fish, exploring how it echoes the Psalms and reveals a God who always calls us home. We discuss honesty, faithfulness, and what it means to return to God even in darkness—remembering that salvation belongs to the Lord. Episode 217 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 14 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

A Psalm from the Belly | Jonah Beyond the Whale 13

40 min

In which John and David explore Jonah’s prayer from the belly of the great fish. We explore its Psalm-like poetry, Jonah’s descent into death, and the layers of creation, flood, and exodus woven through his cry. Along the way, we ask what kind of repentance this really is—and discover that even in Jonah’s inconsistency, the Lord remains steadfast. Episode 216 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 13 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Jonah’s Descent and God’s Design | Jonah Beyond the Whale 12

42 min

In which John and David explore Jonah’s descent into the deep and God’s appointment of the great fish. We trace the Hebrew term manah—God’s “ordination” of creation—to reveal divine order emerging from chaos. Along the way, we uncover echoes of Genesis, the three-day pattern of transformation, and Jesus’ sign of Jonah that links creation to redemption. Episode 215 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 12 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

What Have You Done? | Jonah Beyond the Whale 11

39 min

In which John and David reflect on Jonah 1:7–17, exploring Jonah’s confession of faith and its irony against his rebellion. We trace echoes from Psalm 95, Genesis, and Exodus, uncovering how the sailors sound more righteous than the prophet. The conversation uncovers themes of evil and creation, as Jonah is cast into the sea and swallowed by the great fish. Episode 214 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 11 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

Casting Lots and Calming Storms | Jonah Beyond the Whale 10

33 min

In which John and David explore Jonah 1:4–16, tracing how fear moves from terror to worship as the sailors cry out, sacrifice, and make vows to the Lord. Along the way, we follow echoes across scripture—from Isaiah and Samuel to Acts and Hebrews—discovering how Jonah’s reluctant scapegoat role points toward Jesus’ willing sacrifice. Episode 213 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 10 If you want to get in touch about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? Music by Woodford Music (c) 2021 ________ Help us keep Two Texts free for everyone by becoming a supporter of the show  John and David want to ensure that Two Texts always remains free content for everyone. We don't want to create a paywall or have premium content that would exclude others.  However, Two Texts costs us around £60 per month (US$75; CAD$100) to make. If you'd like to support the show with even just a small monthly donation it would help ensure we can continue to produce the content that you love.  Thank you so much. Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) Support the show

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