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So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.

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Why Sensitivity Is A Strength (with Mike Vaughn)

40 min

Are you a highly sensitive / high sensing person (HSP)? Mike Vaughn explains why sensitivity may be the #1 predictor of addiction, how to find out where you fall in the spectrum of sensitivity, and practical wisdom on navigating daily life without getting overstimulated. If you have felt like being sensitive is a weakness, this episode will help you understand and appreciate why sensitivity is a strength. Take the free self-test to see if you are highly sensitive or high sensation-seeking: hsperson.com/test/ Mike Vaughn leads Bethesda Workshops as its Executive Director. Mike is an accomplished business leader and therapist, specializing in the areas of sex addiction recovery, intensive therapy, marriage therapy and trauma. Mike co-founded SureHope Counseling & Training Center (a large outpatient group practice) in Charlotte, NC, and has over 20 years of experience as a therapist. Mike continues to share his work nationwide as a national conference speaker with over 100 television appearances and is the author of an ebook for therapists on providing intensive therapy. Learn more about Mike and intensive therapy at counselingpracticecoach.com Bethesda Workshops provides a place of healing for those damaged by pornography and other forms of compulsive sexual behavior, offering Christian-based, short-term, clinical workshops for male sex addicts, female sex addicts, partners of addicts, couples affected by sexual addiction, and adolescents and their parents. Learn more at bethesdaworkshops.org Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Understanding SSSA: Same-Sex Sexual Attraction

20 min

In this powerful teaching from the Same-Sex Connection Conference, Drew Boa breaks down the difference between SSA, SSSA, and sexualized attachment. You'll learn the 4 P's of attraction (preference, pleasure, pull, and power), the 5 types of intimacy, and why unmet attachment needs often get sexualized. This episode provides practical vocabulary and clarifies the truth that same-sex attraction is meant to lead you into healthy same-sex connection. Check out the SSA Coaching app! The SSA Coaching app helps you... Process your story with curiosity and compassionBuild strong friendships and own your masculinityLive in alignment with your Christian valuesInside, you’ll find: A personalized plan shaped around your sexual story, your values, and your goals.Daily lessons and guided reflections exploring SSA and SSSA through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS), sexual development, faith, and healthy brotherhood.Text and audio learning options, so you can read or listen anytime, anywhere.An AI coach that helps you reflect and put what you’re learning into practice.Get started now at ssacoaching.com. Mentioned in this episode: Healing & Recovery: Perspective For Young Men with Sexualized Attachments by Dr. Floyd Godfrey Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Actually Grieve (with Mike Murray)

35 min

Unprocessed loss is one of the most common drivers of unwanted sexual behavior. When we don't allow ourselves to grieve, pain stays trapped in the body until it comes out sideways, often through unwanted sexual behavior. Mike Murray shares his story of losing his father at age eight, his personal healing process, and why we need to stop invalidating our pain and start giving our younger selves the love they need. You'll hear the 6 needs of the grieving, practical ideas on how to grieve well, and what happens when we invite Jesus into our grief. Mike Murray is a licensed independent social worker with 10 years of experience specializing in EMDR Therapy and grief work. Trained by grief experts Megan Devine and David Kessler, Mike is passionate about destigmatizing mental health in the church. Resources mentioned in this episode:  It's Okay That You're Not Okay by Megan Devine (book)Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund (book)The Mystery of Life, Death, and Suffering (podcast episode where Drew tells his story of infant loss)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

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Why Sensitivity Is A Strength (with Mike Vaughn)

40 min

Are you a highly sensitive / high sensing person (HSP)? Mike Vaughn explains why sensitivity may be the #1 predictor of addiction, how to find out where you fall in the spectrum of sensitivity, and practical wisdom on navigating daily life without getting overstimulated. If you have felt like being sensitive is a weakness, this episode will help you understand and appreciate why sensitivity is a strength. Take the free self-test to see if you are highly sensitive or high sensation-seeking: hsperson.com/test/ Mike Vaughn leads Bethesda Workshops as its Executive Director. Mike is an accomplished business leader and therapist, specializing in the areas of sex addiction recovery, intensive therapy, marriage therapy and trauma. Mike co-founded SureHope Counseling & Training Center (a large outpatient group practice) in Charlotte, NC, and has over 20 years of experience as a therapist. Mike continues to share his work nationwide as a national conference speaker with over 100 television appearances and is the author of an ebook for therapists on providing intensive therapy. Learn more about Mike and intensive therapy at counselingpracticecoach.com Bethesda Workshops provides a place of healing for those damaged by pornography and other forms of compulsive sexual behavior, offering Christian-based, short-term, clinical workshops for male sex addicts, female sex addicts, partners of addicts, couples affected by sexual addiction, and adolescents and their parents. Learn more at bethesdaworkshops.org Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Understanding SSSA: Same-Sex Sexual Attraction

20 min

In this powerful teaching from the Same-Sex Connection Conference, Drew Boa breaks down the difference between SSA, SSSA, and sexualized attachment. You'll learn the 4 P's of attraction (preference, pleasure, pull, and power), the 5 types of intimacy, and why unmet attachment needs often get sexualized. This episode provides practical vocabulary and clarifies the truth that same-sex attraction is meant to lead you into healthy same-sex connection. Check out the SSA Coaching app! The SSA Coaching app helps you... Process your story with curiosity and compassionBuild strong friendships and own your masculinityLive in alignment with your Christian valuesInside, you’ll find: A personalized plan shaped around your sexual story, your values, and your goals.Daily lessons and guided reflections exploring SSA and SSSA through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS), sexual development, faith, and healthy brotherhood.Text and audio learning options, so you can read or listen anytime, anywhere.An AI coach that helps you reflect and put what you’re learning into practice.Get started now at ssacoaching.com. Mentioned in this episode: Healing & Recovery: Perspective For Young Men with Sexualized Attachments by Dr. Floyd Godfrey Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Actually Grieve (with Mike Murray)

35 min

Unprocessed loss is one of the most common drivers of unwanted sexual behavior. When we don't allow ourselves to grieve, pain stays trapped in the body until it comes out sideways, often through unwanted sexual behavior. Mike Murray shares his story of losing his father at age eight, his personal healing process, and why we need to stop invalidating our pain and start giving our younger selves the love they need. You'll hear the 6 needs of the grieving, practical ideas on how to grieve well, and what happens when we invite Jesus into our grief. Mike Murray is a licensed independent social worker with 10 years of experience specializing in EMDR Therapy and grief work. Trained by grief experts Megan Devine and David Kessler, Mike is passionate about destigmatizing mental health in the church. Resources mentioned in this episode:  It's Okay That You're Not Okay by Megan Devine (book)Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund (book)The Mystery of Life, Death, and Suffering (podcast episode where Drew tells his story of infant loss)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Processing Betrayal Trauma Anger (with Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck)

31 min

Why is anger after sexual betrayal so intense, unpredictable, and heartbreaking? Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck unpacks the complex dynamics of betrayal trauma anger for both the betrayed and the betrayer. You'll learn the S.C.I.P. protocol to manage anger and anxiety, the 7 phases of betrayal trauma anger recovery, and why sexual betrayal is like bullfighting. In the end, you'll leave with hope that grieving sexual betrayal can transform deep pain into even deeper healing. Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck is a Christian who believes every person is valuable. She is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, a Florida State Supervisor for those seeking a license in Mental Health Counseling or Marriage and Family Therapy, and a Certified Life Coach. Dr. H's approach to counseling and coaching is non-judgmental, caring, and solution focused. Dedicating her life to helping others as a therapist and coach is a result of post traumatic growth from her own personal life experiences. Learn more at crystalhollenbeck.com Buy Crystal's book: Betrayal Trauma Anger: You're not Crazy...You're Angry...And You Should Be! How to Process Complex Anger While Healing from the Impact of Sexual Betrayal Download Crystal’s SCIP Protocol PDF: https://crystalhollenbeck.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/SCIP-Protocol.pdf Read Crystal’s journal article on betrayal trauma anger: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2024.2306940#d1e130 Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How Jesus Heals Sexual Shame (Sermon on John 8:1-11)

35 min

When sexual sin and shame are exposed, how does Jesus respond? See how compassion overcomes condemnation in the story of the woman caught in adultery. This sermon was originally preached on Sunday, September 27, 2026 at the Husband Material Fall Retreat in Colorado.  Previous sermons from HM Retreats: Promised Land Sexuality (Deuteronomy 11:10-12)You Are Not Too Much (Mark 6:30-56)Excluded & Emasculated (Acts 8:26-40)David's Sexual Story (2 Samuel 11-12)The Beauty Of Brotherhood (Psalm 133)How Jesus Reverses The Curse (John 21)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Porn And Narcissistic Personality Disorder (with Dr. Alexandra Repke)

30 min

What is narcissistic personality disorder, and how does it interact with porn and sex addiction? For someone with NPD or narcissistic traits, what does healing and growth look like? Dr. Alexandra Repke (CSAT, EMDR, C-PD) is a Christian psychologist who typically work with successful professionals facing challenges in their relationships or careers, often stemming from issues related to addiction, personality, or trauma. She is a lifelong learner, committed to understanding the complexities of mental health and advocating for practical, impactful solutions. Learn more at repkepsychologicalservices.com Books mentioned (these are paid links): Thanks for the Feedback, by Douglas Stone and Sheila HeenThe Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists, by Eleanor PaysonA Game Free Life, by Stephen KarpmanSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Jesus Has A Penis (with Therapy Brothers)

42 min

Have you ever thought about the fact that Jesus has a penis? What are the implications? Considering Christ's full humanity confronts us with a fresh, shame-free perspective on male sexuality. Licensed therapists Brannon and Tyler Patrick explore this important topic by highlighting the goodness of sex, how sexual self-rejection comes out sideways in addiction and secrecy, why radical self-acceptance leads to freedom, and what it looks like to harness sexual energy with purpose.  Brannon Patrick, LCSW, and Tyler Patrick, LMFT, are brothers and licensed clinicians who help individuals and couples heal after infidelity, addiction, and the trust rupture that follows. With 20+ years each in addiction and trauma work, they bring both depth and straight talk, translating complex psychology into practical next steps people can use immediately. Together, they host The Therapy Brothers, a weekly call-in show where real people work through betrayal, shame, trauma, and addiction in real time. Their approach centers on heart work: healing the underlying trauma and shame so couples can rebuild trust with honesty, accountability, empathy, and healthy strength. Learn more at therapybrothers.org If you're a man who has broken trust through infidelity or you're struggling with addiction to porn or sex, check out Tyler and Brannon's Rising Son Journey: online groups and in-person weekends at ⁠⁠risingson.org NOTE: The views expressed by guests on this podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Husband Material Ministries. Featuring a guest is not an endorsement of their beliefs, methods, products, services, or any other content they may have created or promoted. We believe in the practice of discernment —so as with any resource, we encourage you to listen thoughtfully, test all things against sound wisdom and your own convictions, take what's helpful, and leave the rest behind. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast...

Becoming 100% Honest (with Blake Roberts and Jamie Haigh)

39 min

What if at our very best, we are 97% honest with ourselves and others, and the 3% we withhold keeps us bound to shame, loneliness, and unwanted behavior? That's what Blake Roberts and Jamie Haigh discovered. In this episode, you'll hear their personal journeys through porn addiction recovery, the power of daily phone calls and radical honesty, and how to decide who has earned the right to hear your 3%.  Blake Roberts and Jamie Haigh are best friends, licensed therapists, and co-creators of Three Percent. Three Percent is a men's mental health podcast and community turning emotional walls into deeper relationships with yourself, others, and God. Learn more at threepercentco.com Listen to the Three Percent podcast at threepercentco.com/podcast Read Blake and Jamie's work on Substack at substack.com/@threepercent Join The Basement, a private paid ($10/mo) community designed for those who are ready to move beyond surface-level connection and engage their emotional lives with more clarity and courage: threepercentco.com/membership Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Secrecy vs. Privacy: What's The Difference?

12 min

How do you distinguish between sexual secrecy and sexual privacy? Learn 3 key differences between secrecy and privacy: motivation (fear vs. love), intention (control vs. care), and protecting addiction vs. protecting people. This episode includes 6 real-life case studies and 1 simple strategy any couple can use to strengthen their relationship. You don't have to share everything with everyone, but unlearning secrecy is the first step toward lasting freedom. What questions or comments do you have about secrecy vs. privacy? Let us know in the Husband Material Community at husbandmaterial.com/community Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Marriage And Ministry With Same-Sex Attraction (with Jeff Johnson)

30 min

For decades, Jeff Johnson hid his sexual attraction to other men. This secret kept him trapped in shame and isolation until everything changed in an open conversation with his now-wife, Jourdan. Jeff's story is proof that same-sex attraction does not disqualify anyone from marriage, ministry, or male connection. In this episode, you'll hear Jeff share honestly about faith, friendship, and a freedom that does not require the absence of temptation. It's truly inspiring! Jeff and Jourdan Johnson are worship leaders and pastors at Passion City Church in Atlanta, GA, with 25+ years of ministry experience. They've spent decades leading worship across the country, creating spaces where people can encounter God in a real and transformative way. Their journey has been deeply shaped by God's faithfulness—particularly through Jeff's decades-long experience navigating same-sex attraction while holding onto his faith. This led them to start Open Spaces, a podcast where they share their story and engage in honest conversations about faith, marriage, identity, and the power of living with vulnerability. Learn more at theopenspacescollective.com Listen to Jeff and Jourdan's podcast at theopenspacescollective.com/podcast To connect with Jeff or Jourdan, email questions@openspacespodcast.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Sonship And Masculine Inititation (with Morgan Snyder)

49 min

Get ready for a wild conversation on the adventure of masculine initiation, spiritual formation, and life as a beloved son with Morgan Snyder. You'll hear what it truly means to be fathered by God, how unhealed emasculation ("castration") can leave parts of a man’s soul dormant, and why true strength is cultivated through total dependence on God rather than self-reliance. Morgan Snyder is a grateful husband of twenty-five years to his wife, Cherie, and a proud father of two remarkable children. He serves as a spiritual director, strategist, teacher, writer, and speaker devoted to the formation of wholehearted leaders. Morgan is the President and Founder of Become Good Soil, established in 2010 as a global fellowship and training ground for leaders who have consented to organize their entire lives around apprenticeship to God and His Kingdom. His passion is to apprentice men, women, and marriages into wholeheartedness, freedom, and maturity for the sake of faithfully carrying responsibility in the Kingdom of God.  For more than twenty-five years, Morgan served alongside John and Stasi Eldredge at Wild at Heart, including as Vice President. Throughout those decades, he helped initiate men and participate in the spiritual formation of leaders around the globe, guiding sold-out events and leadership initiatives across the United States, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia, and beyond. Morgan now shares a mission with Cherie, a clinical counselor and co-host of the Become Good Soil Podcast, as they intentionally transition into becoming second-half-of-life leaders. Together, they are devoted to serving the next two generations of leaders while helping their peers become sages for the generations that follow. After turning fifty, Morgan and Cherie made the intentional decision to serve as full-time volunteers within their vocational space, offering their lives, experience, and leadership in wholehearted response to the invitation of God. Their work now centers on...

Why Sexual Fantasies Will Never Satisfy You

13 min

Have you ever felt like a sexual fantasy was so irresistible that missing out on it felt like missing out on life itself? While fantasies promise satisfaction, they are ultimately symbolic attempts to rewrite reality—seemingly beautiful like a sunset, but cold and empty when you try to hold them. In this episode, you'll learn why sexual fantasies will never satisfy you, how to decode what your fantasies are actually trying to tell you, and how to find true soul-level satisfaction. Whether your fantasies focus on specific sexual experiences, particular people, or potential relationships, this episode will give you wisdom and direction to discover what you truly desire. Download the free PDF of Drew's list of 40 desires (and other helpful documents) at husbandmaterial.com/documents Watch Husband Material's YouTube Playlist on Understanding Sexual Arousal, Fantasy, and Desire: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMrBq-rwRxSA Related episodes: Sexual Arousal vs. Sexual DesireHow To Interpret Sexual FantasiesHow To Analyze A Sexual FantasyIntroduction To Sexual SymbolismHow My Sexual Fetish Shifted Over TimeSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Tough Truths For Unfaithful Husbands (with James and Sam)

44 min

What if my wife isn't doing "her work"? What if my inner child doesn't feel safe with her? What if I feel like she is controlling me? How can I be assertive without being selfish? In this episode, you'll get answers to some of the toughest, most common questions men ask while trying to rebuild trust after sexual betrayal. Our guests today are James and Sam, co-hosts of the Ask The Unfaithful Podcast. Listen now at asktheunfaithful.com James Annear is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC), Certified Professional Coach, Certified Clinical Partner Specialist - Supervisor (APSATS), Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) - Supervisor, and a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. He and his wife, Sharon Rinearson, LCSW, own CORE Relationship Recovery and are known for their down to earth, practical and creative interventions and antidotes when it comes to helping couples heal from relational and sexual betrayals in relationships, as well as tackling developmentally damaging experiences in custom created intensives. Creating safe spaces for couples, unfaithful partners and betrayed partners to do work that can help free them from their old unhappy and unhealthy lives, James and Sharon use unique techniques based in neurobiology, addiction science, PTSD trauma techniques and their own methods of interpersonal therapies to create dramatic differences with their clients. Learn more at hopeforus.com For over 15 years, Sam has been one of the leading content creators for healing and recovery of both betrayed and unfaithful spouses. After more than a decade of blogging and filming under one of the betrayal trauma’s founding fathers, clinician Rick Reynolds of affairrecovery.com, Sam has ventured out to pursue, create and live out his lifelong vision and passion for healing those touched by the trauma of infidelity. Through Sam's Healing Podcast and Ask the Unfaithful, Samuel continues to bring his own personal experiences with infidelity recovery along with delivering the...

Sextinction: Why We Are Having Less Sex (with Dr. Debra Soh)

40 min

What is the "sex recession" and why is it happening? Dr. Debra Soh explains today's widespread decline of sexual activity, long-term commitment, marriage, and childbearing—particularly among Gen Z and Millennials. We'll explore the underlying factors causing young men to pull away from real-world dating, including early exposure to  pornography, digital substitutes like OnlyFans and AI chatbots, and extreme social media pressures around appearance. You'll also hear practical steps to restore real-world connection, overcome social anxiety through exposure, and build lasting confidence. Dr. Debra Soh is a neuroscientist who specializes in human sexuality. Her new book, Sextinction: The Decline of Sex and the Future of Intimacy, investigates the global “dating recession” and how technology and mainstream science denial are polarizing the sexes. As a science journalist, Debra's writing has appeared in Harper’s Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, The Globe and Mail, The Free Press, and many other publications. Learn more at DrDebraSoh.com Click here to buy Debra's new book: https://www.amazon.com/Sextinction-Decline-Sex-Future-Intimacy/dp/1668057395 Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

What The Song Of Songs Teaches Us About Sex (with Russell Zahniser)

45 min

Have you ever wondered what the Song of Songs (Song of Solomon) is actually saying? Drawing on insights from ancient Mesopotamian erotic poetry, Russell Zahniser breaks down the two models of male sexuality featured in the Song of Songs. Listen to discover how this mysterious book of the Bible speaks out against coercive, fast-paced sex, advocating instead for mutual consent and genuine bonding. You'll also hear Russell tell his personal story of sexual development, what he has learned about arousal, and why sex is so much more than intercourse. Russell Zahniser is a writer and researcher who wanted to use the Song of Songs as a starting point to give to his sons a picture of healthy, mutual sexuality. What he found instead was a desperate plea to reimagine male sexuality and how we define sex itself. Learn more at russellzahniser.substack.com/p/made-for-connection Subscribe to Russell Zahniser on Substack: russellzahniser.substack.com/ Russell Zahniser is also a husband, father of three boys, and a member of Forest Hills Covenant Church in Boston, MA. He loves making things out of wood, reading, and taking his sons on daily "adventures" to explore nature. Resources mentioned in this episode: The Land of Wholeness, by Russell Zahniser (blog)Come As You Are, by Emily Nagoski (book)Sheila Wray Gregoire (author and researcher)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How Music Transforms Sexual Temptation

16 min

Have you ever been amazed by the power of music? In this episode, you'll learn five ways music can support you in overcoming sexual temptation—including one resource that turns anyone into a songwriter.   Songs mentioned on this episode: The Lord Will Fight For You - https://youtu.be/TE_OlAxU_uc?si=iaKCsPNe0m3g3q-oConfession of Sin (low-quality recording) - https://suno.com/s/EJ0hCbjWjLn0Zr9RConfession of Sin (SUNO version) - https://suno.com/s/shdp2PL5TNKoNBCiHis Beloved Son - https://suno.com/s/hHAtdx9N961mvh9aThe Lord Will Fight For You Song Credits: words and music by Drew Boa produced and arranged by Steven Dougherty mixing and mastering by Danny Stimac Steven Dougherty - lead vocals, BGV’s, piano, synthesizer, & drum programming Danny Stimac - electric guitar, additional percussion Mike Shelton - bass guitar Burton Gestner - acoustic guitar Shawn Manley - lead vocals T.J. Tolosa - lead vocals Husband Material Men’s Chorus: Drew Boa Chris Furr Mike Chapman John Depew Keith Martin Jay Sevilla James Kaiser Patrick Allen Arlen Wilcock Steven Dougherty Shawn Manley T.J. Tolosa Dustin Lang Lyndon Dueck Dan Carlson Share the songs you love in the Husband Material Community! husbandmaterial.com/community Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Help Teens Outgrow Porn (with Blake Brinkman)

40 min

How can we help teens start outgrowing porn and unwanted sexual behavior? Licensed counselor Blake Brinkman believes teens are NOT too young, too immature, or too unwilling to start healing. In this episode, you'll hear Blake's overview of the teen brain, why recovery must start "bottom-up" with safety rather than "top-down" with rules, how (not) to respond to teens struggling with porn, and why apologizing after mistakes creates deeper trust than attempting to parent perfectly. Blake Brinkman is a mental health counselor, recovery coach, and co-host of the new podcast Start Younger: Outgrow Porn At Any Age.  Blake is the founder of Redefine Student Recovery, where he works with teens and families through one-on-one coaching, recovery groups, and parent guidance. He specializes in helping adolescents understand the emotional and relational roots of addictive behavior and develop healthier beliefs, relationships, and patterns for lasting change, integrating recovery principles, family systems insight, and faith-based care in a developmentally appropriate, shame-free way. Blake is also the author of Alliance Groups: Empowering Student Recovery. He lives in New York City and enjoys exploring the city and world with his wife, Katherine. Listen to the Start Younger Podcast at startyoungerpodcast.com, co-hosted by Blake Brinkman, Drew Boa, and Dr. Doug Carpenter. New episodes come out on Thursdays every two weeks. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Restored 2 More: How Couples Heal Together (with Clinton and Charity Muñoz)

48 min

What if couples devastated by sexual betrayal could heal together instead of separately? Clinton and Charity Muñoz expose a massive gap in traditional porn recovery's focus on sexual addiction for husbands and betrayal trauma for wives that leaves couples without guidance on how to actually restore their relationship in community.  In this episode, you'll hear: The power of hearing other spouses' storiesHealthy boundaries to keep communication safeWhy you need to turn on your brain's "relational circuits"What it looks like to process your pain with JesusHow post-traumatic growth is a picture of the gospelClinton and Charity Muñoz are the founders of Restored 2 More, a Christ-centered nonprofit ministry helping couples heal after betrayal, pornography/sexual addiction, and broken trust. After walking through their own story of betrayal, trauma, repentance, recovery, and restoration, they felt called to create a safe and hope-filled pathway for other couples who are longing for healing. Through their podcast, courses, coaching, resources, and ambassador program, Clinton and Charity equip couples, churches, and leaders with practical tools to restore safety, rebuild trust, process pain with Jesus, and move toward deeper connection. Their heart is to see marriages not simply survive betrayal, but become restored to more. Learn more at restored2more.com Take The Bridge Back To Us 8-Week Course here: https://restored2more.thinkific.com/products/courses/thebridgebacktous Find additional Restored 2 More resources here: https://restored2more.com/resources/ Listen to the Restored 2 More podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/restored-2-more/id1503954507 Connect with Restored 2 More on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/restored2more/ Friends, a marriage marked by betrayal doesn't have to settle for "not divorced." It can become something better than either spouse imagined! Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcas...

Processing A Sexual Fantasy Through Inner Child Work: HMA Coaching Example

34 min

In this vulnerable demo, Jordan Castille guides Jason Mellard in processing a sexual fantasy through inner child work. As Jason listens to his body, he travels back to a pivotal memory of being violated and rejected by his father. With Jordan’s help, Jason offers love to "Little Jason” and leads him from a place of powerlessness to a place of grace, space, and unconditional belonging with Jesus. ***Trigger Warning*** The description of a sexual fantasy at the start of this episode may be triggering for some listeners. Even though no graphic details are shared, please use discernment. If you feel triggered, stop listening or skip to another section. This episode is an example of Inner Child Thursday, one of the 12 weekly HMA Coaching Calls. Learn more and join HMA at joinHMA.com Jordan Castille is the founder of Castille Coaching, where he helps men break free from pornography and live a life of purpose. He is a Board Certified Christian Counselor, Certified Clinical Sex Addiction Specialist, APSATS CPC Certified Partner Coach, and Certified Husband Material Coach. Jordan leads a weekly HMA Coaching Call, Inner Child Thursday, on Thursday mornings. Jason Mellard is the founder of Own Your Identity, where he empowers men experiencing unwanted same-sex attraction to live the life they truly desire. Jason is a Certified High Performance Coach and Certified Husband Material Coach. Jason leads a weekly HMA Coaching Call, Vision Sunday, on Sunday nights. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Is Your Accountability Group Healing or Harmful?

18 min

"Accountability" is one of the most controversial topics in porn recovery. Some men find it healing; some men find it harmful. What's the difference between healthy and unhealthy accountability? Traditional accountability groups often get hijacked by fear, control, and shame—unintentionally incentivizing secrecy and acting like a prison rather than a path to freedom. In this episode, Drew Boa argues that the secret to lasting transformation isn't a shift in theology or psychology, but a shift in posture. He introduces the concept of Attunement Groups—a curious, compassionate approach focused on meeting core attachment needs so you can truly outgrow porn.  Want to learn more about attunement? Listen to this 30-minute deep dive episode: Attunement: The Key To Connection Interested in being part of an attunement group? Join a Husband Material Academy small group (triad) when you enroll at joinHMA.com. Looking for a small group led by a professional coach? Apply to join a private Husband Material group at husbandmaterial.com/group Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Heal Inner Conflict: The Table Exercise

17 min

Have you ever felt like there is a war raging inside of you between conflicting feelings or desires? If so, this episode will empower you to lead your thoughts, emotions, and sexual attractions with compassion rather than condemnation through an exercise called "the table." You'll learn why the table—not just the cross—is the ultimate symbol of grace, belonging, and transformation. Grounded in both Christian theology and Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, this exercise shifts your internal posture from hostility to hospitality. It can be life-changing! Keep in mind that most of this episode is a step-by-step guided audio meditation. So find a quiet, comfortable space to sit back, slow down, and welcome all parts of yourself into the healing presence of Jesus. IFS Resources mentioned in this episode: Boundaries For Your Soul: How To Turn Your Overwhelming Thoughts And Feelings Into Your Greatest Allies by Alison Cook and Kimberly MillerMove Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of You by Jenna RiemersmaAltogether You: Experiencing Personal and Spiritual Transformation with Internal Family Systems Therapy by Jenna RiemersmaSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

God's Heart For Abuse Survivors (with Dr. Steve Tracy)

43 min

What does the Bible say about abuse? According to Dr. Steve Tracy, Scripture talks about abuse hundreds if not thousands of times. In this profound episode, you'll get a clear definition of abuse, how God responds to it, why all sin is not the same in its consequences, and how to guard against toxic misinterpretations of God's word. Dr. Steve Tracy is the president and international director of Mending the Soul Ministries. Steve and his wife Celestia founded Mending the Soul in 2003 to create best practice Christian resources for understanding and responding to abuse. Steve earned his PhD in Biblical Studies from the University of Sheffield in England and taught theology and ethics at Phoenix Seminary for 30 years. Before coming on staff with MTS, Steve pastored for fifteen years in three different churches. Steve is the author of numerous books and journal articles on abuse, marriage, and healing. Learn more at mendingthesoul.org Buy Steve's books: To Heal Or Harm: Scripture's Use as Poison or Medicine for Abuse SurvivorsMending The Soul: Understanding and Healing Abuse (with Celestia Tracy)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Sexual Attraction Fluidity Exploration (with Andrew Rodriguez)

48 min

What is sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy (SAFE-T)? Licensed professional counselor Andrew Rodriguez shares the history behind the sexual orientation paradigm and offers a powerful message of hope for men seeking alignment between their attractions and their values. You'll learn how Reintegrative Therapy uses modern attachment theory and trauma reprocessing to create significant shifts in unwanted sexual feelings and behaviors. Andrew also opens up about his personal story of childhood loneliness, performance-based faith, and finding his true identity in Christ.  Andrew Rodriguez, LPC, has a passion for helping people discover and live out their true identities. He is the owner of Integrity Christian Counseling. He specializes in SAFE-T (sexual attraction fluidity exploration in therapy), working with individuals with unwanted same-sex attraction, sexual addiction, and fetishes. Andrew is certified in Reintegrative Therapy and serves as the Training Facilitator for the Reintegrative Therapy Association. He's also a board member of The Alliance for Therapeutic Choice & Scientific Integrity, a counselor affiliate with Restored Hope Network, and he's partnered with Desert Stream Ministries and ReStory Ministries. Andrew has been married to his wife, Jessica, since 2007, and they live in Pottstown, PA. Check out Andrew's YouTube channel, PsychoBible, where he discusses psychology, theology, and sexuality through a Christian counseling lens at youtube.com/psychobible  Learn more about the 2026 Alliance For Therapeutic Choice & Scientific Integrity Online Training Conference here. If you are a professional therapist, sign up for notifications about the next opportunity to be trained by Andrew in Reintegrative Therapy here. Contact Andrew here. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4...

How Movies Minimize Betrayal

12 min

Many movies minimize, justify, or even celebrate sexual betrayal. In this episode, you’ll discover 5 popular films that communicate toxic messages about deception and infidelity.  Related episodes for further listening: How To Stop Hiding And LyingHow To Tell Her About The Porn: Full DisclosureWhen A Wife Discovers Her Husband’s PornHow Women Heal From Sexual Betrayal TraumaHealing For Sexually Betrayed MenSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Unhealthy Attachment vs. Healthy Brotherhood

8 min

Learn 8 differences between unhealthy attachment and healthy brotherhood:  How it beginsCore motivationEmotional toneBoundariesIdentity and inner stabilitySexual attraction dynamicsConflict and tensionGrowth trajectoryLonging for healthy brotherhood? Register for the next Husband Material Retreat at husbandmaterial.com/retreat Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Fourteen Ways To Live Like A Beloved Son

22 min

"You are God's beloved son. In you He is well-pleased!" This is a powerful truth for outgrowing porn. But while that identity sounds beautiful, it often leaves us asking: What do I actually do with that? What does it look like to live like a beloved son in everyday life?  This episode breaks down 14 practical, redemptive ways to step out of a performance-driven "slave" mindset and into the freedom of true sonship. If you're ready to heal the boy to free the man, this episode is your roadmap: PLAYRESTRISKASKSHAREFEELLOVEHUGGIVERECEIVEPRAYTRUSTWAITBE Resources mentioned in this episode: Why We Sexualize Emotions And How To Desexualize ThemAppropriate Touch Between MenThe Image Of God In YouSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Meet Your Unmet Needs (with Shawn Bonneteau)

31 min

What is your heart hungry for? How  can you satisfy that hunger in a healthy way? Shawn Bonneteau unpacks how our thoughts and actions flow from the heart, a 5-second tool that can interrupt unwanted behavior, and how Christ transforms us without shame.  Shawn Bonneteau is a Christian sexual recovery coach who has spent 14 years inside addiction and 8 years guiding men out of it for a total of over 3,000 sessions. Shawn is the founder of Secret Habit, where he guides Christian men to break free from pornography and destructive sexual habits so they can live with integrity, confidence and real freedom. Learn more at secrethabit.ca Start your clarity quiz:  secrethabit.com/quiz Book a call with Shawn: secrethabit.com/call Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Try Softer, Not Harder (with Aundi Kolber)

40 min

Instead of trying harder, what would it look like to try softer? Author and counselor Aundi Kolber guides us into compassionate attention so that we can reconnect with our bodies, heal from trauma, and outgrow porn. You'll also hear how God relates to us in the middle of our mess  with in-process miracles along the way. Aundi Kolber is a licensed professional counselor (MA, LPC) and bestselling author of the critically acclaimed "Try Softer" as well as "Strong like Water." She has received additional training in her specialization of trauma-and body-centered therapies and is passionate about the integration of faith and psychology. As a survivor of trauma, Aundi brings hard-won knowledge about the work of change, the power of redemption, and the beauty of experiencing God with us in our pain. Learn more at aundikolber.com Buy Aundi's books: Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode—and into a Life of Connection and JoyStrong like Water: Finding the Freedom, Safety, and Compassion to Move through Hard Things—and Experience True FlourishingTake What You Need: Soft Words for Hard DaysSend us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Dear Porn: A Breakup Letter

18 min

Hear a vulnerable, powerful breakup letter written to pornography. If this resonates with you, write your own “dear porn” breakup letter and share it in the Husband Material Community, which you can join at husbandmaterial.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Promised Land Sexuality (Sermon on Deuteronomy 11:10-12)

34 min

Discover the differences between "Egypt Sexuality" and "Promised Land Sexuality" based on insights from Deuteronomy 11:10-12. You'll be challenged to trust God with your life instead of trying to control your life.  This sermon was originally preached on Sunday, April 26, 2026 at the Husband Material Spring Retreat in Georgia. See upcoming retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat Previous sermons from HM Retreats: You Are Not Too Much (Mark 6:30-56)Excluded & Emasculated (Acts 8:26-40)David's Sexual Story (2 Samuel 11-12)The Beauty Of Brotherhood (Psalm 133)How Jesus Reverses The Curse (John 21)Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Outgrow Porn Through IFS (with Patrick Cagle)

36 min

Have you ever felt curious or confused about IFS (Internal Family Systems) and how it can help you outgrow porn? Patrick Cagle offers the perfect introduction: the 3 types of parts within you, the 9 Cs of your authentic self, and the highly practical 6 Fs to connect with a part of you that feels activated, triggered, or sexually tempted. Patrick Cagle is an IFS Level 2–trained therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) candidate, and a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP). Based in Alabama, he serves as an associate-level counselor devoted to helping individuals find freedom from unwanted sexual behaviors and supporting partners healing from betrayal trauma. With compassion, clarity, and a deep respect for each client’s inner world, Patrick integrates Internal Family Systems (IFS) to uncover and heal the underlying wounds that drive addiction. His approach helps clients move beyond shame, restore connection with their authentic self, and experience lasting recovery and transformation. Connect with Patrick at (334) 602-4112. Check out Patrick's Psychology Today Profile here. Join Patrick's drop-in discussion group: "Men's Internal Family Systems & Sexual Integrity" on Tuesdays at 10:00 AM Pacific Time here. Mentioned in this episode: The 9 C's of IFS (credit to Cece Sykes)The 6 F's of IFS by Dr. Richard SchwartzThe SIBAM Model by Dr. Peter Levine Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Stop Fighting Yourself (with Jenna Riemersma)

45 min

Are you tired of fighting a battle against yourself? Jenna Riemersma offers a remarkably powerful path to healing through the "Move Toward" approach, her simplified version of IFS (Internal Family Systems). You'll learn a practical three-step tool to transform unwanted behavior and outgrow porn through curiosity and compassion.  Jenna Riemersma, LPC, is a leading authority in integrating Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with Compulsive Sexual Behavior Disorder (CSBD) and betrayal trauma treatment. As a Certified IFS Therapist, IFS Clinical Consultant, IITAP teaching faculty, and CSAT Supervisor, she brings over a decade of specialized expertise to this critical therapeutic intersection. Jenna is also the developer of the innovative "Move Toward" IFS shorthand tool—a practical resource that helps therapists and clients efficiently access IFS parts work. Learn more at movetoward.com Buy Jenna's new book: Move Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of YouJenna is also the author of: Altogether You: Experiencing Personal and Spiritual Transformation with Internal Family Systems TherapyIFS Integration: A Comprehensive Guide to Applying Internal Family Systems Across Modalities, Populations, and Clinical PresentationsMore resources by Jenna: Free Guided MeditationsFree Guided VideosFree PDF WorksheetsOnline Video CurriculumConnect with Jenna at jennariemersma.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Why Does Freedom From Porn Feel Impossible?

10 min

Learn the real reason why freedom from porn feels impossible with insights from one of my favorite movies, The Shawshank Redemption.  “Your brain doesn’t want new things. It wants old things that it already knows how to survive.” —Chase Hughes Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Be A Great Husband & Father (with Dr. Joshua Straub)

43 min

How can I revive the soul of my family? Whether you're a father, a husband, or a man preparing for those roles, listen to this. Dr. Joshua Straub presents a powerful picture of what it looks like to become emotionally safe, build intimacy with your spouse, enter your child's world, and protect your family in the spiritual realm. Joshua Straub is most renowned for his role as a husband and dad. A recovering human, he’s passionate about the ongoing journey of growth through coaching, community, and fitness. Alongside his wife, Christi, he leads Famous at Home, equipping leaders and organizations in emotional intelligence and healthy family systems. Josh is a speaker, author of seven books, marriage and relational intelligence coach, and podcast cohost. He’s had the privilege of coaching executives, entrepreneurs, entertainers, professional athletes, and nonprofit leaders, as well as serving military families across the country. At home, Josh and Christi are raising their three kids on a small homestead outside Nashville, TN, where life is full of family, faith, and a lot of fun. Learn more at joshuastraub.com Buy Joshua's book: Famous at Home: 7 Decisions to Put Your Family Center Stage in a World Competing for Your Time, Attention, and Identity Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Healing For Sexually Betrayed Men (with Adam Nisenson)

31 min

How does being sexually betrayed affect men? Adam Nisenson explains the phenomenon of masculine betrayal trauma and what healing looks like. Adam Nisenson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT). He is known as The Betrayal Shrink, a pioneering voice in men’s mental health, and the first professional to define and name the phenomenon of Masculine Betrayal Trauma. Drawing from his own lived experience after his former spouse’s affair with her business partner over 12 years ago, Adam brings both personal understanding and clinical depth to every session, every book, and every word he shares. Resources by Adam Nisenson: A Man’s Guide to Partner Betrayal (book)A Man’s Guide to Trust After Partner Betrayal (clinical workbook)No Man’s Land (guided journal)Listen to Adam's podcast,Men Get Cheated On Too! where he breaks the silence around male betrayal trauma and gives men a voice, language, and a path forward in a society that too often leaves them behind. His work blends depth psychology, trauma-informed care, emotional accountability, and masculine healing frameworks to help men confront betrayal without shame and emerge stronger than they were before. Learn more about masculine betrayal trauma and connect with Adam at betrayalshrink.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Curiosity, Childlike Wonder, and Awe (with Jason Mellard)

27 min

What if the very traits that got you hooked on porn—curiosity, childlike wonder, and awe—are actually keys to your freedom? As Jason Mellard explains, these qualities aren't bad; they are simply waiting to be reclaimed and redeemed. You'll learn about observation vs. obsession, building with vision vs. escaping into fantasy, and appreciating beauty vs. idolizing it... Bonus: Stay tuned for a spontaneous musical moment where Jason inspires Drew to burst into song—belting out lyrics from The Greatest Showman and sharing how it shaped his imagination for Husband Material. Jason Mellard is the founder of Own Your Identity, where he empowers men experiencing unwanted same-sex attraction to live the life they truly desire. Jason is a Certified High Performance Coach and Certified Husband Material Coach. He has experienced sexual abuse, same-sex attraction, and freedom from porn. Jason is committed to helping men live beyond their unwanted attractions and negative habits into a life of purpose and possibility through the power of Christ and for the glory of God. Listen to Jason's podcast, Own Your Identity, where he provides practical tools to bring clarity and hope to men navigating unwanted same-sex attraction. Jason is also the creator of SSAquiz.com. Take the quiz to discover how much same-sex attraction is impacting your life. Learn more about Jason at ownyouridentitynow.com. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Glimmers: The Opposite Of Triggers

8 min

What exactly is a glimmer? Why do glimmers matter for outgrowing porn? Learn 3 ways to get the most out of your glimmers—maximizing moments of joy, peace, and connection.  Related episodes: Porn and Polyvagal Theory (with John Kilmer) Play, Awe, & Porn Addiction: A Polyvagal Perspective Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Run Toward The Roar (with Davey Blackburn)

40 min

Where is God when we suffer? How does grief intensify sexual temptation? Why do we need to "run toward the roar" of triggers and traumas instead of avoiding them?  Hear Davey Blackburn tell the heartbreaking story of how his wife of 7 years was murdered in their home during a break-in, leaving him as a single father to their 15-month-old son. Davey also describes how God has begun to write a beautiful redemption story of healing, forgiveness, and purpose where "nothing is wasted." Davey Blackburn (and his wife Kristi) founded Nothing is Wasted Ministries to help people partner with God to take back their story. Learn more at nothingiswasted.com Start here: nothingiswasted.com/starthere Buy Davey's book: Nothing Is Wasted: A True Story of Hope, Forgiveness, and Finding Purpose in Pain.  Listen to Davey's podcast: nothingiswasted.com/podcast Are you a widower? Check out refugewidowers.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Why Your Desires Matter (with Jay Stringer)

1 hr 3 min

What if the desires you've been suppressing are not bad, but simply underdeveloped? In this episode, Jay Stringer explores five core longings that drive us—and why we need to welcome them rather than try to conquer them or shut them down. You'll hear how desire is shaped by childhood experiences, pornography, and other forces—as well as how desire can be reshaped and resurrected. Jay Stringer is a licensed mental health counselor, researcher, and speaker who helps people uncover the unexpected meaning hidden in life’s hardest challenges. He is the award-winning author of Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing and lives in New York City with his wife, Heather, and their two children. Learn more at jay-stringer.com Buy Jay's new book: Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How We Love, Heal, and Grow Guest interviews do not constitute an endorsement. We encourage discernment—grab what's good, drop the rest. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Take A Redemptive Risk (LIVE)

32 min

What is redemptive risk? Why is it essential for healing and outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll learn why and how to embrace redemptive risk, the difference between dirty pain and clean pain, and three steps to consider as you discern your next redemptive risk: Start with "why"Count the costOwn your strengthWhat redemptive risk(s) are you currently taking? Let us know in the Husband Material Community! Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Why Men Need Men (with Tom Zuniga)

30 min

Men need men. In this episode, Tom Zuniga champions the value of brotherhood and "chosen family"—especially in a culture where romantic marriage seems like the only place where intimacy is possible. Tom shares his story of growing up feeling lonely and different, experiencing same-sex attraction, and discovering the beauty of following Jesus in community with other men. Tom Zuniga is the Director of Your Other Brothers, a community where Christian men are navigating matters of faith, sexuality, and masculinity. Together. Check out their blogs and podcasts, or explore their retreats and other community offerings at yourotherbrothers.org Learn more about the overarching nonprofit ministry of Your Other Family at yourotherfamily.org, as well as their new women’s community of Your Other Sisters at yourothersisters.org Hear Tom Zuniga interview Drew Boa at https://yourotherbrothers.org/convocast/yob-convocast-104-tom-amp-drew-boa-outgrow-porn-examine-fetishes-and-do-inner-child-work Connect with Tom at thomasmarkz.com Disclaimer: Tom and Your Other Family offer valuable perspectives and wonderful resources, and we're honored to introduce them to you. As with any content, we encourage you to take what helps you grow and leave the rest behind. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

True Freedom From Porn (with Sathiya Sam)

30 min

In this episode, longtime friend of the podcast and author Sathiya Sam shares why porn recovery can literally save lives, what true freedom looks like (eternal, internal, and external) and practical advice on how to find purpose beyond porn. Sathiya Sam, founder of Deep Clean Coaching, helps men overcome pornography addiction, inspired by his own 15-year journey. Author of The Last Relapse and host of The Man Within, he has guided thousands of men to freedom. Learn more at sathiyasam.com To celebrate 10 years of freedom from porn and 1 million podcast downloads, Sathiya is hosting a giveaway. Enter here: deepcleancoaching.com/giveaway "You don't set people free just so they can say they're free; you set people free so they can fly." —Sathiya Sam Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How To Flop Without Relapsing

17 min

Do you know what it's like to feel numb, drained, and disconnected? This is the most common precursor to watching porn: the "flop" reaction. In this episode, you'll learn what the flop reaction is, why it's not necessarily bad, and three ways to navigate low-energy moments without crashing into a relapse.  Strategy #1: Flop with a purpose Strategy #2: Flop with a friend Strategy #3: Flop with your body Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Faithful Fitness (with Alex VanHouten)

27 min

How does physical fitness support sexual and spiritual health? In this episode, Alex VanHouten describes what it looks like to faithfully care for your body. You'll learn about the twin pitfalls of pride/envy and gluttony/sloth, how working out can help you process emotions and sexual urges, and what fitness is ultimately about: reclaiming the territory of your body for the kingdom of God. Alex VanHouten is an exercise scientist, health coach, and the founder of Faithful Fitness. With over 20 years of experience in fitness coaching, he has empowered individuals to transform their health through intelligent, science-based training, all while grounding his approach in the hope of the gospel. As the host of the Faithful Fitness Podcast and leader of the Faithful Fitness community, Coach Alex provides valuable tools to help people steward their bodies well for God’s glory. Learn more at faithfulfitness.co Buy Alex's new book: Faithful Fitness: A 40-Day Devotional for Christian Health and Stewardship Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

In The Low: Navigating Depression (with Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson)

37 min

If you're in a season of depression, darkness, or difficulty, please listen to this episode. Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson offer deep wisdom on how to welcome all that is within you (yes, even that). This interview is punctuated by powerful poems and prayers for whatever "low" you might be going through. Justin McRoberts is the author of 8 books, including In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons. He lives in Martinez, CA and talks with his mom every day. Connect with Justin at justinmcroberts.com or on Instagram @justinmcroberts. Scott Erickson is an artist, author, and performance speaker creating a visual vocabulary for the spiritual journey. Connect with Scott at scottericksonart.com or on Instagram @scottthepainter. Buy Justin and Scott's new book: In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

All About HMA Triads (with Rich Savoy)

28 min

What are HMA Triads? What makes them different from accountability groups? Why is joining a small group essential for outgrowing porn? Rich Savoy explains everything you need to know about HMA Triads, what makes them different than porn accountability groups, and why you should consider joining one. Join HMA by January 18, 2026 at joinHMA.com. Rich Savoy is HMA's Director Of Small Groups. He is also a board member of Husband Material Ministries and an international speaker on emotional intelligence with Global Leadership Partners. Contact Rich inside the Husband Material Community. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How God Designed Your Brain To Heal Itself

1 hr 19 min

God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman. This episode was recorded at the 2026 Porn Free Man Conference sponsored by Husband Material Academy (HMA). Join HMA now at joinHMA.com Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Experience Healing Through Brainspotting (with Dr. David Grand)

38 min

What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction. David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rapid and Effective Change and the co-author of This is Your Brain on Sports. Dr. Grand has been widely featured in the media, including The New York Times, NBC National News, The Discovery Channel, CNN, MSNBC, Sports Illustrated, and Sirius Radio.  Curious about Brainspotting? Read the book by David GrandFind a Brainspotter near you on the international directoryWork with Mike Chapman, Dr. Doug Carpenter, or Drew Boa (who are all Brainspotting Practitioners and Certified Husband Material Coaches).Join HMA to witness the power of Brainspotting (and maybe even try it out yourself) at Fantasy Fridays.Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

K-Pop Demon Hunters: A Story Of Hiding And Healing

1 hr 39 min

What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy! Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology and adventure-based experiential learning, and has been a participant and collaborator with Husband Material since 2023. K-Pop Demon Hunters is available on Netflix. We recommend watching the "Sing-along" version. Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

When A Leader Relapses (with Nate Larkin)

38 min

In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth. Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com Buy Nate's book: Samson and the Pirate Monks: Calling Men To Authentic Brotherhood Send us Fan Mail Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

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