#599 Jason Flom with Lauren Bright Pacheco & Robert Motta on Christopher Vaughn & Lindsay Clancy
45 min
Jason Flom sits down with journalist and podcast host Lauren Bright Pacheco and criminal defense attorney and podcast host Robert Motta to examine two devastating family tragedies, drawing connections between the cases and raising troubling questions about maternal mental health care, gender and racial bias, investigative practices, and the power of media narratives to shape perceptions of guilt and innocence.In 2007, Christopher Vaughn was found bleeding from gunshot wounds along a road near Joliet, Illinois. Nearby, police discovered his wife, Kimberly, and their three children shot to death inside the family SUV. Convicted of their murders, Vaughn maintains his innocence and is serving four consecutive life sentences.In 2023, Massachusetts mother Lindsay Clancy was charged with killing her three young children before attempting to take her own life. Unlike Kimberly Vaughn, Lindsay survived.At the heart of this episode is one unsettling question: Had Lindsay Clancy not survived, would her husband have become another Christopher Vaughn? Explore More From Our Guests: Lauren Bright Pacheco | Journalist, Producer & Podcast HostWebsite – https://laurenbrightpacheco.comMurder in Illinois iHeart – https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-murder-in-illinois-84071522/ Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-in-illinois/id1573417225Murder on Songbird Road iHeart – https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-murder-on-songbird-road-251918548/ Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-on-songbird-road/id1787370418Robert Motta | Defense Attorney, Producer & Podcast HostWebsite – https://www.defensediaries.com Defense Diaries (YouTube) – https://www.youtube.com/@defensediariespodBURIED: Inside the John Wayne Gacy Investigation Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/buried-inside-the-john-wayne-gacy-investigation/id1846746866 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/0rIpFhRkd98JuEwljUELKY Episode Resources: Maternal Mental Health S...