LIVE: Russian Navy stretched thin, 800 hybrid attacks exposed and Europe (still!) debates seizing Russian assets
45 min
In part two of our live recording of Ukrainapodden at Carls in Oslo, hosted in collaboration with the Norwegian Institute for Defence Studies (IFS), moderator Tormod Malvin Sæther examines how Norway, NATO, and Europe are confronting the full spectrum of Russian aggression. Joining him on stage are Lesia Ogryzko (co-founder and director of the Sahaidachny Security Center and head of the Reform Support Office at the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense), Norwegian Minister of Defense Tore Sandvik, and Karen-Anna Eggen (associate professor and head of the program for Ukraine and full spectrum threats at IFS). Ogryzko breaks down the three layers of the Russian threat: conventional mass, next-generation drone warfare, and sub-threshold sabotage across Europe. She highlights the staggering production gap between Russia’s monthly output of 110 ballistic missiles and 10,000 drones versus global production of PAC-3 Patriot interceptors, while presenting the Everywhere War Tracker—revealing over 800 hybrid attacks across NATO territory. She also challenges European leaders to go harder after Russia’s Shadow Fleet and deduct the financial cost of airport drone incursions directly from frozen Russian assets. Defense Minister Tore Sandvik explains NATO’s escalation management, noting that Western sanctions on the Shadow Fleet have stretched the Russian Navy thin, while warning of a high probability of Russian sabotage in Norway this year. Associate Professor Karen-Anna Eggen analyzes how Russia is constantly testing NATO’s threshold—from maritime incidents in the Black Sea off Romania and Bulgaria to covert property acquisitions in Norway—and explains why the Moscow delegation led by Vladimir Medinsky at the Abu Dhabi talks is merely buying time. The panel also confronts Europe’s critical dependence on the United States and Elon Musk’s Starlink following recent shutdowns, emphasizing urgent European initiatives like Project FREYJA and sovereign AI. See omnystudio.com/listener for p...